Making fun of the Dead
- Thread starter Soviet Heavy
- Start date
wow, this is the perfect explanation of insensitivity.MrDeckard said:
Have you ever heard of "Respecting the Dead"
I don't care that you think it's funny, everyone has a different type of humour. But to blatantly say that people who are dead are a perfect joke victim is absolutely heartless. And not only that, but you do it because they can't do anything about it.
Maybe you should invest some time in the philosophy of the "Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should do it" statement.
And of course, if I ask you "If you were in this situation, would you mind if people made fun of your sister/son/mother?" you would state that you don't care because you obviously are a soul-less being.
I only hope someone has the balls to crack a joke at my funeral. Maybe even take a giant dump on my grave. I'll be dead, and it won't matter one whit to me. But for those that would take said giant dump on my grave, you'd have my wife to deal with. Best of luck on that.
The Nielson joke isn't making fun of death. This is really just people showing their appreciation for Mr. Nielson.
I'm actually fine with it. I figure if you insult them while their alive why change your tune just because they're dead.
<youtube=pU17zYt6nBQ>
as true as the day it was performed.
I experienced something similar. My best friend's cousin was dating a truly horrible person for several years, he went to prison once for statutory rape and another time for a time he got drunk and threatened his girlfriend (The cousin), my friend tried to break it up and got his nose broken, so he went to prison for assault as well as breaking probation. He later was released and went back to dating the girl (She has AWFUL taste) he recently Overdosed on Heroin. the next day my friend Said, "I guess he couldn't take seven gram rocks like Charlie Sheen".
If he was a good person I maybe would have been a little irked by the lack of tact but since he was such a vile piece of trash that dragged down the life of everyone around him I can say that I don't get upset when others mock his death.
I may sound callus but everyone is better off after his death.
<youtube=pU17zYt6nBQ>
as true as the day it was performed.
I experienced something similar. My best friend's cousin was dating a truly horrible person for several years, he went to prison once for statutory rape and another time for a time he got drunk and threatened his girlfriend (The cousin), my friend tried to break it up and got his nose broken, so he went to prison for assault as well as breaking probation. He later was released and went back to dating the girl (She has AWFUL taste) he recently Overdosed on Heroin. the next day my friend Said, "I guess he couldn't take seven gram rocks like Charlie Sheen".
If he was a good person I maybe would have been a little irked by the lack of tact but since he was such a vile piece of trash that dragged down the life of everyone around him I can say that I don't get upset when others mock his death.
I may sound callus but everyone is better off after his death.
I'm of the South Park mentality; either everything is ok to make fun of, or nothing is.
'Double standard' would indicate there is a 'standard' to begin with, and as all things subjective, that's impossible with comedy. However, with every action there is a reaction. Sometimes the reaction is a laugh, sometimes it's a boot to the ass, and sometimes, as in this case, it's a warning.
'Double standard' would indicate there is a 'standard' to begin with, and as all things subjective, that's impossible with comedy. However, with every action there is a reaction. Sometimes the reaction is a laugh, sometimes it's a boot to the ass, and sometimes, as in this case, it's a warning.
I had a mate who died of cancer over the course of about a year. He was the most insensitive person about death ever. He would make jokes about it every second he got, and even used it as some form of lazy blackmail.
"Dude, pass me that remote plz?"
"No, you get it.
"Fuck you, I'm the one dying! What a dick!"
...good days.
So yeah, I have no problem with death. It's about as natural as sex and taxes. Therefore it should be less taboo than the entire world seems to think of it. Hell, my grandparents won't even mention their deaths, and yet I have my own funeral planned down to the letter...assuming I die before a bunch of mates.
"Dude, pass me that remote plz?"
"No, you get it.
"Fuck you, I'm the one dying! What a dick!"
...good days.
So yeah, I have no problem with death. It's about as natural as sex and taxes. Therefore it should be less taboo than the entire world seems to think of it. Hell, my grandparents won't even mention their deaths, and yet I have my own funeral planned down to the letter...assuming I die before a bunch of mates.
