Manufacturing Issues Could Cause Wii U Delay

[AzrealMaximillion]

Funny how Nintendo haters and "hardcore gamers" come here and bash Nintendo and the ones who are going to buy it. I came here because I think the WiiU might be something interesting and to see what is maybe going to delay the launch of the new console.

I don't understand people who have no interest in the new console and still clicked the link, just like I don't go on Nikki Minaj or Bieber videos on youtube to comment because I don't have anything to do there. But hey, trollers gonna troll!

It's a forum. A forum is a place for public discussion, no matter the topic. Wanting to see less people have negative opinions of something you like defeats the purpose of such a thing. The beauty of the forum is that you can skip over posts you don't agree with. The fact that you bothered to even "call out" people who don't like the Wii U is baiting for a discussion, though you may not have meant it as such.

I go on forums both to support and criticize different things. If someone came out and didn't like what I liked I would either debate them or just ignore them. I'm not one for seeing a forum where everyone agrees, that's boring. If we can't even debate on the forums because people don't like seeing "haters" coming and "bashing" the topic, then where can we do so?

People are allowed to disagree with one another, and people who openly approve the nature of whatever topic they discuss should be prepared to face the fact that there are people who don't share the same views.

 

[Evil Smurf]

1. People, please stop using the word "hardcore" It makes me annoyed.
2. Nintendo will release the Wiiu with a strong line up of games so as to avoid the problems that the 3ds and Vita had
3. Patience people, this is coming.

 

[Guffe]

snappitysnip

It's a forum. A forum is a place for public discussion, no matter the topic.

people who don't like the Wii U is baiting for a discussion, though you may not have meant it as such.

I might've said it in a pretty unclear way... (English isn't my mothertongue and expressing myself via text isn't the easiest of things for me)
Of course the forum is a place to raise discussion and I have done that and do it all the time.
But what I was aiming for was more of the trolling kinda way, that's why I used the word "hater" as in someone who isn't going to change his mind but came here just to aggravate people.
Some of the first posts on this thread were something like:
"They run out of analog sticks?"
"Nobody' going to care abuot this"
"Slow news today?"

Stuff like this isn't going to raise discussion, these people came here to get their forum post meter up with 1 post and maybe hope for a Nintendo Fanboy to start screaming at them so they could say how silly and childish all Nintendo users are.

I'm all up for discussion and debating, but I'd like to keep it classy and not start it by trying to troll a certain group "just because I feel like it".
Just like you did, you quoted my post and gave a good reply on what you tought about my post, and I'm all good with that because the way you did it. Solid, good, calm and classy discussion.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

snappitysnip

It's a forum. A forum is a place for public discussion, no matter the topic.

people who don't like the Wii U is baiting for a discussion, though you may not have meant it as such.

I might've said it in a pretty unclear way... (English isn't my mothertongue and expressing myself via text isn't the easiest of things for me)
Of course the forum is a place to raise discussion and I have done that and do it all the time.
But what I was aiming for was more of the trolling kinda way, that's why I used the word "hater" as in someone who isn't going to change his mind but came here just to aggravate people.
Some of the first posts on this thread were something like:
"They run out of analog sticks?"
"Nobody' going to care abuot this"
"Slow news today?"

Stuff like this isn't going to raise discussion, these people came here to get their forum post meter up with 1 post and maybe hope for a Nintendo Fanboy to start screaming at them so they could say how silly and childish all Nintendo users are.

I'm all up for discussion and debating, but I'd like to keep it classy and not start it by trying to troll a certain group "just because I feel like it".
Just like you did, you quoted my post and gave a good reply on what you tought about my post, and I'm all good with that because the way you did it. Solid, good, calm and classy discussion.

I hear you, and I appreciate the fact that you enjoy a healthy discussion. The trolls here are newer escapists, they'll learn soon enough (with hope). I think as a forum we have a community responsibility to tell the trolls and fanboys to leave their shenanigans at the doorstep because that crap isn't tolerated on this site. This isn't gamespot or destructoid.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

1. People, please stop using the word "hardcore" It makes me annoyed.
2. Nintendo will release the Wiiu with a strong line up of games so as to avoid the problems that the 3ds and Vita had
3. Patience people, this is coming.

1.The word hardcore will not simply stop being used because people don't like it. There is such a thing as a "core" gamer and a "casual" gamer, that much cannot be argued anymore. The market for casual games has been created by companies like Rovio and Zynga. But answer me this, what annoys you about the use of the word "hardcore"?

2.The WiiU's line up is already up, and its not that strong. In fact its mostly ports of ganes that have been out for months to at least a year. That and sequels. There are a couple of new IPs but the Wii U doesn't have a strong killer app.

3. People are patient. Not many people are saying that they are totally in dire need of this console. The raving hype that the Wii had isn't here this time.

