Losing control over anger.

[Captain_Fantastic]

Ok so to start off i recently read another discussion about a bullying case where said "bully" was stabbed 11 times, And the first thing i noticed is how people were saying that "11 times is a bit overboard".

now i have never stabbed anybody but i have been angry/upset enough that i have lost control over my actions i did stupid things like punch holes in walls recently, and beat up bullies when i was younger, I know it was stupid but when you get past that point you stop caring what happens.

but one thing i have never understood is usually after "snapping" like that people ask me why i did what i did. Now maybe im different but when i reach this point the border between right and wrong gets blurry, I know full well what im doing but I cannot stop myself usually i can keep myself from hurting anybody but something needs to be "hit".

Maybe some people never reach this point, Maybe i reach if easily, i don't know

 

[Ordinaryundone]

Not gonna lie, sounds like anger issues >__>

The problem with that story, in my opinion, is the case being thrown out as "self-defense" when the kid clearly went all Berzerker Barrage on the bully. Provoked or no, there is no excuse for stabbing someone 11 times. After the first, MAYBE the second the fight would have been over. After that point, you are trying to kill them.

 

[Fieldy409_v1legacy]

Yeah man I always want to point that out during these discussions. You cant think during the heat of the moment. Its easy to analyse a situation after its happened and say what the most logical course of action would have been but hindsight is 20 20

 

[JaceArveduin]

sounds like anger issues >__>
the kid clearly went all Berzerker Barrage on the bully.

That's what he saying, when you get pushed to the point of no return, your usually angry as fuck, then you either manage to reign it in, or you go zerker. There's no rationale once you pass that point, just making sure you're safe and those that threaten you aren't.

 

[Ordinaryundone]

sounds like anger issues >__>
the kid clearly went all Berzerker Barrage on the bully.

That's what he saying, when you get pushed to the point of no return, your usually angry as fuck, then you either manage to reign it in, or you go zerker. There's no rationale once you pass that point, just making sure you're safe and those that threaten you aren't.

But crimes of passion are still crimes. I don't think its a valid defense.

 

[Captain_Fantastic]

sounds like anger issues >__>
the kid clearly went all Berzerker Barrage on the bully.

That's what he saying, when you get pushed to the point of no return, your usually angry as fuck, then you either manage to reign it in, or you go zerker. There's no rationale once you pass that point, just making sure you're safe and those that threaten you aren't.

But crimes of passion are still crimes. I don't think its a valid defense.

but have you ever lost control yourself??

 

[CODE-D]

I got punched in the face without warning and didnt lose control but kinda wish I had.
The little fucker.....

 

[FamoFunk]

I'm always reminded I'm angry at the world.

I never lose control of it though ... [small]maybe once or twice >.>[/small]

 

[Ordinaryundone]

sounds like anger issues >__>
the kid clearly went all Berzerker Barrage on the bully.

That's what he saying, when you get pushed to the point of no return, your usually angry as fuck, then you either manage to reign it in, or you go zerker. There's no rationale once you pass that point, just making sure you're safe and those that threaten you aren't.

But crimes of passion are still crimes. I don't think its a valid defense.

but have you ever lost control yourself??

Of course, everyone has had a time when they were screaming, frothing angry. But at the same time, I've never gone and stabbed anyone over it. Most people can hold it in, or at least remain lucid enough to release that anger in a way that won't harm anyone (at least, not physically).

The only people who say "I got angry, blacked out, and when I came too there was blood everywhere!" are lunatics and the Incredible Hulk. It just seems...wrong to me that this kid committed murder and isn't even getting a slap on the wrist for it. Kids all through history have been bullied, and nearly all have learned to get through school without killing someone. The ones that didn't got thrown in jail. I don't see why he should be the exception, anger problems or no.

 

[manic_depressive13]

No that's insane. My entire family are psychos who break things and hit me (and only me- probably because they know I won't hit back) when they get angry. Then they turn around and apologise, adding "But you know how it is when you just get really angry." No. No I don't fucking know. Angry I'm familiar with, but you don't hit. It's not okay to punch holes through my door and it's not okay to hit me. Why can't they seem to get that through their fat retarded skulls? They make me so angry I could just about complain about it anonymously on the internet.

