Majora's Mask
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It was because skull kid, stole the Major's mask form a traveling mask salesmen. The one you meet in the beginning in the clock tower. The mask gave him power and through that evil. You even find out he was just a oppressed orphan with nothing, forced to steal to survive.toriver said:
Overall I never had a chance to finish MM(I will eventually) but it was my favorite story of all time out of the Zelda series. The characters were more interesting, and all the side quest, and the combat changing through different use of the mask.
I just like this game because it had the most ideas out of all the Zelda games.
MM was really good. the sidequests for some masks were insane (the whole wedding q oO).
Also the time was a nice idea, not because it added another challenge but you had to be at the right point at the right time to explore most content.
Plus, Zora Link and gerudo pirates!
All in all OoT MM WW but OoT just for mostalgia ^^ LttP, if you go this far back has to be 1.
Also the time was a nice idea, not because it added another challenge but you had to be at the right point at the right time to explore most content.
Plus, Zora Link and gerudo pirates!
All in all OoT MM WW but OoT just for mostalgia ^^ LttP, if you go this far back has to be 1.
But the ultimate question here is, was the mask itself evil or did it become evil after falling into Skull Kid's hands? Which one of the two made the other evil? And if the mask was the source of the evil, why? That's the question.Mcupobob said:
The main reason I love Majora's Mask is the time travel mechanic.
You can face bosses again (FINALLY!), go through areas with new items and masks, open new areas, and redo sidequests.
But the saving was bad. Restart your progress or find an owl, compared to OoT's pressing start.
You can face bosses again (FINALLY!), go through areas with new items and masks, open new areas, and redo sidequests.
But the saving was bad. Restart your progress or find an owl, compared to OoT's pressing start.
It's the only Zelda game with serious adult undertones (life, death, aging, love, regret) aimed at the PLAYER rather than at Link.
Majora's Mask features amazing dungeons (with the 4th dungeon easily being the best in the series, both in design and execution) and a game mechanic based literally on the passage of time. The "Groundhog Day" scenario is really creepy and quite intimidating on its own in ways few games even try to emulate.
Most of the masks are gimmicks...but the three main "transformation masks" added great depth to the game.
Did I mention the soul-crushing difficulty? If not, let me say THIS GAME ACTUALLY BECOMES DIFFICULT. That's something Ocarina of Time didn't really do (Water Temple is long; not hard.)
It's also my favorite Zelda title to date, with Link to the Past, the Oracle games, and OoT right behind it.
Majora's Mask features amazing dungeons (with the 4th dungeon easily being the best in the series, both in design and execution) and a game mechanic based literally on the passage of time. The "Groundhog Day" scenario is really creepy and quite intimidating on its own in ways few games even try to emulate.
Most of the masks are gimmicks...but the three main "transformation masks" added great depth to the game.
Did I mention the soul-crushing difficulty? If not, let me say THIS GAME ACTUALLY BECOMES DIFFICULT. That's something Ocarina of Time didn't really do (Water Temple is long; not hard.)
It's also my favorite Zelda title to date, with Link to the Past, the Oracle games, and OoT right behind it.
That's somewhat arguable. Link's development just isn't shown through the use of dialogue due to mute protagonist status. Compare Link at the beginning to at the end.Gralian said:
Development:
Initially, he was the classic image of the bitter veteran. Ganondorf had been foiled, and Link was left without a place in the world. However, not only had he lost the evil he desired to fight against, but also every link to his deeds. Having been sent back in time, no one was even aware that he had ever saved Hyrule. The one person that knew about it, the one person that tied him to his heroism had left after the deed was done. He took off into what was presumably the lost woods, a suicidal mission for those without a fairy to guie them. He just didn't care about his life now that the purpose that he thought he held was over.
Compare this to how he acts at the end of the game. Over the course of it, he realises renewed purpose, and sees that he really can help others without a single overpowering evil to fight against. He leaves Termina confidently, not seeming to mind the parting at all. This is a stark contrast to the final act of Ocarina of Time in which Link seems to hesitate in passing Zelda the ocarina to send him back.
Revelation:
Over the course of the game, he comes to realise that he can live without necessarily being a hero, an act symbolised by the masks. It is worth noting that the majority of the masks that Link receives are not given for overcoming an a problem stemming directly from Majora, and several of them could have just as easily occured with or without it. The Kafei side quest's primary antagonist is a common thief, the Romani Mask is the result of saving the cows from creatures that predate the recent appearance of Majora followed by fighting off common bandits, the Bremen mask is the result of listening to a man's guilty conscience without passing judgement over him, the stone mask is from the act of giving even the most common and non-descript of soldiers the power to stand up as an individual, and so on. While in Ocarina of Time, Link matured physically, mentally he remained a child, and the experiences twisted him. Majora's Mask not only helps to heal Link's soul, but also to mature him as a person.
