Male victims of sexual violence in games, comics, movies, whatever.

[theevilgenius60]

What you're describing reminds me of an episode of Sliders, where they slide to an Earth where "traditional" gender roles were reversed. It was an eye opener, seeing Remy getting treated how he always treats women.

 

[game-lover]

The TV show "Criminal Minds" has touched on sexual abuse in male backstories quite often. With little non graphic flashbacks of what happened to the victim. It tends to be important because that's what turned the guy into a serial killer. I remember clearly this one episode with this guy living with his mother, pushing her around and her hiding his crimes and being a little smothering. And it was revealed she'd abused him almost every night when he was a little boy. So creepy in her possessiveness... upon hearing she would never see her son again--after they got him then went after her for the abuse, she tried to run the police down.

Law and Order: SVU had this young adult male going around and violently raping older women. Like in their 30s and up. Ended up being that when he was a child his female babysitter sexually abused him. But there were no consequences. The end result being he tracked the woman down, tried to get her to admit to what she'd done and apparently when she wouldn't, he brutally murdered her.

I'm reading this book series now where 3 of the main male characters all have rape in their backstories. One male on male courtesy of being held at knife point... one with a single female and other males due to being held as a slave... and one where blackmail is used to make it happen.

 

[LiftYourSkinnyFists]

Oh and the guy from American History X he got turned into a prison ***** the... soapy hard way.

 

[SonOfVoorhees]

I think rape in comment is a way to make the victim more of a victim so the hero has more reason to save them and kill the baddie. Rape is rape, less about sex and more about over powering a person....so the police tell me. It has no place in games if its used to make a person a victim. No game needs this.

 

[Carpenter]

Ok I'm just going to drop this since you are taking everything personally or intentionally trying to derail this thread.

I just pointed out how "female domination fetish" is not comparable to sexual assault, but I guess you just compared them to start a pointless argument. Since you can't carry a conversation without accusations and insults, I think we are done here.

I'm struggling to put in to words exactly how infuriating you are. Atleast in words that wouldn't get me banned.

I wasn't making a comparison to begin an argument. I have explained what I was doing on 4 separate occasions. It's not my fault you seem to be completely incapable of understanding anything.

Either go read the numerous comments explaining what I said or just don't reply.

Man you just need to calm down. It's seriously not healthy to get that angry at somebody you have never even seen over a disagreement online.

Seriously reevaluate what is important in your life. While you are accusing people of attacking you and insulting me, there's people in the world with real problems.

You're not infuriating because you're disagreeing with me. I have pleasant disagreements with people all the time.

You're infuriating because you're completely ignoring what I'm saying and are just replying to some extreme strawman.

It's completely insufferable.

I have not used a strawman argument or ignored what you have said.

I simply choose to stop arguing because you take every disagreement so personally. Seriously, get a life, please. There are people in the world with real problems, a person disagreeing with you is not "completely insufferable" it's just petty and silly.

 

[left hand arnold]

I think it would be better if we just kept rape out of video games entirely.

 

[Schadrach]

The TV show "Criminal Minds" has touched on sexual abuse in male backstories quite often. With little non graphic flashbacks of what happened to the victim. It tends to be important because that's what turned the guy into a serial killer. I remember clearly this one episode with this guy living with his mother, pushing her around and her hiding his crimes and being a little smothering. And it was revealed she'd abused him almost every night when he was a little boy. So creepy in her possessiveness... upon hearing she would never see her son again--after they got him then went after her for the abuse, she tried to run the police down.

Law and Order: SVU had this young adult male going around and violently raping older women. Like in their 30s and up. Ended up being that when he was a child his female babysitter sexually abused him. But there were no consequences. The end result being he tracked the woman down, tried to get her to admit to what she'd done and apparently when she wouldn't, he brutally murdered her.

I'm reading this book series now where 3 of the main male characters all have rape in their backstories. One male on male courtesy of being held at knife point... one with a single female and other males due to being held as a slave... and one where blackmail is used to make it happen.

SVU also had that episode where a woman snuck into two men's apartments, drugged them, shoved objects into them anally, and carved words into their chests. They caught her going after a third victim. Then, in a surprising twist, complete with an "I know we don't usually blame the victim, but..." they realize that the three men in question had raped the woman when she was a girl at summer camp, get them all convicted with serious sentences, then *apologize* to the woman at the end that they couldn't arrange anything lighter for her than a single charge of trespassing. Apparently the moral of the story is that it's OK to go on a spree of violent and sexual assault, but only if it's for revenge and you are female?

 

[Carpenter]

I have not used a strawman argument or ignored what you have said.

Spoiler: snip

'Razor wire pubic hair' is a short bizzaro novel by (I forget) and its pretty much exactly what you described. Think a mad max type world populated by women and ridiculous clones of men with 3 penis' and no arms etc, for the sole purpose of being sex toys for the perverse warrior women. It's sort of interesting in a weird way, but mostly it felt like the author was trying too hard to be different. The dom-sub romance that sprouts out of nowhere is also pretty lame.