Sorry, I got a bit off track. In conclusion, being angry is not a legitimate excuse for losing your faculties of reason to the extent that you break things or physically attack people, and if you do you're a stupid retard.

 

[krazykidd]

Not gonna lie, sounds like anger issues >__>

The problem with that story, in my opinion, is the case being thrown out as "self-defense" when the kid clearly went all Berzerker Barrage on the bully. Provoked or no, there is no excuse for stabbing someone 11 times. After the first, MAYBE the second the fight would have been over. After that point, you are trying to kill them.

I disagree , when you feel you life is in danger , you will do anything to survive. If you read the story , the kid did EVERYTHING physically possible to avoid confrontation . He even tried to back away . He was left with no choice . When you are in such a situation you make sure it's over . I can honestly say i would have done the same thing and i am happy about the ending . I mean seriously . The guy that got stabbed deserved it . And it's notnlong to stab someone 11 times, i'm pretty sure it happened so fast the kid thought he only stabed him twice . You know when you get an adrenalin rush shit just happens and you realise it afterwards .

When you compare to actual premeditated stab crimes , people get stabbed 30 even 50 times . 11 in comparaison isn't that much , mostly in a state of panic combined with an adrenalin rush . I hope bullies read this and stop bulling due to fear of being stabbed .

 

[Kae]

I used to have that problem Mr. Captain Fantastic, it got so far to the point I almost slit my cousin's (He is a drug dealer, and drives me nuts) throat, shortly after that I had a nervous breakdown at class in which I went completely insane and started punching people at rand, fortunately for them I'm very very weak so I didn't do any damage, ever since then I haven't felt angry to the point I'd punch someone, if you ask me I think you should get that checked out with a psychologist, I would but to tell you the truth I'm afraid of them because everybody has always told me that I might not be sane and I'm afraid that may be true so I avoid them at all costs.

 

[Smooth Operator]

We can all reach the snapping point just depends how much abuse it takes and how much restraint you have.
It is our primal defense mechanism that kicks in when we perceive mortal danger, and once it happens it is near impossible to control because our entire body is now telling us that this is the right thing to do.
When you are in actual mortal danger it is an extremely effective system that will bring you out of your shell and put you in a rage frenzy until the assailant is dealt with, you will do anything to ensure survival.

But when you snap out of proper context it's very bad, sure the bullying may be harmless but if it builds up your fears to the point where you believe to be in grave danger it wont make one bit of difference if they put a knife to your neck or punch you one time too many, the gloves are off and survival insurance is on the menu.

 

[chaosyoshimage]

I may have stabbed somebody once, just once, and that was during my overzealous fanboy days. He made some crack about Nintendo. Punched a guy for a remark like that...

I wish I was joking...

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Not gonna lie, sounds like anger issues >__>

The problem with that story, in my opinion, is the case being thrown out as "self-defense" when the kid clearly went all Berzerker Barrage on the bully. Provoked or no, there is no excuse for stabbing someone 11 times. After the first, MAYBE the second the fight would have been over. After that point, you are trying to kill them.

When I read that story a lot of people I talked to commented that the kid went overboard stabbing the bully and that just one or two stabs would have been enough. Problem with that is that inflicting just a few stab wounds can be interpreted as premeditated murder, and the fact that he stabbed the bully 11 times is actually a clear indication of self defense.

Here's something interesting you may not know, in the US a soldier isn't allowed to use their training if their house is broken into. If you place two or one shot into someone who is coming at you it is considered premeditated. You have to "frantically fire your weapon" as if your life is in danger and you can't think clearly. If that kid had only stabbed twice, then he would be charged with premeditated murder. It is because of those 12 stabs that he is not in trouble, because he acted out of fear and fear for his very life.

The idea behind that is that if you are a normal person and your life is in danger you're going to panic, and if you panic you're going to do whatever it takes to get away. If you aren't going overboard then a jury can actually be convinced that you didn't feel like you were in sufficient danger.

The kid did the right thing.

 

[Ectoplasmicz]

Ive lost control, first mentally, then it breaks down into anger where i just want to destroy what i see. ive done things i regret, and its happened on more than one occasion, but i understand what you mean by losing complete control of yourself and your actions.