I'm a fan of Jimmy Carr and Frankie Boyle, does that give you my opinion on these types of jokes? I found it hilarious.
To quote Jimmy Carr: "Relax, they're only words. Nothing bad's happened. It's not like I've dropkicked a cat into an orphan's face"
To quote Jimmy Carr: "Relax, they're only words. Nothing bad's happened. It's not like I've dropkicked a cat into an orphan's face"
the cancer joke was horrible yet funny. me and my friends were creeped out beyond all belief by slender man but we got over it by making really bad jokes about it.
i think of it not as mocking, but as helping to get over her death and make us smile as we remember not how she died but what good she did us with the time she was alive.
i think of it not as mocking, but as helping to get over her death and make us smile as we remember not how she died but what good she did us with the time she was alive.
I think it's all in the context of the death. Leslie Neilson was 84, and had health problems for quite a while. That voice actress was only 40 years old, she had a lot of life to live. Plus, it was cancer. I know lots of people affected by cancer. I lost a friend to cancer. I do not find that to be funny.Soviet Heavy said:
I have heard jokes like that and found them funny before, but that super effective one did not seem right to me at all. It was just so...cold. No context. No disclaimer or condolences. Just a cliched joke out of the blue, and so soon after her death. And as one person further up put it, the "Don't call me Shirley" jokes were not making fun of Neilson's death, they were celebrating his life. The super effective joke WAS making fun of her death. That is the difference.
Yeah...except that's not what the joke did for me. At all. It just made me think of the other people I know affected by cancer, and how much pain they were in and their families are still in. Then I thought about how her family is now feeling the same way. Yeah, some good it did.mcpop9 said:
There are jokes that can be made about death that are funny. That was not one of them. Jokes like that are funny when they pay tribute what they did in life, not how they died.
It's easy to see why people wouldn't like that sort of thing. I agree that it is a bit offensive
However, I wouldn't have much of a problem with that were it directed at me. I want people to remember me as someone who was always laughing at life. I also want the Benny Hill theme played at my funeral. But that's just the kind of person I am.
However, I wouldn't have much of a problem with that were it directed at me. I want people to remember me as someone who was always laughing at life. I also want the Benny Hill theme played at my funeral. But that's just the kind of person I am.
Yeah I am with this post. To add another quote, this one from Dante Sheppard "If you can't make fun of something, it probably isn't worth taking seriously". Who cares, if you are offended grow up and understand people don't have to pander to your hang-ups. Sticks and Stones never stopped being relevant.KittensTiger said:
I leave you with this excellent piece of offence:
Jesus. The chipmunk be mad.ArcticSquirrel said:
I have heard of respecting the dead and while I think it is perfectly appropriate when you need it, if there is the opportunity for humor, take it.
I guess you didn't pick up on the intention of my statement. That was a mild poking of fun to finish off the post. I make jokes about dead people because I believe humor is the greatest thing in the world. Not just because I can.
Final point. If I was in that situation, well of course I wouldn't want people to make fun! That's human nature and the reason I specifically said I wouldn't make such jokes in the presents of someone close to the victim. However, if no one like that is around, joke away! You can't censor yourself just because someone in the world might be offended by what you have to say
This a thousand times.dyre said:
I certainly hold the belief that nothing is too sacred to be made fun of, and if something makes you laugh that is always a good thing. However at the same time, you have to respect the feelings of other people. I don't care how funny a joke is, if my friend died I wouldn't want someone telling me a joke about it straight after I heard the news. That's just being an inconsiderate ****.
So? They're dead. They aren't gonna care.
Although if i was the guy who died of cancer i'd make sure to personally thank the guy who made that joke in the afterlife. If i died of cancer (i'd have skydived out of a plane with no parachute first though) i want at least some jokes made about me
Although if i was the guy who died of cancer i'd make sure to personally thank the guy who made that joke in the afterlife. If i died of cancer (i'd have skydived out of a plane with no parachute first though) i want at least some jokes made about me