Did you read what he did? What a dick. You're looking at a future serial killer, make NO mistake.
Dude don't even stress....because that guy is a c*nt.Varrdy said:Personally I think he went beyond trolling and was in fact arrested for being a c*nt!
Wardy
PS And I use the "C" word only in very extreme circumstances...
I think you hit the nail on the head right there. Its sad that more people don't understand it.Ghengis John said:Pretty sure we've had this conversation around here before. Freedom of speech is intended to allow people to air their grievances with their government or to warn their fellow citizens of offense, trespass or danger that may be committed against them. It is not a free pass to act in any manner that amuses you and does not guarantee you the right to torment your fellow citizens. There are laws against yelling fire in a crowded theatre just as there are laws against disturbing the peace. Just as, in Mr Duffy's favor, there are laws against assault. It's hard to stand on the moral high ground when you're advocating corporal punishment.
SecondedRayne870 said:I think you hit the nail on the head right there. Its sad that more people don't understand it.Ghengis John said:Pretty sure we've had this conversation around here before. Freedom of speech is intended to allow people to air their grievances with their government or to warn their fellow citizens of offense, trespass or danger that may be committed against them. It is not a free pass to act in any manner that amuses you and does not guarantee you the right to torment your fellow citizens. There are laws against yelling fire in a crowded theatre just as there are laws against disturbing the peace. Just as, in Mr Duffy's favor, there are laws against assault. It's hard to stand on the moral high ground when you're advocating corporal punishment.
I think he actually skated by with just a stern warning originally. If I had to guess, the sentencing has as much to do with him ignoring the court's warning as it did with the crimes themselves. Courts and judges just LOVE it when you disregard their instructions.Blablahb said:That's a ridiculous sentence. Almost half a year in prison? Most people committing actual criminal offenses don't even get that.
This is typically the type of case where you sentence with a fine and a few hours community service to get the message across that this is unacceptable, even if it's hardly a criminal offense.
It was harassment, he sent it, personally, to the families.Adam Jensen said:I guess freedom of speech doesn't exist any more. This reminds me of V or Vendetta. They can't throw him in jail for this. Sure he's a ****, but if you allow things like these to happen you're next. The governments are slowly taking away your rights. None of this shit was possible before you gave up your rights to the government in order to feel a little safer from the terrorists. Ah the terrorists, the bogyman for the adults.
It's not freedom of speech, though. you don't have the "freedom" to yell "fire" in a crowded theater, and you don't have the "freedom" to deliberately harass, slander, and defame someone and their family. it's completely different. if i went up to some random person on the street and started calling them various racial and homophobic slurs without end, followed them around, and said horrible things about their family, i would be arrested for slander and libel. the internet is not free from basic laws.Adam Jensen said:I guess freedom of speech doesn't exist any more. This reminds me of V or Vendetta. They can't throw him in jail for this. Sure he's a ****, but if you allow things like these to happen you're next. The governments are slowly taking away your rights. None of this shit was possible before you gave up your rights to the government in order to feel a little safer from the terrorists. Ah the terrorists, the bogyman for the adults.
I never mentioned the first amendment, or America. People are using terrorists as scare tactic all over Europe. As for that act. Just because it exists doesn't make it right. I believe everyone should be able to say whatever the fuck they want about anyone, as long as their goals aren't to incite violence, destruction and hate against a certain group of people (race, nationality, religion etc.). But if you say something about an individual, no matter how big of a dickhead you are for doing that, I think the government shouldn't intervene. Sure he deserves to have his kneecaps broken, but not everything should be government regulated. That's just my unpopular opinion.Glerken said:You realize the first amendment doesn't work like that right?Adam Jensen said:I guess freedom of speech doesn't exist any more. This reminds me of V or Vendetta. They can't throw him in jail for this. Sure he's a ****, but if you allow things like these to happen you're next. The governments are slowly taking away your rights. None of this shit was possible before you gave up your rights to the government in order to feel a little safer from the terrorists. Ah the terrorists, the bogyman for the adults.
Also this was in the UK.
We are clear. I understand what you're saying. I'm not denying what he did was wrong. I'm just stating my opinion that not every human interaction should be controlled by the long arm of the law. I think people should be more independent. In my country you could never sue people for this. A family member of the abused victim would probably beat the shit out of you for that, but we are also not the kind of people who sue for physical assault (unless it's something extreme). Wounds heal, we're not made of glass. People should sometimes be left to deal with these issues by themselves. The entire world seem to be...pussified.InterAirplay said:If I sneak up to your bedroom window and shreik about your jacket being shit and tasteless, then I'm in the wrong. We clear?
You believe one should have the right to harass others without limitation...make their lives a living hell, if you so wish...so long as you're not inciting violence and discrimination?Adam Jensen said:I never mentioned the first amendment, or America. People are using terrorists as scare tactic all over Europe. As for that act. Just because it exists doesn't make it right. I believe everyone should be able to say whatever the fuck they want about anyone, as long as their goals aren't to incite violence, destruction and hate against a certain group of people (race, nationality, religion etc.). But if you say something about an individual, no matter how big of a dickhead you are for doing that, I think the government shouldn't intervene. Sure he deserves to have his kneecaps broken, but not everything should be government regulated. That's just my unpopular opinion.
A week is not the same as a month.DjinnFor said:Assholes exist and they infest the physical world too, but I don't beat them, tie them up, throw them in a cell, then tell them they're spending then next 18 months of their life rotting in it.