Brockyman said:
What do you mean "they don't care"? I think a lot of them do care. They couldn't just use the EU in the movies, but they've made it a side cannon, it's not a bad thing if you look at it logically
You want to talk "logic"?
Lets not dress this shit up: Disney doesn't care because to them Star Wars is just a brand to be exploited, nothing more.
Now, Lucas milked the motherfuck out of Star Wars, but the difference between him and Disney, is that for a good long while, he still cared...even if it was the care of a rich egotistical madman.
Disney has no such personal attachments.
The reality is that Disney wants to slash the EU entirely because it's too complicated and "geeky" for their new pet monkey JJ Abrams to work with, but at the same time they don't want to lose that EU revenue. So instead, they opted to rebrand it.
It makes perfect sense as business logic.
Ultimately, it's good news for Disney and their bottom line.
But for anyone who was invested in the EU, it's not good news; It's horrible news, because anyone who thinks about it LOGICALLY will realize that Disney is basically throwing out decades of work purely for their own convenience.
Kill the geek culture so that the popular culture can flourish.
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Atmos Duality said:
Brockyman said:
What do you mean "they don't care"? I think a lot of them do care. They couldn't just use the EU in the movies, but they've made it a side cannon, it's not a bad thing if you look at it logically
You want to talk "logic"?
Lets not dress this shit up: Disney doesn't care because to them Star Wars is just a brand to be exploited, nothing more.
Now, Lucas milked the motherfuck out of Star Wars, but the difference between him and Disney, is that for a good long while, he still cared...even if it was the care of a rich egotistical madman.
Disney has no such personal attachments.
The reality is that Disney wants to slash the EU entirely because it's too complicated and "geeky" for their new pet monkey JJ Abrams to work with, but at the same time they don't want to lose that EU revenue. So instead, they opted to rebrand it.
It makes perfect sense as business logic.
Ultimately, it's good news for Disney and their bottom line.
But for anyone who was invested in the EU, it's not good news; It's horrible news, because anyone who thinks about it LOGICALLY will realize that Disney is basically throwing out decades of work purely for their own convenience.
Kill the geek culture so that the popular culture can flourish.
Captcha: "Circle of life"
How serendipitous.
You raise interesting points. Let me try to break them apart bit by bit
1. I don't know about your "brand to be exploited" argument. Of course they want to make money, they paid billions of dollars for it, but I also see what they've done with Marvel. The Marvel Cinematic Universe is something geek culture has craved for years, is ran by people who care about comics and the franchise. Abrams is on record saying that he is so much closer to Star Wars than Trek, so I'm starting out with hope
2. I have my issues with Lucas same as anyone, but I've always had an issue with people saying he milked/killed Star Wars. Star Wars belonged to George Lucas. Not you, not me. He could have easily stopped after Jedi and not allowed an Expanded Universe at all, but he did. Sure he got normal royalties off characters he created, but the fact he allowed others to use and make money for what is basically fan fiction was new at the time.
I'm not claiming he didn't make some boneheaded stupid decisions, but I don't think he had evil intent. The general storyline and concept of the prequels was a good one, but just executed poorly with bad actors, bad screenplays, and everything that's been documented.
The "Special Editions" of the Original Trilogy (except for the Han/Greedo scene, but that's liberal political correctness gone amok) wasn't a bad idea either, it's just them not releasing the original cuts/prints on blu ray/digital that's the real issue
3. Disney/LucasFilms stated purpose for cutting the EU is so they can have creative control of movies and so they can make a fresh story. That does make sense but here is something LOGICALLY you need to consider
THE MAIN STAR WARS CHARACTERS PORTRAYED IN A LOT OF THE NOVELS/EU OR TO FREAKING OLD TO PLAY THE PARTS/ROLES THEY WOULD NEED TO IN THE MOVIES
Also, you can't just pick up 20-30 years down the EU road. A lot of Star Wars fans didn't get all the way into the EU and wouldn't know what was going on if they just followed the story with Han, Luke and Leia aging 20-30 years.
Another thing to remember is that they never actually claimed that the EU WAS cannon, fans ASSUMED it was cannon. Star Trek (all time periods and eras), Stargate (movie and TV shows), Babylon 5, Farscape, Batttlestar Galactica, and others have all had books, comics, table top games, video games, and other content that isn't in the continuity laid out by the creators and founders of the franchises.
4. I'm sick and tired of people bashing "business logic" when it comes to movies and video games. Yes, there are business exes that make stupid decisions, but you have to realize that movies and games are businesses and require people, money and resources to make. I do agree they should take more chances and not follow just the same formula, but you can't bash people for wanting to make sure they're employees and stockholders make, and don't lose, their money. Star Wars isn't yours. It isn't a charity for you to have what you want it to be.
5. If your invested in the EU, and are a mature adult, this should have little to no impact on you. If you're a real fan, the fact they are planning to make 3 direct movies and spinoffs and a new cartoon should at least make you a little excited... guarded maybe, but at least interested. The fact they aren't "cannon" shouldn't take away your enjoyment of reading the stories and playing the games. I've read a ton of different Star Trek novels that either stray from or actually go against cannon, and still enjoyed them.
6. Kill Geek Culture? Really? Um, they are releasing a movie that has a sentient tree and talking racoon based on a super obscure Marvel Comic. The 2 biggest movie franchises are about superheros and wizards. The highest grossing movie of all time is about blue aliens. Ever year, more people go out to and cosplay at thousands of conventions around the world, and San Diego ComicCon is one of the biggest entertainment events in the world.
So what the living hell are you talking about killing geek culture? Is it because they do add/subtract a little to include more people? Are you such an entitled person that you can't allow filthy casual/popular audiences to enjoy "geek" culture?
Grow Up