Y the last man deals with it in an infinetly more interesting manor.

As for why this sort of thing is rarely ever portrayed with the same frequency as women. Well put simply it wouldn't happen.

In an appocolypse type of situation, men would simply be in more of a position to exert their power over women en mass than vice verssa. As a whole men are stronger and much more physically capable than women. Exceptions to the rule don't break it.

Men do get raped in fiction a lot, but its usually by other men because 1. thats more disturbing to most men and 2. its more understandable. There is however a whole fetish built around being dominated by women.

There are also fetishes based around women wanting to be dominated by men.

Does this mean it's unlikely that a man would rape a woman? The fact that a guy likes being dominated by women doesn't mean he really wants to be raped by women. BDSM Is not rape, or even close to it, it's consensual sex involving simulated domination and submission.

A straw man is a type of argument and is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position.[1] To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.[1][2]

Notice how you implied I had said something that I hadn't?

And as I have explained at-least 6 times by now, I brought up the 1 line reference to female domination because I thought it was relevant to point out that although it may not be common in popular media, it is certainly in parts of our culture.

And you've ignored me saying that 6 times. You'll probably ignore it this time too.

I simply choose to stop arguing because you take every disagreement so personally.

Which is why you're here now, arguing.

Seriously, get a life, please. There are people in the world with real problems, a person disagreeing with you is not "completely insufferable" it's just petty and silly.

Will you knock it off with that shit. You haven't got any idea of what my real life situation is like, how in the hell would you know if I had real problems or not?

Stop detracting from everything I bring up with new and exciting bullshit.

Believe it or not, when someone comes online and misrepresents what you've said and then ignores your multiple explanations.... That gets on your nerves.

Absolutely fuck all to do with someone disagreeing with me, for them to disagree with me they'd have to understand my position, not some hyperbolised misrepresentation of it.

I didn't imply that you said anything you hadn't said. Perhaps you just insinuated that.

You seem quite paranoid and angry. Are you aware of how pointless this all is? How small this silly thing is? Are you even close to understanding the things in this world that are worth being angry over?

Nah let's just argue about this petty stuff. It's been like three days, and you are still spewing obscenities like this actually matters somehow.

 

[Carpenter]

The TV show "Criminal Minds" has touched on sexual abuse in male backstories quite often. With little non graphic flashbacks of what happened to the victim. It tends to be important because that's what turned the guy into a serial killer. I remember clearly this one episode with this guy living with his mother, pushing her around and her hiding his crimes and being a little smothering. And it was revealed she'd abused him almost every night when he was a little boy. So creepy in her possessiveness... upon hearing she would never see her son again--after they got him then went after her for the abuse, she tried to run the police down.

Law and Order: SVU had this young adult male going around and violently raping older women. Like in their 30s and up. Ended up being that when he was a child his female babysitter sexually abused him. But there were no consequences. The end result being he tracked the woman down, tried to get her to admit to what she'd done and apparently when she wouldn't, he brutally murdered her.

I'm reading this book series now where 3 of the main male characters all have rape in their backstories. One male on male courtesy of being held at knife point... one with a single female and other males due to being held as a slave... and one where blackmail is used to make it happen.

SVU also had that episode where a woman snuck into two men's apartments, drugged them, shoved objects into them anally, and carved words into their chests. They caught her going after a third victim. Then, in a surprising twist, complete with an "I know we don't usually blame the victim, but..." they realize that the three men in question had raped the woman when she was a girl at summer camp, get them all convicted with serious sentences, then *apologize* to the woman at the end that they couldn't arrange anything lighter for her than a single charge of trespassing. Apparently the moral of the story is that it's OK to go on a spree of violent and sexual assault, but only if it's for revenge and you are female?

Just imagine if that episode where the guy get rapes was about the guy raping those women as revenge. Wonder if that would rub people the wrong way somehow.

 

[Carpenter]

I didn't imply that you said anything you hadn't said. Perhaps you just insinuated that.

Quite possibly the stupidest thing I have ever seen being said on this site, especially considering I'd just posted proof of your strawman.[footnote]

Spoiler

Spoiler: snip

'Razor wire pubic hair' is a short bizzaro novel by (I forget) and its pretty much exactly what you described. Think a mad max type world populated by women and ridiculous clones of men with 3 penis' and no arms etc, for the sole purpose of being sex toys for the perverse warrior women. It's sort of interesting in a weird way, but mostly it felt like the author was trying too hard to be different. The dom-sub romance that sprouts out of nowhere is also pretty lame.

Y the last man deals with it in an infinetly more interesting manor.

As for why this sort of thing is rarely ever portrayed with the same frequency as women. Well put simply it wouldn't happen.

In an appocolypse type of situation, men would simply be in more of a position to exert their power over women en mass than vice verssa. As a whole men are stronger and much more physically capable than women. Exceptions to the rule don't break it.

Men do get raped in fiction a lot, but its usually by other men because 1. thats more disturbing to most men and 2. its more understandable. There is however a whole fetish built around being dominated by women.