The final mask, the fierce diety is awarded only after Link has passed through all of the trials and come to see that he can take his place as a hero, even without a Ganon-esque figure, and then give away the masks, the symbols of those deeds. The complete opposite to how he acted back at the end of Ocarina of Time, where he futily chased after the last link.
The three masks that he refuses to give away are the transformation masks, containing the souls of the people that helped him the most, and that, in two cases, he sent to final death. This creating the idea of keeping the memories of the dead with you, but not clouding your vision.
Additionally, the appearance of the Fierce Diety itself brings its function into question. It's a transformation mask, but what is it transforming him into. It looks surprisingly like Link himself. This part is pure speculation, but I subscribe to the theory that it is in fact the physical manifestation of his own soul, and symbolising his inner maturity.
It wasn't as difficult as Link to the past, though I think that's for the better. LTTP had a mechanical difficulty, Majora's mask had difficulty in puzzles, for the most part. Though fighting Majora's sans Deity's mask is rock hard in the final incarnation.Atmos Duality said:
OT: Majora's mask is my favourite Zelda, and quite possibly my favourite game ever. The darker themes, the persistent world, the oodles of side quests, the kick ass masks...
I just wish there 1 or 2 more primary dungeons to sink my teeth into.
It becomes especially bad when you have a damaged cartrige that likes to crash whenever the faintest breeze passes over it. One time I saved the ranch and got Epona + Bottle, collected the Zora eggs, defended Cremia from bandits, collected the captain's hat, saved Shirou, learned the song of storms, and the new wave bossa nova, and then boom, the game crashed. That was just annoying.TheYellowCellPhone said:
I liked Ocarina of Time more. Because I was terrible at Majora's Mask but I could get somewhere in Ocarina of time. This was also when I was about 6. Now I played a bit more of MM and found it much more enjoyable, but I think I like OoT more. My favorite Zelda game is still Wind Waker though.
OoT is a great game, but I think that it gets a little too much attention and I don't know, it felt like it was way too slow to get started for me and it gave me the sense that I had done it all before. I have never played MM but I do want to because it looks like an interesting game. It just sort of breaks the tradition of the Zelda series by not having the same old villain and not having a princess and that's enough to get my attention.
WW, TP, OoT, MM. I loved Majora's Mask for adding a new layer of gameplay via the different masks. It did a good job changing up the pace to keep thing interesting. Ocarina of Time was good too, but I just like Majora's Mask better.
I hated MM.For me the time loop was a pain.But Iloved Wind Waker its still the most original Zelda that I ever played.
I loved MM, to the extent where I regard it as the best Zelda game. Sure, the time limit is annoying to some but I liked the challenge it presented along with the sidequests. There were many people that you had to help out, and the time loop allowed you to see the effects of your intervention or not, which made the world feel a lot more real and a lot more intricate than a bunch of random NPCs. The overall tone of the game was a lot more darker than OoT, and there's a lot of symbolism that I found with the game.
wow, quite surprised about the mixed feelings about MM. the 3 day time thing seems to be people's biggest gripe with it. though some say it's one of the best Zelda games, a few people have said some of the Gameboy Zelda games are better than MM, A Link to the Past and the Oracle games have been mentioned. I played ALttP recently and it was really good, seemed more like a Zelda game than MM. not played the Oracle ones though.
It's up there with the greatest games ever for me, along with Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess. Out of those three games, it would come in third for me. Most of the game in incredible, and I have only two complaints about it.
The minor complaint: giving the moon a face was cheesy. The major complaint: STONE TOWER. Gaahhhh. That's my least favorite Zelda temple ever. It's so dreary and you have to play that same damn song so many freaking times in it and leading up to it. Not crazy about the temple boss in it either.
It has, for me, one of the most challenging sections - if not the most challenging one - in a Zelda game ever. That's the Goron room on the moon. God I fail that rolling track section so many times every time I play the game.
The minor complaint: giving the moon a face was cheesy. The major complaint: STONE TOWER. Gaahhhh. That's my least favorite Zelda temple ever. It's so dreary and you have to play that same damn song so many freaking times in it and leading up to it. Not crazy about the temple boss in it either.
It has, for me, one of the most challenging sections - if not the most challenging one - in a Zelda game ever. That's the Goron room on the moon. God I fail that rolling track section so many times every time I play the game.
