Marvel's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Review - Episode 11: The Magical Place

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mrverbal

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Supposition: Mike Peterson is in a room controlled by shield, not centipede. We know they just crashed a bunch of labs and took much of 'pede's technology. Why WOULDN'T they try and build themselves a super soldier who was forced to obey?

Alternate supposition: Parts of shield have been running Centipede all along. This makes less sense, but might still work.
 

Crazy Zaul

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So they might be going back to the 'SHIELD are kind of a bunch of dicks' thing they had going on in the old Spiderman cartoons...
 

aaron552

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Smiley Face said:
After seeing the answer to the whole 'What Happened to Coulson' issue, it raises a question: If the Clairvoyant really is able to just look into people's heads and see what they're up to, and knows everything that S.H.I.E.L.D. is up to, then it should have already known what happened to Coulson. I mean, it goes 'Oh, that guy who was dead isn't dead, I want to know why', and then the next logical step should be to look into Nick Fury's head, and gradually progress through all SHIELD personnel until you get an answer. Which, given the explanation we have, should have worked.

So either a) the Clairvoyant isn't actually clairvoyant, b) it can't read Fury and the doctors because of countermeasures or power limitations, c) it was trying to achieve some other aim with Coulson, or d) there's a big damn plot hole.
I'm going with option a (and a little b) for these reasons:

* It's been repeatedly stated that Telepaths and Telekines don't exist
* We don't actually know that "The Clairvoyant" is telepathic. We only infer that from the name.

My theory is that the Clairvoyant simply has access to all, or nearly all, forms of electronic communication, surveillance, and storage. This is how he would know "what the President dreams about". This could be obtained via hacking, sleeper agents (a favorite of CENTIPEDE), etc. He could even be some form of Artificial Intelligence.

Speaking of sleeper agents,

mrverbal said:
Alternate supposition: Parts of shield have been running Centipede all along. This makes less sense, but might still work.
Or perhaps CENTIPEDE (or the Clairvoyant) has sleeper agents in S.H.I.E.L.D. or, even better, has control (via those creepy prosthetic eyes) over extremely high-ranking S.H.I.E.L.D. people.
 

aaron552

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CrazyGirl17 said:
Also, it looks like the "Coulson as The Vision" theory might be just a red herring.
I wouldn't be on that yet. "The neurological damage was... catastrophic". Sounds like his brain was toast. What if (going full-on crazy here) they *transferred* his memories, personality, etc. to another body (perhaps a "synthetic" one). This means that his original body could have actually died (again) and they transfer the memories to a new synthetic body every time he dies (and this is just the first time we've seen it)

Of course this is going way out on a limb with no real evidence to support it other than a handful of lines from the doctor.
 

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iamscottevil said:
Killing simmons to motivate fitz would be called 'girl in the freezer' and most definitely not what they should do.
I don't think killing one character off, or at least making the assumption that the character is dead, would explicitly invoke this trope. Within reason the trope, or at least the broadly negative connotations the trope has, only applies to situations whereby the character is killed off by some method directly involving a specific antagonist.
 

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josemlopes said:
Bob, I am amazed at how much effort you are putting into this in hoping that it does get better. Marvel does some cool stuff, this show isnt one of them so treat it for what it is now and not for what you hope it becomes.

You put so much effort into ripping apart any non-Marvel superhero stuff that it comes out very poorly when every review for this show ends up like "It seems like the next episode will really start the good stuff"
Are you suggesting that Bob is allowing his faboyism to get in the way of actual objective criticism? Of course! He does it in every review he makes!
I simply had to stop watching his weekly film reviews because he wasn't reviewing the films for what they were, but for whether they were what he wanted them to be. He's not a critic, he's a fanboy.