The first movie was its best in the first half before they got to the Sleeping Beauty Story proper.bluegate said:I liked how the first movie ended plenty enough, I'm not going to bother watching this one.
I just thought they were ripping off Frozen with Maleficent and Aurora's relationship in the movie and would think they would go even far as to make them a lesbian couple.undeadsuitor said:How did you get that from their one line between eachother?Samtemdo8 said:Are Maleficent and Aurora now a Lesbian Couple?
Aren't they sisters in Frozen though? Haven't seen the movie.Samtemdo8 said:I just thought they were ripping off Frozen with Maleficent and Aurora's relationship in the movie and would think they would go even far as to make them a lesbian couple.undeadsuitor said:How did you get that from their one line between eachother?Samtemdo8 said:Are Maleficent and Aurora now a Lesbian Couple?
But lets drop it here.
That's nice but then why does everybody go on about lesbianism in these movies if "love" ends up being a "we're family" thing?undeadsuitor said:Yeah. Both frozen and maleficent both teach the "true love doesn't have to be romantic" lesson.Johnny Novgorod said:Aren't they sisters in Frozen though? Haven't seen the movie.Samtemdo8 said:I just thought they were ripping off Frozen with Maleficent and Aurora's relationship in the movie and would think they would go even far as to make them a lesbian couple.undeadsuitor said:How did you get that from their one line between eachother?Samtemdo8 said:Are Maleficent and Aurora now a Lesbian Couple?
But lets drop it here.
In frozen, Anna is cursed to turn to ice without an act of true love. She initially seeks out the prince she had fallen in love with at the beginning of the movie but it doesn't work when it turns out he was only using her. So the act of true love comes from a hug from her sister.
In maleficent, Aurora's cursed to sleep forever without true loves kiss. The fairy godmothers push the prince she had taken an interest in earlier in the movie to kiss her, but it doesn't work. The spell only breaks when Maleficent, who had raised her like a daughter and was essentially her godmother, and who had come to love her like a daughter, gave her a maternal kiss on the forehead. Thus true loves kiss. (Because she truly loves her like a daughter)
It's really not hard lessons to grasp
It's a Disney princess movie.Squilookle said:It took me years to get around to seeing Maleficent mostly because I couldn't see them committing to her being pure evil. And they didn't- just giving her a 'woe is me, here's MY side of the story where I'm the hero' version. What a cop out.
Same. I liked the first one and am looking forward to this one. I think Jolie was perfect for this role. Yea, I will likely find it somewhere online. I only go to the cinema these days if I am treating my elderly mother and she picks the movie.Baffle2 said:I quite enjoyed the first one, so I'll probably watch this once it reaches a streaming service - it's not a cinema jobby for me. (And don't do jobbies in cinemas.)
Uhh.. What Mobster movies make me have empathy for them? This is the first I have heard of this.Squilookle said:It took me years to get around to seeing Maleficent mostly because I couldn't see them committing to her being pure evil. And they didn't- just giving her a 'woe is me, here's MY side of the story where I'm the hero' version. What a cop out. They should have played her evil to the hilt and still found empathy for her, the way mobster movies tend to do the best at. Imagine how ground breaking that could have been as a kids film- showing that even the worst people think can think they're doing the right thing.
Anyway- not really interested in a sequel to what they presented. The trailer music was the only good thing about it.
I already understood that Frozen's love was not romantic or lustful in the slightest. I fully get what they were going for.undeadsuitor said:Because people are emotionally stunted fucking morons who can't conceive of the word love being separated from the concept of lustJohnny Novgorod said:That's nice but then why does everybody go on about lesbianism in these movies if "love" ends up being a "we're family" thing?undeadsuitor said:Yeah. Both frozen and maleficent both teach the "true love doesn't have to be romantic" lesson.Johnny Novgorod said:Aren't they sisters in Frozen though? Haven't seen the movie.Samtemdo8 said:I just thought they were ripping off Frozen with Maleficent and Aurora's relationship in the movie and would think they would go even far as to make them a lesbian couple.undeadsuitor said:How did you get that from their one line between eachother?Samtemdo8 said:Are Maleficent and Aurora now a Lesbian Couple?
But lets drop it here.
In frozen, Anna is cursed to turn to ice without an act of true love. She initially seeks out the prince she had fallen in love with at the beginning of the movie but it doesn't work when it turns out he was only using her. So the act of true love comes from a hug from her sister.
In maleficent, Aurora's cursed to sleep forever without true loves kiss. The fairy godmothers push the prince she had taken an interest in earlier in the movie to kiss her, but it doesn't work. The spell only breaks when Maleficent, who had raised her like a daughter and was essentially her godmother, and who had come to love her like a daughter, gave her a maternal kiss on the forehead. Thus true loves kiss. (Because she truly loves her like a daughter)
It's really not hard lessons to grasp
That's true, but it didn't have to be. Not every Disney movie is a princess story, and not every princess has to be 'the good one.'Johnny Novgorod said:It's a Disney princess movie.Squilookle said:It took me years to get around to seeing Maleficent mostly because I couldn't see them committing to her being pure evil. And they didn't- just giving her a 'woe is me, here's MY side of the story where I'm the hero' version. What a cop out.
Pretty much most of them? Remember empathy is separate from allegiance. You can understand a character's motivations without agreeing with them or their actions.Lil devils x said:Uhh.. What Mobster movies make me have empathy for them? This is the first I have heard of this.
Squilookle said:That's true, but it didn't have to be. Not every Disney movie is a princess story, and not every princess has to be 'the good one.'Johnny Novgorod said:It's a Disney princess movie.Squilookle said:It took me years to get around to seeing Maleficent mostly because I couldn't see them committing to her being pure evil. And they didn't- just giving her a 'woe is me, here's MY side of the story where I'm the hero' version. What a cop out.
Pretty much most of them? Remember empathy is separate from allegiance. You can understand a character's motivations without agreeing with them or their actions.Lil devils x said:Uhh.. What Mobster movies make me have empathy for them? This is the first I have heard of this.
I have always understood empathy to mean to share the feelings of another. While understanding their motive, I would think to share those feelings, I would have to somewhat agree with them on some level. From what I have seen of Mobster movies, they think, feel and do the opposite of what I do, so I guess I pretty much view them as mindless Neanderthals for the most part rather than what I would call "empathizing " with them. Mobsters always came across to me as being dumbasses for the most part. They are ignorant, abusive, selfish, careless, gluttonous, jealous, vengeful, greedy.. all the worst in one package taking no care of their impact on the world. It makes it difficult for me to empathize with that mindset.m?pa?thy
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noun: empathy
the ability to understand and share the feelings of another.