Make me want to play oblivion.

[blushmoe]

People aren't getting that I am very interested in Action RPGs. I just found their to be NO RPG elements.

 

[Riddle78]

Do you have the computer version? If so,good,because I believe that Vanilla Oblivion is boring. Mod it. go to www.tesnexus.com and get some mods. Find a playstyle that appeals to you. I personally like sneaks with poison and thunderbolts. Also...BE the character. That's my advice.

 

[oplinger]

And you never had fun being the character? Never decided to do things your own way, see what you could do? Or did you just do exactly what you were told?

You make your own fun in non-linear games most of the time. The game gives you a direction and a story, but overall it's up to you to have the fun with it. If you played BG or ME, and just went from main quest to main quest, the game's pretty short and boring. You have to explore. You make the choices. You make your character. You act how you want. You RP a little bit if you want, be in character. You make your own fun.

The game is just a tool to enhance your fun. If I played Fallout 2 with an angry scrunchy face of hatred, I doubt I would have liked it.

I had fun playing the games, not "being" the character. I'm not trying to escape from life or be "immersed" into polygons. I don't LARP in video games. The rules and stats are enough to define the character's role. I don't give game companies 60 dollars so that I have to do the work of making their game fun. I'd just play free Minecraft if I wanted an empty world that I have to extract fun out of.

For example, Divine Divinity was fun, because the quests were well written and interesting and the music was beautiful, and I enjoyed the character building and the art and atmosphere, and it seemed like their could be interesting quests and details around every corner -all things the developers provided. The game was huge and still provided the fun, I didn't have to invent my own imaginary scenarios or gameplay challenges. Same with other open world RPGs like Fallout 2, Ultima 7, FF12, Might and Magic 6.

Maybe Elder Scrolls is the exception and I've been approaching them wrong. But at any rate, I don't think the right sales pitch in the OP's case is "you have to make your own fun."

Haha, I like you. You're a funny person. You took a very extreme approach to that. I never said it was an empty world, or that you had to LARP. Nor did I say you had to "work to make their game fun" I also didn't say you had to make up imaginary scenarios or challenges.

What I did say is you make your own fun because you decide what to do. As I mentioned, many games are really short and boring if you just do as your told. Hell, if you just go about the main quests in Oblivion, it hardly lasts 10 hours, and it's extremely boring and anti-climactic. It's really the world they created, and what you can do in it, quests included, that make it. But if you never see them, why would they make the game fun for you? You have to decide to have the fun that's there. Just because it's there doesn't make it suddenly fun. You have to explore, and execute the quest objectives in a way you find fun.

But that's fine if you lack imagination. No one said you had to immerse yourself in an RPG. You can play it strategically, crunching all sorts of numbers with a very serious face on.

Role Playing Games aren't about playing roles anyway. Where's the fun in getting into a game?

That's kinda the entire point of an open ended RPG though. Choice.

 

[LilithSlave]

This is why Oblivion is worth playing.

 

[blushmoe]

-'I kilt a mudcrab wit a sword! This game dumb!'-
/sarcasm

Well in most games like this, a mage would never be able to kill everything with a sword. I barely even leveled up stats by the end.

 

[poleboy]

Read all the books. A lot of them are actually quite interesting, and they're a lot more fun than the cardboard NPC's. If that sounds boring, I'm not really sure what it is you want.

Also, why shouldn't a mage be able to use a sword? Sure, he'll suck at it at first, but would eventually get better. The concept of a character being unable to do things outside their "class" is arbitrary as hell, more arbitrary than anything that goes on in the ES games IMO.

 

[blushmoe]

Well, no one has actually made me want to play this game in the slightest.
I just thought some fans would tell me it is good because of a high selling point. I wanted to going into this game with a different view, due to when i played it i thought it would be something that would never take off.

Instead, i just got people telling me i am not interested in RPGs (Which i am incredibly) but i guess Meh.

 

[oplinger]

Well, no one has actually made me want to play this game in the slightest.
I just thought some fans would tell me it is good because of a high selling point. I wanted to going into this game with a different view, due to when i played it i thought it would be something that would never take off.

Instead, i just got people telling me i am not interested in RPGs (Which i am incredibly) but i guess Meh.

It's not that, it's just you already don't like it. We can't really change your perceptions. You're not going to like it even if we tell you everything we love about it.

It's kinda on you to try it again regardless of what we say, and just make the most of it, it takes a bit to pick up, but when it does you'll probably have at least a somewhat enjoyable experience.

 

[Thirsk]

Oblivion on Steam: $25
Perfect Weeabolivion Mods: A little bit of free time and effort.
Trolling the heck out of every wRPG loving jRPG/Anime/Asia hater: Priceless.

-snippy the rest-

The portion of my heart dedicated for jRPGs is small, wrinkled and black. I really don't care for them at all. And I'm a shameless (albeit a wee tad oldschool) wRPG-player.

Despite this, I didn't feel trolled at all. After wading myself stupid all across Cyrodil, this actually seemed quite amusing, in the stupid kind of way. Not to be an arse or anything, but I think there are greener pastures as far as trolling go. Religion or something.

But that might just be me.

 

[Mallefunction]

I dunno...I hate the game and yet I am compelled to play it. The frustrations I have with it make me all the more determined to play.

 

[LilithSlave]

Despite this, I didn't feel trolled at all.

