Mafia 2 Producer Apologizes for "Gay Space Marine" Comment
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This is pathetic.
I have gay friends who use the word "gay" to mean other things all the time, some people are just looking for reasons to get offended tbh, it's not like he said "these flaming homosexual ****** marines should go die in a fire" or something.
I have gay friends who use the word "gay" to mean other things all the time, some people are just looking for reasons to get offended tbh, it's not like he said "these flaming homosexual ****** marines should go die in a fire" or something.
So are Space Marines offended because he called them gay? Or are gays offended because he associated them with Space Marines?
Still, his point is valid.
Still, his point is valid.
He should apologize for it. He didn't mean "gay," he meant "hyper closeted, clearly over compensating space marines." If they were actually out, I think they'd be much less dour.
One must aim for accuracy when speaking, after all. Harrumph.
One must aim for accuracy when speaking, after all. Harrumph.
I don't see how he was insulting homosexual people...a lot of those space marines -are- gay.
There's an old trope that exists (for a reason) about 'roided out, over aggressive men; something about either compensating for being "in the closet", or having a severe oedipus complex.
There's an old trope that exists (for a reason) about 'roided out, over aggressive men; something about either compensating for being "in the closet", or having a severe oedipus complex.
People do realise that Yahtzee has said, to effect, the very same thing in both (I think) his reviews of the Gears of Wars games, right?
Did he have to apologize too?
Did he have to apologize too?
I know of agree with the comment (enought halo clones already) but it was in extreamly poor taste.
I don't get this either. What the hell is wrong with using the word "gay"? Gay is a normal word to describe happiness, colorfulness or homosexuals.gellert1984 said:
This is from the article at Gaygamer:
So it's okay for you to call your site GayGamer, but it's NOT OK for someone to say "gay space marines"? I mean, seriously??? WTF?
I would get it if he had said "****** space marines" or something like that, but how is "gay space marines" in any way insulting?
If something goes on my nerves, it's this kind of nick-picky political correctness. Soon people won't be able to express any opinion because someone will always be offended. Jesus.
What the problem with what he said? I say gay all the time, and it has nothing to do with homosexuals. See South Park.
He should've picked better words instead of sounding like a fucking homophobe, full-stop. In an era where we can't even repeal DADT, people throwing the word "gay" around as a derogatory slur piss me off to no end.Don said:
I'm not a fan of Politically Correct language, but I am sick of the way the word gay is used. Yes I get it he was being satirical. But on the other hand there are people who will take it out of context.
I could kinda see how that was wrong. I know what he meant and obviously wasnt attacking homosexuals but then again, gays get enough shit as is from governments and religious groups, the way that gay has become a genral term to insult somthing doesnt help much
Sadly that would require people to grow up and use their brains for once instead of being so simple-mindedly fixed on their own opinions and more open-minded to other people's views but there I go on my journey across Dream land.Scobie said:
I perfectly understood what he ment by the comment and knew why he said me as it makes a very good point in today's market place. Some people just get offended way to easily.
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Did his comment really muddy the waters?
Taken absolutely literally, he asserted that the problem with video games was the proliferation of marines who travel in space rather than over water, and said marines engage in an alternate sexual lifestyle. Sure, I could also interpret the statement wherein the word "gay" is assumed to be a pejorative, in which case the comment becomes that video games have a problem with the proliferation of lame, boring or stupid marines who travel through space rather than over water.
Either interpretation makes a valid point I'd say. The bromance is indeed strong with many of those marines so I might interpret them as possibly being homosexual. They are also often entirely interchangeable characters which means I could easily call them "lame" or "rubbish" or "boring" or any of the other pejorative interpretations of the word gay.
And, while I can understand why people might get mad (the word gay is being used as a cudgel in either case), it strikes me as strange that we so rarely apply such arbitrary interpretation of language. The word space, for example, does not necessarily imply that area outside the earth's ionosphere and can instead refer to a basic dimensional concept. Taken to the illogical extreme, I could interpret his statement to mean something along the lines of: the problem with video games is the proliferation of lame water areas, a dig at the regular inclusion of bodies of water in many video games.
But, I don't do that because I have this amazing capacity to critically read and don't just assign arbitrary meanings to words; instead, I use the context in which the words exist to determine what the writer or speaker might have meant to say.
Taken absolutely literally, he asserted that the problem with video games was the proliferation of marines who travel in space rather than over water, and said marines engage in an alternate sexual lifestyle. Sure, I could also interpret the statement wherein the word "gay" is assumed to be a pejorative, in which case the comment becomes that video games have a problem with the proliferation of lame, boring or stupid marines who travel through space rather than over water.
Either interpretation makes a valid point I'd say. The bromance is indeed strong with many of those marines so I might interpret them as possibly being homosexual. They are also often entirely interchangeable characters which means I could easily call them "lame" or "rubbish" or "boring" or any of the other pejorative interpretations of the word gay.
And, while I can understand why people might get mad (the word gay is being used as a cudgel in either case), it strikes me as strange that we so rarely apply such arbitrary interpretation of language. The word space, for example, does not necessarily imply that area outside the earth's ionosphere and can instead refer to a basic dimensional concept. Taken to the illogical extreme, I could interpret his statement to mean something along the lines of: the problem with video games is the proliferation of lame water areas, a dig at the regular inclusion of bodies of water in many video games.
But, I don't do that because I have this amazing capacity to critically read and don't just assign arbitrary meanings to words; instead, I use the context in which the words exist to determine what the writer or speaker might have meant to say.