Mass Effect 2 DLC Delayed

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Bato

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Mass Effect 2 JUST came, there is no need for DLC to be out. And if DLC came out with the game, that just irritates me, give me the whole game and not rip it up in pieces and sell multiple things to me.
 

Alpha Pat

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Zaeed looks like one of my angry irish uncles creepy

i just hope its out on thursday when i get it

That's Australia for you
 

Gildan Bladeborn

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thevikktor said:
That's weird, because I just downloaded that DLC about an hour ago...
Yeah, I just registered my Cerberus Network key and was presented with both Zaeed and the Normandy Crash executables for my downloading pleasure, got about a minute left on Zaeed's now. Maybe the delay was for the X-Box? Or it won't actually show up in game? Dunno.
 

Amnestic

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Bato said:
Mass Effect 2 JUST came, there is no need for DLC to be out. And if DLC came out with the game, that just irritates me, give me the whole game and not rip it up in pieces and sell multiple things to me.
Virgil made an excellent post about this in regards to the Day 1 Dragon Age DLC which you can read here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.154083#3719305].

I am always struck by exactly how ignorant many gamers are of how game or software development actually works. Let me try to explain this for you all:

First, any studio-developed game has a set time limit and budget for development. This should be common sense. All of the time that artists, writers, voice actors, programmers, and QA testers spend working on content is time that they are paid for.

Because of this, there is a set amount of content that can be included in a retail game (which pretty much has a fixed price). This is typically decided early on, and as the game development progresses things are added and removed depending on the difficulties the developer encounters. At each point, a decision is made as to whether X feature is important enough to increase the time/cost of the game development - if it's not, it can get cut from the game. Many of these features might be very cool, and developers can be sad to see them cut, but this happens with every game.

At some point in the development process, the designers have to stop adding new features and content. At this point, the programmers and QA become very busy testing, optimizing, and porting content. In the past, this is the stage where most of the writers, designers, and artists either get fired or get moved to another game.

Instead of firing the content creators, many newer games are deciding to instead have them make more content, to be tested and released separately from the game as DLC. This does not mean that the time that is used to create this is free, or that it is a part of the retail game. In some cases, the designers go back to stuff that was cut from the original game and rework it and fix the problems, because they really didn't want to see it removed in the first place.

While this is happening, the final "gold" version of the game is created. This is the version that first needs to pass the console manufacturers' certifications, and then need to be sent to manufacturing. This can take several weeks. During this time, the programmers and QA can test the DLC content that the rest of the team had been working on. Because they're working off the final version of the game now, and this is just extra content, this process goes a lot faster. It is easily possible that digital content can be tested and ready to be released before the retail versions of the game are even done being manufactured.

But all this time isn't 'free' - the assumption that the people working on this content would otherwise be being paid to add things to the retail game is just stupid. That game development time and budget has already been spent - they would either be working on something else entirely, or looking for a new job.

To create this new stuff, it has to be paid for somehow. For The Stone Prisoner, it's being paid for to see if it helps make up for used game sales - a particular problem for a mostly-linear story-based RPG. The Warden's Keep content, on the other hand, is a marketing promotion to sell the more expensive digital collector's edition (sans cloth map). If you aren't 'paying' for the content in one of those two ways, then you should expect to pay for it directly.
 

Stylish_Robot

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I'm gonna mainly use a combination of Legion, Thane, Miranda and Tali so this....weird looking dude can go away :p
 

Eruanno

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I didn't really like him anyway. "GRR I'm an old man! I shoot things!" Don't we have Grunt for that sort of thing?
 

BillyShakes

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Which one's Zaeed?
I don't think I could tell anyway, as my eyes hurt from reading the stupidly small text of my pre-ordered Collector's Edition.
 

Souplex

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Hopefully they will keep on delaying until I get my wired internet working again so nobody can experience things I can't.
 

kibayasu

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Wait, what? I downloaded it and it's working fine. Unless his mission is screwed up?

Edit:

EspirituExterminatus said:
You forgot to mention this is just for the 360 version. The PC one is just fine.
That explains that.
 

Dommyboy

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What amuses me is the huge amount of accounts that already have all the achievements and DLC already. Piracy in the obvious.

One thing I find odd though, all the DLC has been leaked already, including Zaeed. So if the pirates already have the DLC, why hasn't Bioware released it? Or it must be all physically available.
 

Asehujiko

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Soooo... Pirates get the DLC BEFORE legal customers? Somebody please explain me how that is supposed to encourage people to buy the game.
 

wench

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Can't exactly say I'm surprised at this point. I was mildly surprised that the game itself actually came out the day it was supposed to. That said, I love their games to death and will put up with the deranged "not yet, no, almost ready, here it is, whoops just kidding, ok - now!" release schedule.
 

mattttherman3

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Zaeed is one of the weaker characters in the game, he has nothing on Shale from DA:O, you can't even engage in a conversation with Zaeed unless it's in the mission to get his trust.