Mac vs PC's - Not a poll

[LordOmnit]

For me, it's mostly a matter of interface: I find Windows' interface to be intuitive and work well- allowing you to set your own settings a good portion of the time and create your own directories and have all of your files lined up in nice neat rows like some kind of phalanx. Macs' interface, however, has always given me problems- you'd think a filebar across the top at all times would be helpful, but it just annoys me because it constantly changes per program and even getting past that it takes searching to find whatever you want to do to change settings rather than a simple three-to-four step process of: Control Panel, click relevant icon, click relevant tab, fix problem. On a Mac it keeps things in much harder ways to work and sometimes will think you're done with what you were planning and just close it out because you changed a setting (sure that'll get it done, but what if I wanted to do more than one thing there?). I reserve the bulk of my ire, however, for that annoying launch bar or whatever it is at the bottom. Why is it that clicking on an active program that isn't at the front of your screen bring it to the front? Why does it not even show open windows so if I'm running a couple of windows of an internet browser then I have to drag each around until I find my long lost other one or minus them into the even less useful position of being tiny unlabeled things over in the corner. Windows 7 tried to copy this idea for some god-awful reason, but they got it right by making either clicking on the icon bring up the only available image or showing you all extant windows and allowing you to preview them by running your mouse over them and, thusly, in quick succession finding what you were looking for.

Well, that's well enough ranting and probably all points other people have made anyways, but I'm just instinctively get a sour look on my face whenever I am faced with a Mac and have to use it.

 

[Claptrap]

This won't end well.

But anyway, From what (little) i know, Windows is more for gameing, Macs/linux is for computer work/art.

The problem I have with Macs is no right click, makes Photoshop and word so much harder to use

That basically sums up the debate. They both have their uses it depends what you need.

Dude, u missed out the best part. That originally had linux in there too

Can't you get a mouse that does that for the mac? Or you could press some key and left click and it counted as a right click? Or..something, I remember you could right click somehow.

 

[Wardnath]

Mac vs PC's

vs

Yeah, this thread won't last long. Sorry OP.

OT: I'm not too sure that I've had any real experience with Macs, so it's PCs for me.

macs r gay lololol

Ha! The only thing better than a troll is someone who is sarcasticly being a troll!

wat

 

[Samwise137]

I use both. A PC for games and a Mac for work. Regrettably, my mac is getting old and I can't afford to upgrade.

 

[ThePerfectionist]

Basically:

Macs are great for creative work, such as photo-editing, creating computer artwork, music/sound mixing, film editing, etc.

PCs are better for everyday use, like programming, MS Office, gaming, etc.

This is something I've been saying for quite some time now, with the exception that I usually add that Mac battery life kicks PC battery life in the ass. I'm a PC user and always have been, but when it became apparent that between me and my brother, we were going to start wanting to edit videos and create music, I recommended he get a Mac for his next one. For everyday use, I'd never touch the thing, but it's nice to have it there for when it's needed.

Also, I met my first Linux user yesterday, and now I know why they are stereotyped as elitist douchebags. He was a friendly douche, but a douche nonetheless.

 

[Mr Pantomime]

This won't end well.

But anyway, From what (little) i know, Windows is more for gameing, Macs/linux is for computer work/art.

The problem I have with Macs is no right click, makes Photoshop and word so much harder to use

That basically sums up the debate. They both have their uses it depends what you need.

Dude, u missed out the best part. That originally had linux in there too

Can't you get a mouse that does that for the mac? Or you could press some key and left click and it counted as a right click? Or..something, I remember you could right click somehow.

Yeah, hold down ctrl. but thats awkward when typing

 

[Communist partisan]

That basically sums up the debate. They both have their uses it depends what you need.

Edit : Credit to Mr. Pantomime for the improved picture!

Exactly! after you sended that picture I have nothing to say, damn! ;D

 

[Agayek]

Anyway, depending on the computer, I'll use Windows or Linux. Yes, Mac OS X is beginning to get games ported to it, but there's a substantially larger library for Windows. As for Linux, I have reasons for using it, ranging from the flexibility of configurations that you can use it on to it simply being a better option for a small subset of programs.