That's because you're not a silly fanboy(in the negative sense of the word: "everything I don't like sucks and people who like it suck") who gets upset over nothing.

but I think there are greener pastures as far as trolling go. Religion or something.

But that might just be me.

I dunno. It's funny to me because I think the original facial designs looked horrible, I like Eastern aesthetics in video games. And that part of the fun in Oblivion is the rich modding community. And yet people with rage over something small like video game mods. It's funny to me, to someone rage over something so small.

Religion is a big issue. But getting at people who mod a game that makes it a little less "Western" looking. That's just funny.

 

[theonecookie]

Well you could just mod the shit out of it after all there are mods that fix just about everything you could care for

 

[Zorak the Mantis]

This may help;

 

[SidingWithTheEnemy]

Well, no one has actually made me want to play this game in the slightest.
I just thought some fans would tell me it is good because of a high selling point. I wanted to going into this game with a different view, due to when i played it i thought it would be something that would never take off.

Instead, i just got people telling me i am not interested in RPGs (Which i am incredibly) but i guess Meh.

Well, what do you expect when you started the thread this very way you did.
Oblivion tries something different and has loads of Mods and quite a helpful community. You can have fun with this game if you set up your own rules on how to play it and if you bring an open min, it gives more choice than other games but because of this you might find yourself lost or even irrated.
There are stories where people a trying to be NPC in Oblivion not doing quests at all trying to live a simple life, there are others who played Oblivion while being drunk IRL and the results vary from impressive to hilarious. You have to find your own special key to unlock your doors to oblivion. If you are unable to find it this game isn't simply for you. But this is just my opinion I loved the youtube clips shown here...

 

[LilithSlave]

Well you could just mod the shit out of it after all there are mods that fix just about everything you could care for

And again, you can download MSI Afterburner for free and record some of your sessions to put on youtube.

So that you can tick off hordes of Elder Scrolls purists.

OH NO I AM AN UPSTANDING MAN WHO DOESN'T LIKE NASTY ASIAN GAMES AN ALL. WRPGS ARE SUPERIOR!

WHAT'S THIS? SOMEONE MAKING A FACIAL MOD TO MESS WITH MY GLORIOUS UGLY FACIAL CG IN OBLIVION THAT DOES NOT AFFECT THE GAMEPLAY AT ALL?

ANGRY! ANGRY I AM! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE CRIMINAL WEEABOO. YOU BROKE THE LAW!

All caps.

(Note that I am not generalizing many awesome, awesome people who like Oblivion and wRPGs. Just certain Oblivion fanboys that will attack anyone who plays the game with any Asian modding. Those people are silly.)

 

[LilithSlave]

Eh, I wouldn't call it crap. It's got it's ups and downs depending on what you like in a game.

I respect people who have it as their favourite game ever and people who aren't interested in playing it at all equally.

I guess I'm a little bit happy though that not everybody sings the praises of the game, though. I'm a bit jealous that some of my favourite games from 2006 didn't get as highly rated.

Why wouldn't I call it crap? Because it's a lot like Terraria and Minecraft, it has almost as many things to do, perhaps more. And you can customize it to have things you like, just like Minecraft. And you can buy it for just $20 new on Steam.

There are more important games to play, I think. But $20 for all that customization. Eh, it's okay. Not the most amazing game, not a horrible game. Just a kind of interesting sandbox with plenty of stuff to goof off with. If you like customization and you like Minecraft, Oblivion with mods is good too.

You will most likely pay as much for a t-shirt as you will for Oblivion. And for that price, you get another sandbox with as much to do and as many mods as Minecraft. Why not?

You know, unless you have better/more important games to buy first. And then buy those instead.

 

[Sir Thomas Sean Connery]

I will give you money and sexual favors if you will play The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion from start to finish.

/thread

 

[Amnestic]

Well you could just mod the shit out of it after all there are mods that fix just about everything you could care for

Mods will fix everything !! Gimmie a fuckin break. You can polish a turd, but it's still a turd.

I prefer to view Oblivion as a dinner cooked in a restaurant. The chef may have his own idea of how it should taste, and after sampling it you may agree. However there exist a variety of condiments which you can use with which to improve the meal to your personalised tastebuds. Now to some, the dinner is terrible regardless.

Sometimes you simply cannot please someone - no matter how many condiments you may use - if the dinner itself is flawed from their perspective. Try to feed a Vegan a steak dinner and it's pretty doubtful they'll enjoy it. That's just the way tastebuds are. Everyone's are different, but the freedom to add your own condiments, to pick and choose the flavour from a base dish - that helps make a meal that is truly something to remember.

 

[Vrach]

There is no book but The Lusty Argonian Maid.

I guess I'm missing the joke here?

 

[Machocruz]

But that's fine if you lack imagination. No one said you had to immerse yourself in an RPG. You can play it strategically, crunching all sorts of numbers with a very serious face on.

Role Playing Games aren't about playing roles anyway. Where's the fun in getting into a game?

That's kinda the entire point of an open ended RPG though. Choice.

I just play the games bro. I don't put on faces, or imagine things that aren't there, or make up for the developer's lack of imagination with my own.

Besides, playing around with character builds, strategic battles, etc IS immersive. I'm not being pulled out of the game by stilted animations, every other NPC having the same voice, janky AI, copy-pasted environs, and rats leveling up with me, and all the other unfortunate details you notice when you're focusing on the simulation and not the gameplay.