Lords of the Fallen Review - The Fake Dark Souls Starts Here
An inferior Dark Souls, but surprisingly fun in spite of itself.
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An inferior Dark Souls, but surprisingly fun in spite of itself.
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Dark Souls 2.Ragsnstitches said:So do I get this or Dark Souls 2? It looks fun for what it is, but not 49.99 worth of fun.
Dark Souls 2, definitely. It gets a lot of flak for not being as good as Dark Souls 1, but the gameplay has really been tuned to give you a challenge and a sense of wonder even if you normally blaze through this type of game. (Just withholding decent shields and spells from the player for the opening hours is enough to really make you think on your feet.)Ragsnstitches said:So do I get this or Dark Souls 2? It looks fun for what it is, but not 49.99 worth of fun.
I think it depends on what you want in a game. I hated Origins and quit about 2/3 of the way through. I was bored to tears. The story and depiction of the Joker, however, I thought were superior to both Asylum and City, but the general fight mechanics were a step back. The boss battles were better, though, I agree. The city was ho-hum, more of the same.Quorothorn said:I recently have been playing Arkham Origins and actually quite enjoying it, even if AT LEAST half of what makes it good was just directly brought over from Asylum/City. However, even though the writing is quite poor in places, what makes it still worthwhile to me (rather than just playing City again) is in large part the story, plus a few of the gameplay additions (Remote Claw, new enemy varieties, actually good boss fights--don't underestimate that last one, IMO the boss fights in Asylum were uniformly awful and there was only one good boss in City, whereas there's at least three good bosses in Origins). With that in mind, I suppose what I'm wondering is, with what sounds like a bare bones 'story', would there really be any reason for me to play *this* game rather than just play Dark Souls for the seventh-plus time?
Indeed, by which I'm sure you mean you're left wondering about how attacks that clearly weren't close to hitting you still did damage. Phantom range sure is some good "tuning" to provide a sense of "I wonder wtf just happened." >.>Robyrt said:Dark Souls 2, definitely. It gets a lot of flak for not being as good as Dark Souls 1, but the gameplay has really been tuned to give you a challenge and a sense of wonderRagsnstitches said:So do I get this or Dark Souls 2? It looks fun for what it is, but not 49.99 worth of fun.
Smelter Demon. A few normal humanoid mobs have some bugs in their animation that can cause them to hit you.Shjade said:Indeed, by which I'm sure you mean you're left wondering about how attacks that clearly weren't close to hitting you still did damage. Phantom range sure is some good "tuning" to provide a sense of "I wonder wtf just happened." >.>Robyrt said:Dark Souls 2, definitely. It gets a lot of flak for not being as good as Dark Souls 1, but the gameplay has really been tuned to give you a challenge and a sense of wonderRagsnstitches said:So do I get this or Dark Souls 2? It looks fun for what it is, but not 49.99 worth of fun.
By that, he means, most of the good spells are held back for way too long, and you won't have a collection of spells unless you happen to find a optional vendor, depending on what type of magic you choose.Robyrt said:Dark Souls 2, definitely. It gets a lot of flak for not being as good as Dark Souls 1, but the gameplay has really been tuned to give you a challenge and a sense of wonder even if you normally blaze through this type of game. (Just withholding decent shields and spells from the player for the opening hours is enough to really make you think on your feet.)Ragsnstitches said:So do I get this or Dark Souls 2? It looks fun for what it is, but not 49.99 worth of fun.
Thanks for the suggestion. Pity to hear that Witcher 2 is not letting you in, so to speak--I remember that feeling. I'll definitely wait and see, and go back to that Wanderer no-level-up run in the meantime. x)Alarien said:I think it depends on what you want in a game. I hated Origins and quit about 2/3 of the way through. I was bored to tears. The story and depiction of the Joker, however, I thought were superior to both Asylum and City, but the general fight mechanics were a step back. The boss battles were better, though, I agree. The city was ho-hum, more of the same.Quorothorn said:I recently have been playing Arkham Origins and actually quite enjoying it, even if AT LEAST half of what makes it good was just directly brought over from Asylum/City. However, even though the writing is quite poor in places, what makes it still worthwhile to me (rather than just playing City again) is in large part the story, plus a few of the gameplay additions (Remote Claw, new enemy varieties, actually good boss fights--don't underestimate that last one, IMO the boss fights in Asylum were uniformly awful and there was only one good boss in City, whereas there's at least three good bosses in Origins). With that in mind, I suppose what I'm wondering is, with what sounds like a bare bones 'story', would there really be any reason for me to play *this* game rather than just play Dark Souls for the seventh-plus time?
If you're looking for a deeper story than Dark Souls 2, I don't think you're going to find it in LOTF. It's more in your face than a Souls game, but with less depth, at least so far as I can tell. That said, the gameplay is pretty solid and enjoyable.
If you're that much on the fence about it, I'd suggest waiting until a Steam sale. It rarely is worth buying a game at release unless it's something you know you'll like. Better to wait a few months and pay 2/3 or 1/2 the price on Steam.
Myself, I bought it because I was looking for some decently fun Souls-esque gameplay and to get the bad taste that is The Witcher 2 out of my mouth (I'm really really trying very hard to like that game, but can't.).
What withholding of decent shield ? The shield the merchant sell are good enough, especially the tower shield, due to been half the weight of other shield in that category and tower shield that are worth the extra weight don't show up until late game (unless you Fashion Soul). But I'm part of the those that think peoples overvalue 100% melee shield.Robyrt said:Dark Souls 2, definitely. It gets a lot of flak for not being as good as Dark Souls 1, but the gameplay has really been tuned to give you a challenge and a sense of wonder even if you normally blaze through this type of game. (Just withholding decent shields and spells from the player for the opening hours is enough to really make you think on your feet.)Ragsnstitches said:So do I get this or Dark Souls 2? It looks fun for what it is, but not 49.99 worth of fun.