Manga Fans?

[GaWi]

Naruto

Sasuke

 

[Firia]

Wah, double trouble posting.

 

[Firia]

BAA: Last Order is still good stuff. It's just not as good as the original. If the original was a 5-star manga, Last Order is a 3.5 star manga.

Totally the opposite for me, i found the original almost a bland shōjo manga in a cyberpunk setting and with shōnen elements, especially at the beginning. Could barely stomach Alita's love interests, both of them, but the first one was totally terrible for me.

Started to get more interesting as it developed... but then it suddenly stopped with one of the most rushed and unsatisfactory ending ever.

Also never understood the fixation all the "old characters" had with the physical base for their minds, panzer krust seemed just like giber jabber for a magical plot device... tons of small stuff like that.


Last Order is much, MUCH more to my liking. Though i understand it may be less emotionally engaging, it's world feels a lot better structured.

To each their own. Last Order suffers (for me), on top of deminished depth of the original cast, from the Drag-On Ball Z complex. Essentially extending a series of events passed their point of peek interest in an interest to keep the story running longer. This insures people buy more books. As an illustrator (in college, nothing published), I can tell you this is a business tactic.

You and I both agree on the unsatisfying ending for the original series. There's a sad story behind it though. The series illustrator and author suffered a nervous breakdown, and wrapped things up just after the Granite Inn incident. (Yaknow, Nova and his "back-up.") He stopped writing and drawing, so it was handed off to someone else to complete. I don't know their name, but they referenced Yokito's notes, and summed it up from there. The events the guest artist rendered in the post-Granite-inn scenario is what Yokito had planned originally for Alita in the series Last Order- only done in fast forward. Very VERY fast forward. Whether or not Alita was meant to meet that situation (keeping it Spoiler-free for the others) after Granite Inn isn't certain; was it Yokito's break down, or a convenient place for him to pull the curtain?

edit; the release of Last Order nullifies the events the Guest Artist contributed.

Anyway, the series maintains my interest despite poor ending of the first, and Drag-On Ball Z'isms of the second.

 

[Queen Michael]

pretty much anything by CLAMP. THEY HARDLY EVER FINISH WHAT THEY START.

Come now, you're being a bit too harsh. What about Wish? And The One I Love? And Magic Knight Rayearth? And XXXhoLic? And Tsubasa? And Angelic Layer? And Chobits? Just sayin' they do finish most of their stuff.

 

[Queen Michael]

Deadman Wonderland: The art style.

Reborn!: You have to watch the anime, the drama cds, all of it to see everything. Where the hell did these other archabellno come from? Why do they look so awesome? What do you mean, I have to do all of this other stuff?!?!?

Loveless: The wangst.

Connan: I realize it's pitched to Japanese, but can't you make at least a case or two solveable to international audiences? Please?!?

I'd say that the biggest problem with Loveless is the way it doesn't make use of the concept of everyone having cat-ears and lising them along with their virginity. That kind of thing would affect society a LOT, but it's ahrdly ever mentioned.

 

[Richardplex]

Is this the right forum?

Give me the original Negima series.

I can't stand the art style from the second.

Isn't that referring to the anime, not the manga? The manga art style hasn't changed, bar being in better quality.

OT: World God Only Knows and.... uuum... can't think of a flaw with this one, little or large.
So Pandora Hearts, because without Yuki Kajiura's beautiful music it loses a lot of its awesomeness. In fact the soundtrack Contractor was what got me into it.

 

[Richardplex]

I can rarely get into manga because it's usually like... three words a page. Clamp is notorious for the "only a handful of words a page but with stunning artwork" stick.

The only manga I've ever tolerated from start to finish was Death Note. I liked seeing a manga where there was actually substantial text and the characters were always in dialog. I guess it's because I hate action heavy/shounen mangas/anime that are basically just lonely male pipe dreams of cool guys fighting other cool guys etc. Honestly, shoujo is just as bad though, but replace drawn out fight scenes with drawn out transformation sequences.

If anyone has any suggestions for me, I'd be thrilled.

Oh, and I like compliations of what are essentially 4komas. The artist has to convey as much as they can in four panels, which is much more satisfying than a guy being shown pulling out his sword taking up an entire page with absolutely no text on it.

Examples of the above are Azumanga Daioh and the Lucky Star manga (abhorrently ugly as the art is).

If a comedy, World God Only Knows, it's a parody about dating sims, though most of the jokes also apply to anime. The only flaw I've read about it is that the filler episodes in the anime aren't as funny as the main episodes, but since the manga doesn't drag the one chapter filler-arc into a 20 minute episode... no flaws.

I also share your disdain for Shounen, and thus I must lurk, carefully watch/reading the gems in the mountain of shovelwear.

 

[tunderball]

Naruto - every character and I mean EVERY character has a legitimate reason for acting the way they do except for Sakura whos entire character is based around liking Sasuke with absolutely no other goals besides this, no depth rubbish character.

 

[Queen Michael]

Is this the right forum?

Give me the original Negima series.

I can't stand the art style from the second.

Isn't that referring to the anime, not the manga? The manga art style hasn't changed, bar being in better quality.

OT: World God Only Knows and.... uuum... can't think of a flaw with this one, little or large.
So Pandora Hearts, because without Yuki Kajiura's beautiful music it loses a lot of its awesomeness. In fact the soundtrack Contractor was what got me into it.

I'd say that the problem with Pandora Hearts is that the English translation keeps suffixes some of the time. The manga's supposed to give you a feel of England. To keep the suffixes creates a Japanese feeling, even though the point of the work is that it's supposed to feel like England, not Japan.

Also, Tsubasa: Resevoir Chronicles and xxxHolicxxx, which get so royally fucked up I swear to god that the writers are doing it on purpose...

Why yes, yes they are.

Ha! I knew it!

Me too. Seriously, did they expect us to understand what was going on? And if they didn't, why write it that way?