Los Angeles Manhunt

[TaboriHK]

He's not going postal.. I mean, yeah he sort of is, but if you read his manifesto he's got a shit ton of legit complaints against the LAPD for their corruption and racism.

He's not a pyschopath in the traditional sense.

Yes he is. Complaints aside, you don't kill family members that had exactly zero to do with corruption. He's not a reasonable guy.

Meanwhile the LAPD are firing on innocent civilians in an attempt to kill him.

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2013/02/ex-cop-manhunt-newspaper-delivery-women-shot.html

Who's the bigger pyschopath? The pyschopath or the guys that are suppose to catch the pyschopath?

The bigger psychopath is the one who said, "I didn't get to have a family, so I'm eradicating yours." The LAPD didn't shoot up some civilians because they're crazy, they did it because they're amped up and scared. And both of those things make you do incredibly stupid acts.

 

[MeChaNiZ3D]

Looks like a bit of fun, I'm off to find the manifesto. Honestly, police in all countries have their dull bulbs. I mean, there have been incidents in Australia of tazers being fired something like 40 times on a person. There's no circumstance to merit that. My other gripe is how hard is it to fire at a person in a car? There's only one place they're going to be, in the seat. If it weren't for the poor marksmanship, those paper girls would be dead.

 

[Animyr]

To be clear it wasn't that they were related to "a" police officer. The lady in the couple was the daughter of the officer who was supposed to be his advocate in the disciplinary hearings that he was fired over back in 08.

I know that. But the child simply isn't responsible for the sins of the father. If there are any sins.

 

[runic knight]

Guy gets fired, goes nuts and start killing corrupt cop's family? bad guy.

Cops freak out, start shooting any anything that moves? bad guys.

I say rein them all in.

The guy is off his rocker and even if he is more rational then a psychopath, he is still not right in the head and needs to be stopped. While I can sympathize with his plight in wanting to stop corruption and wanting to clean up the force, the methods used can not be condoned and his actions and words reveal e needs to be stopped.

The police reveal a fear and paranoia that is inexcusable, made all them ore suspicious as it comes directed towards a guy calling them out for corruption. The instant reliance of lethal force before even identification could be made shows a value on killing him over anything else and can easily lead to the belief that they have something more to hide or they know they have far less actual power to stop him then they let on. Either way, I would highly recommend tearing apart and examining the administration, the corruption claims and the management.


Or to put it simply here, both are wrong, both need to be taken care of and even if one may be "worse" then the other, doesn't mean they should be exclusively chosen.

 

[Gregory McMillan]

The police themselves say they are undertrained. On top of that, getting into a real firefight, severely reduces your control on your body. In other news, crazy people want to train teachers in school!

 

[knight steel]

Guy gets fired, goes nuts and start killing corrupt cop's family? bad guy.

Cops freak out, start shooting any anything that moves? bad guys.

I say rein them all in.

The guy is off his rocker and even if he is more rational then a psychopath, he is still not right in the head and needs to be stopped. While I can sympathize with his plight in wanting to stop corruption and wanting to clean up the force, the methods used can not be condoned and his actions and words reveal e needs to be stopped.

The police reveal a fear and paranoia that is inexcusable, made all them ore suspicious as it comes directed towards a guy calling them out for corruption. The instant reliance of lethal force before even identification could be made shows a value on killing him over anything else and can easily lead to the belief that they have something more to hide or they know they have far less actual power to stop him then they let on. Either way, I would highly recommend tearing apart and examining the administration, the corruption claims and the management.


Or to put it simply here, both are wrong, both need to be taken care of and even if one may be "worse" then the other, doesn't mean they should be exclusively chosen.

Dammit ninja stop stealing my thoughts and typing them out before our do >_<
But in all seriousness this a thousand times this!
Both parties are in the wrong and both need to be dealt with correctly.
This means investigation-trials-precaution.
Not shoot kill shoot.

