martial arts, hard hitter problems

[farscythe]

right.. i used to practice muay thai, and id have great fun with it, but every time i'd get to spar i'd end up getting told off for hitting to hard.

thing is i dont't think i can do anything about it.
i dont clench my fists or follow through (threw?)but..if i want to actually hit anyone i have to keep the speed up and apparently thats enough to get me warned off.

im well aware that just my weight adds to the punches(round 220 lbs) but i just dont know how i could possibly mitigate the damage whilst keeping up the pace..(hell its a spar i'm not a sand bag)

so i guess my queston is... got any tips?
alternatively.. got the same issue?

(im looking to take up martial arts again but unless there's a way round my hits my only option is boxing and tbh..fuck that i like my nose)

 

[Boris Goodenough]

Don't add weight to your punches would be a start. Recoil sooner.

What gloves size (lbs. that is not M/L) do you use?
What about your kicks? Roundhouse/push kicks etc.

Edit: What makes it hard to not add so much speed into your punches?

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Why not take up a martial art that doesn't involve a lot of striking, something like aikido or jiu jitsu? That way you won't have to worry about accidentally punching someone too hard during a spar.

I mean, I think it's pretty dumb to practice a martial art that's mostly about striking but not being able to actually practice strikes. What's the point to sparing and not having any follow through to your punches, you aren't practicing anything that way. Does your dojo not have safety equipment or something?

 

[farscythe]

Don't add weight to your punches would be a start. Recoil sooner.

What gloves size (lbs. that is not M/L) do you use?
What about your kicks? Roundhouse/push kicks etc.

Edit: What makes it hard to not add so much speed into your punches?

i use 16 lbs gloves

and the main issue with speed is that most people round here are smaller and lighter than me and as such dance circles around me if i dont get the speed up

(edit) on kicks... im good with the quick kicks to the shins and push kicks but as soon as a rotation is involved the same issues prop up

 

[farscythe]

Why not take up a martial art that doesn't involve a lot of striking, something like aikido or jiu jitsu? That way you won't have to worry about accidentally punching someone too hard during a spar.

I mean, I think it's pretty dumb to practice a martial art that's mostly about striking but not being able to actually practice strikes. What's the point to sparing and not having any follow through to your punches, you aren't practicing anything that way. Does your dojo not have safety equipment or something?

plenty safety equipment but i think there's a lot of fear of sueing..or failing that maybe they're worried a bruise or two will scare off people.

but yes i agree with you (and also on the other point... i like the striking types of martial arts it just works for me i've tried judo and didnt care for it much..and ive tried karate but all the shouting irritates me)

 

[Cerebrawl]

Why not take up a martial art that doesn't involve a lot of striking, something like aikido or jiu jitsu? That way you won't have to worry about accidentally punching someone too hard during a spar.

As someone who's done a lot of Ju Jutsu... that behavior is even worse when it comes to joint-locks, takedowns, etc.

"Oh I just wanted to do this wrist-lock at full speed... hey you should have a look at that, it looks broken".

 

[Boris Goodenough]

Well ok I see your issue now. Well Muay Thai usually attracts the smaller of build, not nesseceraly height.
MMA usually has the big guys. What about that?

Oh, you're in the beginner/medium classes?

Also sueing? Really? At a place where you are supposed to punch each other? Hmm, I will never understand that mindset.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

Why not take up a martial art that doesn't involve a lot of striking, something like aikido or jiu jitsu? That way you won't have to worry about accidentally punching someone too hard during a spar.

As someone who's done a lot of Ju Jutsu... that behavior is even worse when it comes to joint-locks, takedowns, etc.

"Oh I just wanted to do this wrist-lock at full speed... hey you should have a look at that, it looks broken".

Hey, he specifically talked about punching, and not punching solves the problem. Other problems arising from my advice would be other problems.

 

[farscythe]

Well ok I see your issue now. Well Muay Thai usually attracts the smaller of build, not nesseceraly height.
MMA usually has the big guys. What about that?

Oh, you're in the beginner/medium classes?

Also sueing? Really? At a place where you are supposed to punch each other? Hmm, I will never understand that mindset.

mma is tempting but i like the the rigidity and politeness of muay thai and such (its a gentlemans sport yes )

and yes im in the beginner class ( done it for a year)problem is im te only heavy weight/super heavy weight round here.

as far as the sueing goes...yeah..it s gaining ground .
my boy got hurt never mind that he signed up for it i want money. i hate it

 

[Boris Goodenough]

mma is tempting but i like the the rigidity and politeness of muay thai and such (its a gentlemans sport yes )

and yes im in the beginner class ( done it for a year)problem is im te only heavy weight/super heavy weight round here.

as far as the sueing goes...yeah..it s gaining ground .
my boy got hurt never mind that he signed up for it i want money. i hate it

I would ask them to move you up to where there are some that can take pusnishment, or willing to at least (yes I am aware they will have to go technically soft on you).
The Muay Thai'ers I know are tough as nails (granted they are at competition level) so it's a bit odd hearing about your situation, their christmas dinners entail low kick competitions and sparring.

 

[farscythe]

i will ask if they can move me up..and to be fair mostly its the the trainers that get on my case.
the muay thai ers im up against dont complain they just retaliate a little harder

 

[Cerebrawl]

The Muay Thai'ers I know are tough as nails (granted they are at competition level) so it's a bit odd hearing about your situation, their christmas dinners entail low kick competitions and sparring.

Competition level Muay Thai'ers are insane. A former world champion settled down near a childhood friend of mine, he's still peeing red years later. Kidneys pretty beat up, to say the least.

 

[mollystratus]

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[Jacques Joseph]

As an aikidoka who´s somewhat practiced striking and punching as well I´d say there are ways of hitting quickly, yet lightly. It takes time and practice and is more difficult than going all-out but on the other hand, it helps learn control a lot and if you get the grip of it, your full-strength punches become both more accurate and even stronger. So I´d say keep working on it and try to find a way to hit that works. Your trainers should help you with that.

 

[Boris Goodenough]

Learn martial arts like taekwondo or aikido as these don't involve much striking unlike muay thai or krav maga. Join any taekwondo school where they could train you better with your strikings and discipline.

We in Krav Maga learn to only mark when we do techniques (with room to follow through on), it's only when it's sparring that we actually strike our opponent, we do a lot of groin kicking in our techniques though.