Why the fuck would you think that?So was the objection that audiences wanted things to finish with multiple different outcomes?
While I support the choice of the artist, It doesnt take a genius to see that the ending was off. Im still thinking it was EA's fault.PsychedelicDiamond said:You know, i agree with you: Every writer should have the right to end a work of fiction the way he wants to. But i really don't think that BioWare ended ME3 like that because it thought it was a decent ending to the series but because it wants to sell DLCs that way. I mean, just look at the fanbase: A lot of people who said that they hate BioWare for releasing a DLC right at the games release are now practically begging the company to offer them a different ending. It's would be funny if... well, to be honest, it _is_ pretty funny.
Which is exactly what was missing.an epilogue appendix style thing just to square away the subplots.
TsunamiWombat said:Point. Missing it. Thanks for not understanding, Yahtzee.
Holding the Line.
You guys are sure it's Yahtzee (and MovieBob, and Devin Faraci, and Ben Kuchera from PA Report and every other journalist that has said similar things recently) that's missing the point, and not yourselves?soren7550 said:I'm surprised that Yahtzee is both missing the point and isn't up in arms over the ending. For someone that has emphasized in the past how games should have good writing and that BioWare was one of the few developers that understood this, he really seems to not get it.
I think you've done a lot more to think about "What Kind of Story is Mass Effect" than the ending demonstrates, and that's the issue. It also unfortunately muddles things a bit.Yahtzee Croshaw said:Mass Effect Gets An Ending
Yahtzee takes on the Mass Effect 3 ending hubbub.
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Freedom has a price. It was both disappointing and awesome. Would have hated a "Wow we beat the reapers and everyone is happy" ending. I guess they didnt want a generic Paragon/Renegade ending. But seems everyone did. I sold my copy and have zero interest in any new ending.Sandytimeman said:Almost 300+ hours of game play to give me some depressing ass story where everyone fucking dies. Could have saved myself 80 bucks and 35 hours if I had just let shepard die in ME2.
Perhaps in his playthrough Wrex, or Eve, or both of them had died, so the Rebellions would start again. And perhaps he didn't manage to get peace between the Quarians and Geth.Mausenheimmer said:"Curing the Krogan Genophage implies that the Krogan Rebellions would start again"
No, they wouldn't because Wrex and Eve survived on my playthrough and they were determined to guide the krogan along a different path. Similarly, the geth and quarians started to get along and help each other, undermining the point that synthetics will inevitably fight organics.
But I guess paying attention to differences between playthroughs would require you to spend more than half a week thinking about it. And that requires way more effort than I've come to expect from you.
Also, this.Dastardly said:On the one hand, I completely agree that an author (or team thereof) should get to decide how the story ends. The audience must then accept that ending as "real" and make of it what they will. It's important to giving a story consequence -- and consequences aren't consequences if you can get out of the ones you don't like.
On the other hand, this ending shows signs of being poorly handled. It is inconsistent with itself, and thus confuses the fans. Plenty want to accept it... but they're not sure how, because it's not clear what the ending did. And there's the question of choices mattering or not... to which I'd have to say you're right -- you can't craft an ending for every version of Shepard out there -- except that this ending doesn't really seem to follow any version of Shepard we've been shown.
If JK Rowling had decided to kill Harry Potter, there would have been angry people... but they'd just have to get over it. That's the artist making an artistic decision, and it is paramount that decisions like that stand.
If, however, JK Rowling had decided to suddenly have Tom Bombadil show up and smite Lord Voldemort at the end, and that was it? I think the fans would be justified in believing that something had gone wrong with the artistic process, and that this ending isn't even what the artists themselves would have preferred.
For better or worse, the content of the ending must stand. I hope it does. The delivery of the ending, though, is what needs a bit more finesse, and I think there's plenty of room for that while maintaining artistic integrity.