He probably thinks that because of Hwoerang from Tekken, which he does is more like Odho Kwan with the judo grapples taken out.psypherus said:
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I've taken a few martial arts and I have forgotten everything but although I never learned it Jeet Kune Do always looked really cool.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeet_Kune_Do
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeet_Kune_Do
Lord Monocle Von Banworthy said:
i am very skinny and very weak, i cant grapple an empty plastic water bottle let alone a human being. on that note i have long arms and legs, so i can kick you from half way around te room.
in my defense i never payed attention to the fighters style when playing tekken, i just picked hworang and smashed kick and won most of the time. so i had no idea that hworang and tae-kwan-do had anything to do with each other.ColdStorage said:
i just know its legs mainly because i had friends take tae-kwon-do and whenever they would show off new moves it would be some form of kick.
Its less what you train and more how you train. You need a balance between practicing techniques and none pre arranged sparring/fighting. You also need contact. If youre not getting hit you'll freeze if someone hits you in the street.
My advice? Look for an instructor you like who does the above. I personally train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, kickboxing and free style karate. On different nights of course.
Find something you enjoy.
My advice? Look for an instructor you like who does the above. I personally train Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, kickboxing and free style karate. On different nights of course.
Find something you enjoy.
hmm, well the only thing that got my attention so far was JKD, and mind you its not because of bruce lee, its because i like the philosophy of training for street fights and then tweaking that to train for tournaments, since im in the military clearly i am more interested in self defense than anything.
this looks promising, ill have to check it out once im back in hawaii: http://jkdunlimited.com/
this looks promising, ill have to check it out once im back in hawaii: http://jkdunlimited.com/
well kickboxing is the only martial art that I ever found useful in my short stint in trying various martial arts but as thats a no. Well all you need to know to defend yourself if how to throw and take a punch so boxing perhaps. To gain muscles hit the gym.
Im 6' and 150 lbs. Im slim and tall. It works for BJJ grappling. Triangles/omaplatas/etc come on easy, body triangles are a breeze, rubber guard works well and the guard game feels like second nature in general. Long limbs can be great.vampirekid.13 said:
Its not all about being a meat head. Technique, determination and stamina are equally important.
There are 283 million firearms in the US.
That's almost one for every single person.
I seriously doubt Bruce Lee could incapacitate a gunman at anything more than close range.
Since I assume that the world population is comprised of people who are NOT Bruce Lee, well, whats the point of learning martial arts for self-defense?
For excercise, there are ALOT of things better than martial arts. Swimming, for example.
That's almost one for every single person.
I seriously doubt Bruce Lee could incapacitate a gunman at anything more than close range.
Since I assume that the world population is comprised of people who are NOT Bruce Lee, well, whats the point of learning martial arts for self-defense?
For excercise, there are ALOT of things better than martial arts. Swimming, for example.
First, you can't decide what's good for you. You need an expert's look into your abilities and physique.vampirekid.13 said:
Second, once this someone knows what's good for you, they should tell you what to play.
Third, just a hint, if you wanna play something balanced, mixed martial arts are a good solution.
And there are many tremendously more complete martial arts than TaeKwonDo, like KukSoolWon, if you are into Korean martial arts.
And as for Japanese martial arts, you could fetch for a Sensei of Kyokushinkai Karate. Very powerful and great all around fighting system. JuJitsu is good and efficient too. And easier to find.
And as for Chinese fighting system, i would recommend Yip Man's Wing Chun school. Very effective defense and very aggressive too. Probably the most defensive of all.
If you had thought of Thai arts, then Muay Thai (Not just Kick-Boxing) is a very balanced system. Very very nice and aggressive. Also offense and defense are fairly balanced, with the balance slightly tipped towards offense.
But i can't quite say which one will suit you most? Someone has to test your abilities first.
And remember: what you want, is not always what you really need.
