Not the case with Wall-E. Parts of it sure but there are too many holes to lump Pixar's latest under that. Previous films though, certainly.Quote from his personnal site: One or more lovable protagonists have existed for some time in a stable but fundamentally flawed routine, which is shaken up by the introduction of a foreign entity, usually another character, around whom attitudes are initially hostile. Attempts to deal with this character eventually lead to the protagonist(s) discovering a new, unfamiliar world, and in doing so discover the nature of the fundamental flaw in their routine. Villains are usually introduced or only become truly villainous from around the mid-point or quite late into the film. Along the way the heroes enlist the help of various lesser characters with clearly definable quirks and at one point reluctantly enter a high-speed chase. The villain is generally finally defeated with surprising ease, and everything concludes in an emotionally manipulative ending in which routine is restored with the fundamental flaw excised.
I'm not directing rage, I'm just nicked off at the fact that I didn't qualify due to a technicality.Spartan Bannana post=326.71895.741402 said:Nice review Krunk, and don't aim your rage at me, had we really been tied like Nil thought we were, you would have won in the tie-breaker vote by one, I just got more votes in the beginning and you got more in the end.
I told you most people would disagree.Maet post=326.71895.741978 said:I laughed a lot when Wall-E recharged. I love this movie, and was not disappointed.
I disagree that the film is too short, and your aside that movies in general are becoming shorter and shorter. I think Wall-E was the perfect length as opposed to last year's Ratatouille that, as brilliant as it was, dragged a bit in the end. I don't see why movies need to run long or be cut short to meet the 100 minute average. A good movie doesn't waste a scene, whether it's 20 scenes or 200.
Now to rate the Pixar films (from favourite to least favourite) because I'm just such a big Pixar nut:
Monsters Inc.
The Incredibles
Wall E
Toy Story
Ratatouille
Finding Nemo
Cars
A Bug's Life
Toy Story 2
Also, as excellent as Presto was, For The Birds is still my favourite short (no surprises there).
Artistically I understand wanting to stick with the darker ending, but realistically, that probably would have ruined my entire week.Whilst going into this film, I knew it was a marketed as a kid's film, and getting my hopes up about something completely left field was abosolutely absurd of an idea, but this film had genuinely made me identify and empathise with the characters, and the ending of the film could have absolutely blown my socks of if it had gone in the darker direction. (Those who have seen it will know what I'm on about)
Actually, I agree entirely. However, I can only wonder: Can Pixar do something so bold?famousninja post=326.71895.749077 said:First off: Excellent review Lord Krunk. Matched my feelings exactly.
But I had one beef with this film, and it's something that I cant really complain about.
Whilst going into this film, I knew it was a marketed as a kid's film, and getting my hopes up about something completely left field was abosolutely absurd of an idea, but this film had genuinely made me identify and empathise with the characters, and the ending of the film could have absolutely blown my socks of if it had gone in the darker direction. (Those who have seen it will know what I'm on about)
To toy with the idea of identity and personality so well (which Pixar should be mightly proud of, mainly because most people I meet instantly think I'm a jaded misanthrope with nothing better to do than nitpick every piece of modern culture) the inevitable 'kid friendly' end was one of the most unsatifying things I've ever witnessed, much like whenever I hit the town insearch of female company.
Without giving too much away, if Pixar had of left the kiddies crying over their beloved hero, it would have filled my heart with glee, because
A) It would show that Pixar have the balls to do something other than kid's films;
and
B) It felt like the natural way to do things.
Despite this, WALL-E will probably end up on my list of top films of 2008, due to the fact that I felt more emotion for a character with a six word vocabulary than most serious hollywood films that are released.
--ninja
Heck even with the happy ending it ruined my next day! I seriously woke up, thought of WALL-E, and started crying for no reason(I still can't think of why). In all this is my favorite film, and if they made a tv series or sequel I would cry gleefully even though I know continuation is the death of everything(except Back to the Future).TaboriHK post=326.71895.749434 said:Artistically I understand wanting to stick with the darker ending, but realistically, that probably would have ruined my entire week.Whilst going into this film, I knew it was a marketed as a kid's film, and getting my hopes up about something completely left field was abosolutely absurd of an idea, but this film had genuinely made me identify and empathise with the characters, and the ending of the film could have absolutely blown my socks of if it had gone in the darker direction. (Those who have seen it will know what I'm on about)
I think it's rather bold that they didn't do it. Pixar isn't exactly a stranger to the more mature hooks to reel in an older audience, as evidenced by Linguini getting hammered with his boss after work in Ratatouille, or the mild genocide within the first five minutes of Finding Nemo. The Incredibles was especially edgy, what with all the curvy skin tight suits and balls out action sequences.Lord Krunk post=326.71895.750834 said:Actually, I agree entirely. However, I can only wonder: Can Pixar do something so bold?