Man Charged over Toddler's Rape, Torture Murder.

[Quaxar]

For once, I'd like to quote the article I just linked:
Norway has one of the lowest incarceration rates in Europe at 66 per 100,000 inhabitants, compared to 738 per 100,000 inhabitants in the U.S.

And sure it's a different lifestyle but there's clearly something about the US legal system and its harsh punishment attitude.
People convicted of sexual crimes get put in a public database and their neighbors informed? They did their time, of course they now won't be able to fit back into society if everyone around them is paranoidly watching them all the time plus they are denied a lot of job opportunities.
Not to forget the way some prisons treat their inmates can screw you up pretty well too.

I'm not saying it's due to death penalty alone, I'm saying the whole system is a fucking mess.
If I'm getting bad press for my opinion I might as well go the whole way.

The US legal system is a mess, more concerned with revenge on criminals and not enough focus on rehabilitation for people who it would benefit. I agree that it needs to see serious reform in the way the prison system is handled.

Like not keeping people who can be rehabilitated with people who can't. There is no helping some people, this guy is one of them.

Well, I'm glad we can agree on that though I personally will not judge this case with this bit of information we have.

This is why we have the death penalty.

This is why we must always have the death penalty.

No this is why there should always be a rehabilitating facility for the mentaly sick. Death penalty and other sentences that are designed to punish does nothing. You need sentences that are based on helping, not punishing to truly help society in every way.

You really want to rehabilitate scum like this? Why on Earth?

I don't want to co-exist with pedophilic child murderers, even after they are "rehabilitated". They are not the sorts society should waste time and effort helping. No-one like that deserves a second chance. All they deserve is punishment.

This bastard needs a bullet to the head.

And this, gentlemen, is why the US has one of the highest crime and reoffending rates whereas <url=http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/europe/091017/norway-open-prison>Norway's system makes the country one of the safest in general.

Japan has capital punishment, yet it has one of the lowest murder rates - by some measures lower than Norway.

Norway has a good social policy - which prevents many socio-economic crimes before they happen. However it doesn't stop bastards such as Anders Behring Breivik from gunning down innocent civilians - I believe that he and others like him deserve to die for their crimes, painfully.

The death penalty certainly acts as a 100% effective deterrent to re-offending. A corpse can't murder anyone ever again. Unless it's a zombie, of course.

Even in the most peaceful countries there's always the possibility of a Breivik or Fritzl but they are really too extreme to be examples of any kind.

It's a way to prevent re-offending, yes. But the US "three strike"-system certainly does not present the perfect solution if you can get death sentence for committing petty crimes. And then there's also other factors such as who gets to make life-or-death decisions for other people and where you draw the line but I feel like this is a topic worth its own thread.

Again, my original post wasn't strictly aimed against capital punishment but against the general treatment of criminals in the legal system.

 

[Relish in Chaos]

Yeah, I don't want to think about how it's even possible to rape a toddler. I mean, I haven't seen "A Serbian Film" nor do I wish to, but...not meaning to be crude, but the "parts" would be too underdeveloped to "do" anything with it, so...ah, forget it.

Nothing surprises me anymore; only reminds me that we need to have a revision from the ground up of the justice system. If I had it my way, I'd make sure this guy was raped, tortured and killed himself. Tit for tat.

But of course, I don't have my way and I'm not a rich politician who gets to make those decisions. Oh well.

 

[Asuka Soryu]

I didn't know you could... rape a toddler.

You do know how creepy that avatar of yours makes this post sound... right?

Anyways, Its shit like this that could justify bringing back crucifiction.

Sorry, I couldn't afford the avatar whose expression changes to fit what you type.

 

[Stu35]

I didn't know you could... rape a toddler.

That smiling and winking avatar seems to indicate a sort of creepy insincerity. D:

Also I'm curious as to what the discussion value is? Are we actually expecting someone to popping in and saying "I think raping and murdering toddlers is a good thing 8D"?

Well... I generally try to be a bit controversial on here, so...


Nope... Can't do it.


All I can say is - nobody judge the guy who's been charged until he is found guilty. I hate the stigma that people accused and cleared of such things get that follows them round, it shows just how retarded people really are.

However, if he did do it... May he share Loki's punishment after he was caught following Baldur's death.