You can find a 300 lbs block loving passionately the Capoeira acrobatic style, but in reality, what fits him is maybe Judo.
And if you want to get deep in martial arts, and start combining your own ways (through a master of course) and discovering yourself more, it is through JKD. But that if you are a martial arts maniac. Or want to be a holder of 2 PhD's in martial arts.
And good luck.
great advice thank you, but where would i get someone that tells me honestly what fighting style best suits me instead of going "kk come to mah dojo i teach, 100 per lesson, come"MagnumJoe said:
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I'm probably not the best advisor in this field, being that I've only been studying Renshinkai Karate for somewhere around eight months, but for what it's worth, I'll throw in my two pennies.
If it's a fighting ability you're after, then a varied class is definitely your best bet. The course I'm studying encorporates various strikes and blocks, often practiced through one-on-one sparring, as well as self-defense grappling. It's also good to study in a friendly environment, where for all the blows you recieve you gain knowledge as a result, and you learn just as much from the students as you do from the teacher.
Beyond that, all I can really say for style is to just go for something you feel comfortable with, it really doesn't matter.
If it's a fighting ability you're after, then a varied class is definitely your best bet. The course I'm studying encorporates various strikes and blocks, often practiced through one-on-one sparring, as well as self-defense grappling. It's also good to study in a friendly environment, where for all the blows you recieve you gain knowledge as a result, and you learn just as much from the students as you do from the teacher.
Beyond that, all I can really say for style is to just go for something you feel comfortable with, it really doesn't matter.
Vampirekid, striking is even less suited to weak people than grappling. That's great that you can kick somebody from across the room with your chicken legs, but will it matter? If you don't have the muscle and weight you need to put into that kick to make it work, you're unlikely to even connect, let alone do damage. Still from how you describe yourself I'd recommend Muay Thai if you are really interested in making your reach and light frame work for you.
Physical condition is probably more important than training anyway (and I don't mean looking like an underwear model...look at Fedor). If you really want to have any ability, you HAVE to address your physical shortcomings too.
Also, tell me your city and I'll make a list of a half dozen schools in your area for you.
Physical condition is probably more important than training anyway (and I don't mean looking like an underwear model...look at Fedor). If you really want to have any ability, you HAVE to address your physical shortcomings too.
Also, tell me your city and I'll make a list of a half dozen schools in your area for you.
The best advice I can give is to learn search-button-fu. It's an ancient and mystical art of being able to use the bloody search tool to find threads which already ask the very question you're seeking answers to.vampirekid.13 said:
That said, there are benefits and drawbacks to any style, and there is no "best" way to go. TKD tends toward sport more than pure self-defense, which isn't a bad thing in and of itself. Shotokan is mostly strikes, with some grappling and kicks. Aikido is mostly grappling (it's the basis of Krav Maga), with some strikes, and few kicks. But, if you're taking a martial art planning on getting into fights, any sensei worth his salt will bounce your ass out of the dojo anyway. You don't take it so you can fight, you take it for the discipline, exercise, and self-awareness. I do Shotokan Karate, and Aikido, and I can tell you that it's a ritual first, discipline second, exercise third and combat last.
Think about the order you listed your goals. You want to defend yourself (combat), gain muscle (exercise), and lastly discipline. If that's your perspective on it, you're approaching it from the wrong mindset. Especially in this day and age, there's no real reason to be able to fight more than at a most basic level, so any real training has to be for reasons other than "I want to be able to defend myself". You're not Jack Bauer
Aikido is a decent martial art should you ever need to defend yourself in a situation has gotten out of hand.
It all depends on the sensei you have, but if you have a sensei trains with daggers and bokens aswell and you can learn to master the art, then you have the skills to actually defend yourself in dirty real life situations, without getting into legal trouble.
In comparison Judo is useless if someone comes at you with a stick or a knife.
Now karate and tae can help you to seriously injure your attacker, but that's not what you will want, especially when nobody can prove who started the fight.