 

[major_chaos]

clearly showing they want to kill this guy so he doesn't stand trial.

You honestly think they're going to let him be taken alive?

Dose it really not occur to either of you that the cops are scared out of there wits because a psychopath is hunting them and their families? a psychopath who has already jumped and killed two officers at a red light? nope it must be the EVUL POLICE covering their HORRIBLE EVUL. because after all the ruthless murdering sociopath says he is justified and his kind are known for being honest and reasonable. I'm not saying these cops shouldn't be investigated, at best they have show that they are too scared to do their job correctly and need to be taken of duty.

OT: IIT: people make excuses for a serial killer because when it comes to police the half the Escapist has a knee jerk reaction so strong it shatters bone. and logic.

 

[Padwolf]

I really hope they catch him soon. The police and their families must be terrified. The police that have shot at civilians do need to be investigated, but not right now. That killer is a psychopath and needs to be stopped before more innocent people get hurt by him. There is corruption in the police force but really killing people is not the way to solve it. Both parties are at fault and no doubt the police will be investigated too once they have caught the psychopath which is the more important thing right now. There is no excuse for a serial killer at all. There is no defending him either, he is doing bad things and would turn and kill you in an instant if you were the family of a police officer.

Dose it really not occur to either of you that the cops are scared out of there wits because a psychopath is hunting them and their families? a psychopath who has already jumped and killed two officers at a red light? nope it must be the EVUL POLICE covering their HORRIBLE EVUL. because after all the ruthless murdering sociopath says he is justified and his kind are known for being honest and reasonable. I'm not saying these cops shouldn't be investigated, at best they have show that they are too scared to do their job correctly and need to be taken of duty.

OT: IIT: people make excuses for a serial killer because when it comes to police the half the Escapist has a knee jerk reaction so strong it shatters bone. and logic.

This I agree with completely. Too much anti-police reactions

 

[Thaluikhain]

It's actually quite interesting to watch how this guy managed to tap into the national consciousness and get everyone to think of him as the classic hero struggling against the system. It's been so effective that everyone's concerned that the evil LAPD has wounded civilians when Dorner actually HAS killed multiple civilians for no better reason, so far as we know, then that they were related to a police officer. I'm sorry, but you can't really fix injustice with injustice. That just makes Dorner as bad if not worse then the organization he's fighting against, regardless of how legitimate or not his complaints may be, and in my opinion he's already invalidated everything he's fighting for.

My two cents, anyway.

Mmmm. Mind you, triggering an excessive response from the authorities to turn the public against them (such as the police shooting up a few random innocents by mistake) is a/the classic method of urban insurrection. In that, he's struck the LAPD a terrible blow, or at least provoked them into striking themselves.

But for him to somehow become a hero...I don't quite fathom that. Mind you, there's a lot of bandit heroes in folklore (glorified murderer Ned Kelly comes to mind), but I think it helps that they've been safely dead for decades, I'd like to think that sexy Nazi costumes weren't popular during WW2 (though it annoys me nowdays as well).

 

[DudeistBelieve]

clearly showing they want to kill this guy so he doesn't stand trial.

You honestly think they're going to let him be taken alive?

Dose it really not occur to either of you that the cops are scared out of there wits because a psychopath is hunting them and their families? a psychopath who has already jumped and killed two officers at a red light? nope it must be the EVUL POLICE covering their HORRIBLE EVUL. because after all the ruthless murdering sociopath says he is justified and his kind are known for being honest and reasonable. I'm not saying these cops shouldn't be investigated, at best they have show that they are too scared to do their job correctly and need to be taken of duty.

OT: IIT: people make excuses for a serial killer because when it comes to police the half the Escapist has a knee jerk reaction so strong it shatters bone. and logic.

First off, Mass Killer.

They're police, not soldiers. they are not allowed to go off half-cocked and get a drop on a suspect. If their nerves are so rattled that they are a danger to themselves or others they should stay home.