Jak The Great said:
razer17 said:
no one of main aims of christian marriage, and remember that's what most of us refer to as marriage, was holy matrimony between two people, and one of the main aims was to allow sex and creation of babies under the watchful eyes of God. just to quote "the origin of marriage may lie in a man's need for assurance as to paternity of his children"
My Bad, I thought we were talking about marriage in general terms of our society today. I would research some data regarding the divorce rate between religious groups and non religious groups, but I am at work, and that would take more time than is necessary. If I remember correctly from my sociology classes in College there was a fairly large gap between the divorce rate between the devout and non religious.
Again I have no proof on this, and I know it, so don't flame me on that. but when it really comes down to it, marriages fail because of a lack of commitment (again excluding extenuating circumstances)
About the religious rates, I'm also not quite sure. I've also heard about 50% across the board, but for general Christianity I've heard about 50-60%. Which as a Christian myself is pretty embarrassing. I go to a small Christian Liberal Arts college, around 1800 traditional day school students, and from what I heard from the administration and faculty is that currently 60% of our students come from divorced families. So, that may be, although the demographic for that isn't the best as my school's demographic is is mostly affluent Caucasians, with a protestant denominational background. Which excludes a good portion of what constitutes "Christianity". I don't really have any other information on other religious groups, not even anecdotal, so I won't really comment here.
Yes I would agree, lack of commitment, although that doesn't necessarily imply that each spouse has no commitment, i.e. in the case of extenuating circumstances such as child abuse or spousal abuse. Or at times when one partner gets to the point where one sees the other as "unlivable", or a pain in the ass to live with, which would be my own parents, although from my experience in most those cases one or both of the partners just needs to grow the hell up. It seems like true loving commitment past just "O she/he is sick today" or "We're going through a little bit of a tough spot", is pretty rare, at least from the communities I grew up in.
So, from that sense it would make sense that cohabitation is the answer, except for the fact from my social studies courses citing cohabitation as a factor for increased likelihood of divorce, if that couple eventually gets married. So in that sense, it's either one or the other, not to say that you are destined to become a statistic. That and all the pain and problems divorce brings, emotional, social, and financial for the family and community. So, I dunno. I don't know how long the average cohabiting relationship lasts, other than purely anecdotal evidence, so with the information I have they aren't very comparable.
And... back to the original topic. I would like to get married someday. It's part of what I believe in and I just love the idea of marriage, from the way I understand it. A solemn vow of commitment to a person, not only them being committed to you, but I have the opportunity to be committed to someone in a loving relationship and take care of them. Kids come eventually too

That and the whole legal bonuses are pretty cool too, although they don't really factor into the decision. Now I just have to put my relationship back together