What this guy said. I use a dual-boot setup with Windows for gaming/standard use and Linux for when I actually need to work on something.

 

[Bobzer77]

There was once a time when a P.C and a Mac would share a desk together.

 

[demoman_chaos]

I use Linux and XP, I like my mouse to have 2 buttons and a wheel.

I won't pay for an apple product because they are overpriced and really have anything more to offer than the competitors (like and Ipod vs an off brand MP3 player, or iPhone vs smart phone) other than the fact it is cool to have Apple tat. Anything Apple makes has a bad habit of being WAY overrated and Apple has a worse habit of not admitting they made a mistake with their products (see the iPhone dropping calls when you hold it in your left hand is not a design flaw, it is just you holding it wrong).

Anything office/art wise Linux can do better, anything gaming wise XP can do better.

Hardware wise, I HATE Macs. Every try working on 1 (admittedly, I only had to mess with the older junk)? PC's are simple in that everything comes apart and goes together the same no matter the model (except for the case). Mac's have their own way of putting things together and their parts are all unqiue to Mac. You can put a Gateway part into an HP with usually no problem, but only Apple parts work in only Apple products. Plus they are a ***** to take apart without a hammer.

 

[gnarf]

to say that Macs are higher quality is wrong, if windows were only installed on 3 different models of hardware and the hardware manufacturers weren't allowed to create extra options and customizations then sure windows would probably have the same quality illusion that Macs have. hardware is hardware you buy good hardware for your PC and it'll last you forever, buy low end crap and you'll have crap. I refuse to pay a premium for image (also why i don't own an ipod)

 

[erztez]

There was once a time when a P.C and a Mac would share a desk together.

Lies.
Back when that was theoretically possible, both platforms took enough desk space to fill the whole damn thing.

 

[night_chrono]

Although I am a windows user, there is one misconception I would like to clear up about the Apple price and the "quality"

As explained to me by a friend who is an engineer at Apple, when Apple orders say 1000 CPU's from intel, intel makes a batch of 10,000 to fulfill all their orders. Rather then just send out the first 1000 to Apple, Apple sends a representative to hand pick the 1000 from the batch. We all know manufacturing defects happen so this is another step in Apples quality control that contributes to the higher cost.

 

[Duol]

I've seen someone else say this here or somewhere else:
"Since when are solid blocks of aluminium as cheap as plastic?"

I have both a Mac and a PC, both laptops as I am a student and portability in one form or another is important to me.
Sony 16.1 inch PC for main use at home and playing the odd game that doesn't appear on xbox.
Apple MacBook Air for school use/working/travel.

Even though the PC is a Sony and has at least double the power of the mac it was about 8-900 euros cheaper. However if I could only keep one it would be the mac. Why? Detail.

Simple things like the track pad. most track pads are innoperable over long sessions (Sony) or just downright crap (netbooks). MacBook Air track pad is a joy to use, better than a mouse at times, particularly when web browsing. The aluminium casing feels nice to the touch, it feels like a quality product as oppposed to sheets of cut open weelie bin plastic that make up most PCs.

Those are just 2 things (out of a long list), but to me they make a big difference. Sure you can sit there and dis the specs all day and say you could by 5 netbooks or a massive gaming rig for the price of a macbook air but that's not the point. The point is that it is a design statement that combines asthetic beauty with power and practicality. It's not for everyone, it's not the most powerful, its not the most practical, its probably not the most beautifull either. But it scores highly in all categories with ease.

Just beacuse something is more expensive doesn't automatically make it a "waste of money"

Many "gamers" buy into their own "lifestyle" with LED lights in their custom builds and buy custom faceplates for their xbox, or have 4 PS3's all in different editions. Is this adding anything to the "system" the amount of power you can generate? no of course not, so why are people who pay for an actual quality substance (aluminium) regarded to be a bunch of lifestyle posers? Is every person who custom builds a computer with flashy lights and pays a fortune for special editions of games so they can get a 10 cent plastic figurine just a silly sweaty nerd?