Are you just incapable of admitting you boobed, or do you honestly believe the shite that comes out of your fingers?

You seem quite paranoid and angry. Are you aware of how pointless this all is? How small this silly thing is? Are you even close to understanding the things in this world that are worth being angry over?

You seem to think you're good at trying to hustle people off of a point you've lost by brining up asinine crap that has no baring on the argument and is really only of use to try and defame the person you're arguing with (BTW, we've got a name for that particular informal fallacy. Argument Ad hominem.)

Oh, and you're not that good at them.

Nah let's just argue about this petty stuff. It's been like three days, and you are still spewing obscenities like this actually matters somehow.

Ooooh, oooh. I can do this too.

It's been like 3 days and you're still spewing logical fallacies left right and centre in lue of actual arguments.

And let's be frank, you're still here spewing your shit after 3 days, if this honestly meant nothing to you. You'd have moved on by now.

You know, considering how piss poor your attempts to redirect this argument have been. I'll give you one thing, you're sure as shit entertaining.

Spoiler

I haven't been "boobed" nor would I have any trouble admitting I had, because this is ridiculous and sad. Get a life.

I disagreed with you, clearly you take that very personally, forget it ever happened and grow a spine.

When you say shit like "You seem to think you are good at" with no knowledge of who I am, it shows how paranoid and obsessed you are. Just read your last few comments, you sound like a rabid loon. Get.A. Life.

You win, is that what you want to hear? Whatever you were trying to say with your random comment that men secretly want to be dominated by women, you were right. Whatever that has to do with sexual assault in movies, I agree. Does that make you feel better? Did that make all the pain go away?

 

[Carpenter]

I haven't been "boobed" nor would I have any trouble admitting I had

No, no, no, you haven't 'been boobed'. You simply boobed.

You replied to things I didn't say, if that wasn't intentional it was a boob, if it was intentional you're pathetic. So which one is it?

because this is ridiculous and sad. Get a life.

Funny, you're still here.

Hmm.

I disagreed with you, clearly you take that very personally, forget it ever happened and grow a spine.

No you disagreed with a point that you made up and then attributed to me. Again, strawman. I will have explained this to you around 8 times now. And you haven't done anything to dismiss this barring handwaving it away and saying 'not a strawman' whilst studiously ignoring the parts of my post which prove it is.

So who needs to grow a spine and start addressing this shit? Oh right, you.

When you say shit like "You seem to think you are good at" with no knowledge of who I am, it shows how paranoid and obsessed you are. Just read your last few comments, you sound like a rabid loon. Get.A. Life.

Do you realise how deliciously hypocritical this is? In your last 3 comments you've Told me to 'grow a spine, get a life, I'm paranoid and angry and that I don't have any idea what real problems are and that I need to understand that there are people out there with real problems.'

All without knowing jackall about me. Because all you can really glean from this exchange, is that I really, really fucking hate people who quote someone and then reply to what they'd like to have been there. Not what was there.

You win, is that what you want to hear?

No, I want you to take something away from this. And that is that making a strawman argument and bluntly refusing to address this when you're called on it is utter horseshit.

Put simply, do not quote someone and reply to something they never actually said, and then sit back and act like you've done nothing wrong.

Whatever you were trying to say with your random comment that men secretly want to be dominated by women, you were right. Whatever that has to do with sexual assault in movies, I agree. Does that make you feel better? Did that make all the pain go away?

So after what seems like a thousand comments later, I'm left wondering whether you actually read one of them. Kudos, it's not often I see this kind of stubborn ignorance. Not understanding a post and replying to what you think they said, I could deal with that. But X amount of comments of explaining what the first comment meant and not once have to even tried to understand.

That's just pathetic.

I didn't reply to something you didn't say, you just seem to have selective memory when it comes to what I have said.


Here you are, ranting about some petty disagreement on some pointless thread. do you have serious psychological problems or is this fun for you?

You keep talking about this as if I have committed some horrible atrocity. The thing you are accusing me of I have never done in the first place, but if I had it still wouldn't be some horrible thing.

As you are whining about how it's so horrible that I disagreed with you, somewhere in the world people are starving, women are being raped and murdered and their sons forced into the military to do the same.

Does that matter to you, that this conversation is completely petty and childish? That while you cry and moan about me not agreeing with you, that is happening?

You win kid, I agree with you, this is all super super important and BDSM porn totally exists so you are right about whatever you tried to say. You feel like growing up now?

 

[aba1]

In Punisher max Frank gets raped by a woman who handcuffs him to the bed while he is passed out from being shot. In Berserk both protagonists get raped at one point by three different people and both are left extremely mentally scarred. Guts is raped by a female demon which was very graphic she litterally rips apart his body while doing it leaving him bleeding to death and as a child he was raped by a fellow mercenary. Griffith was sorta raped he let himself get taken advantage of for money so he could save lives but it clearly messed him up bad. I could likely come up with more examples if I started to really think about the stories I have read over time.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

Oz is nothing but male rape and it's a really good series and no, not because of the rape.