It all depends on the sensei you have, but if you have a sensei trains with daggers and bokens aswell and you can learn to master the art, then you have the skills to actually defend yourself in dirty real life situations, without getting into legal trouble.
In comparison Judo is useless if someone comes at you with a stick or a knife.
Now karate and tae can help you to seriously injure your attacker, but that's not what you will want, especially when nobody can prove who started the fight.
From what I've heard - the very best martial arts are the ones the military uses. The Israeli military has an extremely brutal and devestating form of martial arts, but that's geared more towards killing people, rather than defense, and I've heard that the "training sessions" can be pretty painful. The Chinese military also have a "science-based" martial art, again, I don't know how you would train yourself in it.
Kung-Fu, Karate, and all that stuff is pretty good, but a lot of it is ceremonial. It can still be applied to the real world effectively, but in a real fight you don't bow and spar. In a REAL fight, you do whatever you can to beat your opponent.
If you want to learn self defense, for the real world, you'd be best learning the same stuff the police and army use. It will protect you in 99% of cases.
And remember all those "mixed martial arts" contests? Notice how they almost always dissolve into grappling and wrestling? So..... yeah.
I've done a bit of karate - I wasn't really impressed. Martial arts movies and books would have people believe that a martial arts expert can somehow defeat 20 guys in a room - which is complete nonsense - karate is certainly useful, but even the best martial arts experts can't take down a room full of adult males without getting quite badly hurt or losing completely.
When considering a way to defend yourself - Be Practical. If you know any good friends in the army or the police, get them to teach you. I'm pretty sure there are some martial arts gyms that do teach military style fighting, which is always the most effective form of fighting, in a real world situation.
Kung-Fu, Karate, and all that stuff is pretty good, but a lot of it is ceremonial. It can still be applied to the real world effectively, but in a real fight you don't bow and spar. In a REAL fight, you do whatever you can to beat your opponent.
If you want to learn self defense, for the real world, you'd be best learning the same stuff the police and army use. It will protect you in 99% of cases.
And remember all those "mixed martial arts" contests? Notice how they almost always dissolve into grappling and wrestling? So..... yeah.
I've done a bit of karate - I wasn't really impressed. Martial arts movies and books would have people believe that a martial arts expert can somehow defeat 20 guys in a room - which is complete nonsense - karate is certainly useful, but even the best martial arts experts can't take down a room full of adult males without getting quite badly hurt or losing completely.
When considering a way to defend yourself - Be Practical. If you know any good friends in the army or the police, get them to teach you. I'm pretty sure there are some martial arts gyms that do teach military style fighting, which is always the most effective form of fighting, in a real world situation.
Since martial arts are more sport than useful skill these days, I picked fencing. I'm fairly unlikely to ever partake in a sword fight, but at least I know that I could probably win a duel with 99% of the world, should it come to that. . . Plus, the sport of fencing is great for people with short attention spans as an entire bout is guarnteed to last no more than 9 minutes.
Why would the martial arts the military uses be the best? Militaries use weapons. Don't believe the hype. A special forces badass would prefer to kill you with explosives, a scoped rifle, an assault rifle, a handgun, a bayonet, a knife, a piano wire, a pointy stick, and possibly his bare hands in approximately that order. I always laugh when I hear "_____ is a Marine Corps sniper so you should listen to what he has to say about street fighting."
Hand to hand training is useful for physical exercise and building esprit de corps, but "the Army uses it" is a terrible recommendation for a martial art, especially since a large American military base (vampirekid is American, right?) will have several martial arts clubs on it all of which are technically "training soldiers" for a given value of "training" and "soldier."
Hand to hand training is useful for physical exercise and building esprit de corps, but "the Army uses it" is a terrible recommendation for a martial art, especially since a large American military base (vampirekid is American, right?) will have several martial arts clubs on it all of which are technically "training soldiers" for a given value of "training" and "soldier."