 

[Sebenko]

Macs are great for creative work, such as photo-editing, creating computer artwork, music/sound mixing, film editing, etc.

Please explain this. Every time there's a Mac Vs PC topic, this comes up. No-one ever justifies it. It's just "Macs is better at the photos, lol", and that's the end of it. Why? What makes them better?

Also, Mac Vs PC topic, lolololololololololololololol

 

[Cynical skeptic]

Well, to be perfectly honest, I can understand why apple products typically have a two to eight hundred percent markup. Idiot proofing is hard. Not only is it hard, you'll hit diminishing returns almost instantly. Every effort made to protect stupid people from screwing up simply opens up new and different ways for people to screw up. The fact they've even come close to making an idiot proof operating system that doesn't automatically crash is utterly amazing. To reference an old quote, "if one were to attempt to create an AI by pre-programming every possibility, it'd instantly suffer a nervous breakdown and crash, if it did anything at all."

Its for this is the reason apple products are so restrictive and overly simplified. Yes, this should piss you off. Steve Jobs is basically saying to every macOS user "you are too stupid to have a options. You'll just fuck them up anyway."

Not to mention, their earlier marketing plan of getting as many macs as possible into as many schools as possible, so as to establish their platform as the end-all for any sort of professional application through pure conditioning was the antithesis of ethics.

 

[Requx]

I like Pc and linux os alot more than macs, plus theres the customization and actually being affordable. I don't understand why so many people who have trouble using computers go to mac though. They could always you know... learn how to be awesome.

 

[Geekosaurus]

I'd buy a Mac if I could afford one. But I can't, so I go PC. Simple as that.

 

[Babitz]

Also, Apple's advertising campaigns generally just piss me off because they spend more time bashing on Windows than they do actually telling us about their product, and when a company pisses you off you really don't feel like giving them money.

It's ironic that Apple would've been out of business if it weren't for Microsoft. Microsoft bought a lot of Apple's stock back in the 90's which helped them stay in business.

 

[the7ofswords]

In my house we have a couple of Dells, a home-built Win7 PC, an iMac G3, an iMac G5 and an iMac Intel Core 2 duo. (And a whole lot of even older computers that don't see any use any more. The old PCs are junk. The old Macs - and I'm talking vintages as old as 1986 - still work flawlessly. Of course, there's not much you can do with a computer that old these days, no matter what OS it runs.)

As someone with a good deal of experience on both major platforms, I can tell you that a Mac is NOT overpriced. If you go out and configure a Dell or HP today and get it as close as possible to the hardware specs on a Mac, there's really very little difference. The reason people think that Macs are more expensive is because you CAN get a cheap PC. You can get it stripped down with a low feature set. And you can build your own. It's not that Macs are so much more expensive, it's that Apple refuses to play in the lower end of the market. They're competing for the high-end dollar.

Also, Macs come with a better design overall, which, to me, is totally worth a small premium. And I'm talking hardware AND software. Mac OS X is hands-down a better operating system than Windows. I understand if you want to tinker and upgrade pieces and such, you get or build a Windows box. If you want a larger library of games, you go with Windows (or run Windows on your Mac). But if you want a reliable, easy-to-use computer that you want to get work done on, you're better off with a Mac.

Also, Macs have had multi-button mice standard for YEARS now. They may LOOK like single- or even no-button mice, but their surfaces are touch-sensitive, and can tell which side you're clicking. The newer ones are actually MORE versatile than a standard Windows mouse, as they've added swiping gestures and such.

And when it comes to people who have used Photoshop on both a Windows machine and a Mac professionally (as I do - I work in graphic services for a large publisher) - I will guarantee you that after giving both a good, fair chance the VAST majority will prefer the Mac.

In my house, the Windows boxes are used for a few games. When anyone wants to get work done, though - they go to one of the Macs. (Although, in the case of games that are available on the Mac, the Macs are preferred.)

I have nothing against Windows users - hell, I am one - and there are plenty of good reasons to choose a Windows machine. But, overall - dollar for dollar - the Mac is the better machine, and has the better system.

At least that's how I see it.

~Cheers!