 

[TJC]

*sigh*
Nintendo, after decades, why do you still hate Europe? I thought after Xenoblade Chronicles and Last Story that you are on our side now and after decades of SNES and N64 games that never made it past the Atlantic Ocean it is OUR turn now to enjoy incredible games while leaving Americans nothing but costly imports and crappy youtube videos.

But no, we get screwed again although we turned out to be a just a valueable market as the US and with the strength of the ? (which is declining, yes...) it would've been smart to cater to our needs.

Alas, we're destined to suffer for late games and console releases... at least we still have Australia... those suckers >


Frankly, I'm curious about the WiiU. Aside from a completely asinine name, it's a great concept and I'm in a situation where I just have t buy it. I have a Wii with three Wiimotes and a lot of gamers friends and a couple of non-gamer friends who'd like to get into vidja games but never have a chance to catch up with us regular gamers.

I honestly think that the WiiU will have some sort of snowballing effect in its sales, relying on a LOT of mouth to mouth propaganda. It will be a slow start and only a year later (probably after the first price cut) it will see decent sales that will steady be in profitable level. That is, if Nintendo can keep up a decent game release schedule.

 

[ZehMadScientist]

Eh... I wasn't going to get this at launch myself, but Nintendo is seemingly making it a habit of theirs to delay anything for us undeserving Europeans.

Ok Nintendo, give me a new F-Zero game where I can play online with 29 others, and I'll forgive you.

 

[Shia-Neko-Chan]

oh no. How will I sit in front of my tv with a large and uncomfortable iPad controller with terrible generic zombie shooter that everyone only wants to play because it was the only half-decent game (even though it's extremely generic) at e3 this holiday season?

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

Firstly, consoles have always had previous gen titles as launch titles. The 360 had Gun, Call Of Duty 2, Fifa 06, Need For Speed: Most Wanted, Splinter Cell: Double Agentn, Tony Hawks, Tiger Woods, NBA and Madden as launch titles, all of which were also available on the Xbox.

The 360 also actually had hardware upgrades compared to the previous gen, unlike the Wii U.

You're deliberately misrepresenting how consoles launch. Consoles have always used previous gen games to bolster their library, before the big guns start to appear later on. Gears Of War didn't appear until over a year after the 360 had launched. Halo 3, the console's biggest exclusive, didn't release until two years after the 360 launched.

The 360 is a bad example of how to launch in terms of games because it also came out a year before the competition. The PS3 launched with the Uncharted and Resistance franchises immediately. The Wii U should have more original IPs to sell at launch because I highly doubt that Mass Effect 3 is going to sell units.

The Wii U has Pikmin 3 and ZombiU exclusively at launch, both of which are unique enough in gameplay and design to warrant attention from gamers, and both of which could become killer apps if they end up as good as promised. It also has Nintendoland to provide as an attraction for the millions of people who enjoyed Wii Sports, and Project P-100 to provide some Wii U exclusive craziness.

Pikmin 3 is a sequel that's coming 8 years too late. It's no longer unique anymore as there are other games like it like Overlord, and Little King's story. Hell, even Project P-100 looks like it uses a decent chunk of the Pikmin formula. The games aren't as unique as you're painting them. And to be honest ZombiU seems to be just another zombie FPS with the gimmicky tablet controls attached.

And as for Nintendo land, I highly doubt that people are stoked for yet ANOTHER party game/mini game comp. People enjoyed Wii Sports yeah, but it came for free with the Wii. People also got bored of Wii Sports pretty quick.

3. People are patient. Not many people are saying that they are totally in dire need of this console. The raving hype that the Wii had isn't here this time.

Funny, because the millions upon millions of views on Youtube regarding Wii U stuff would bed to differ. The E3 2011 trailer alone has got 6 million views, more than any of the trailers for Modern Warfare 3. That to me suggests there's a lot of hype for the console.[/quote]1. You're using YouTube as a tracker for hype? Ok then, if you really want to use the worst internet community as your point maker then by all means go ahead, but at least get your facts straight.

The Wii U reveal trailer is at 6.9 million views:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e3qaPg_keg

The MW3 trailer (i don't know why you're bringing up MW3 as its already out) has 23 million views:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coiTJbr9m04

Now the Black Ops 2 trailer has 24 million views:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3tedlWs1XY

So by using your logic, you've effectively told me that the hype for the Wii U is significantly lower than 2 copy paste shooters. Keep in mind that YouTube views make horrible market research as the people who watched the aforementioned videos are(and probably have) going to purchase the product shown.

You've not made an argument for the Wii U that makes it sound as great as YOU want it to be.

 

[AzrealMaximillion]

oh no. How will I sit in front of my tv with a large and uncomfortable iPad controller with terrible generic zombie shooter that everyone only wants to play because it was the only half-decent game (even though it's extremely generic) at e3 this holiday season?

Yeah hear you on that. Between ZombieU, Pikmin3 and Project P-100 (which could just be called Pikmin on even more LSD) there's not much on the Wii U that says "buy me"..