Mass Effect 3: Retake This

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Epic Fail 1977

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Yeah, umm, okay.

I'm not a part of Retake (I could never be bothered enough to do something like that) but I don't see why the people who are part of it deserve such abuse. They're saying "we want a different ending to ME3". They're not saying "legalise rape" or "down with democracy". I think a little perspective is in order.
 

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Scrumpmonkey said:
Whilst this was funny, i think that ironically you guys seem kind of mad at the legitimate points brought up by many on last week's comments. Retake Mass Effect may be a little... extreme but at the heart of it they have a legitimate point; The ending sucked. The ending sucked really really really hard. It disregarded the choices the game put so much weight on throughout 3 games, its kind of like Bioware was going "Now all these choices you make are super important and carry over though 3 games- lol jk it didn't mean shit!"

The major selling point of the mass effect series was the customizable personal story you could craft with tour choices. No amount of pundit dismissing will diminish the ending being a bit of a kick in the balls.

Jim seems able to grasp this, why is everyone else effectively dodging the issue and trolling?
And you have stated why I found the comic last time to be so funny. Just read the part that I put into bold.
poiumty said:
Rule #1 of lazy comic writing: when out of ideas, use comic to relieve personal frustrations.

whoops, better stop writing or he'll start ridiculing me too

edit: love how the "release date" in the information box says "Q4 2011". Someone hasn't updated the database in a while.
Well considering 90% of the last comics comments were all railing against him and how he didn't get it and was paid off by EA to be nice about the game. Even though the comic had nothing nice to say about the game. Or anything about the game for that matter.
Patrick Anderson said:
Fans point out plot holes and inconsistencies with the ending and how it doesn't fit in the story

Game journalists and their websites that are plauged with EA ads call us entitled

Real journalists from Forbes, BBC News, CNN, NY Times, NY Daily news, etc... say the fans have a point and point out all the quotes Bioware said about the ending and how it ended up being lies.

Yeah, and you wonder why no one takes game journalists seriously anymore. I bet most of you game journalists cringe seeing more credible sources like Forbes rip you apart while you have nothing but petty comments to respond with.
And people point out the plot holes and inconsistencies with 90% of what is made after there are already things out there of that series. I also didn't find any major plot holes in the ending to be honest. For one I never actually saw my crew mates with me charging the reaper portal thing. Second Anderson clearly states that he must have been sent to a different part of the citadel than Shepard and that he is moving forward. And then states that he got there before Shepard over the intercom. Its TIM that comes up from behind not Anderson.
The only really big inconsistency is that depending on your ending depends on who leaves the Normandy regardless of who you have in your crew.
 

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Guy Jackson said:
Yeah, umm, okay.

I'm not a part of Retake (I could never be bothered enough to do something like that) but I don't see why the people who are part of it deserve such abuse. They're saying "we want a different ending to ME3". They're not saying "legalise rape" or "down with democracy". I think a little perspective is in order.
Well the last comic had the "Retake" moving giving blowjobs for a better ending. Pretty much saying the ending sucks so we will suck for a better ending.
I don't think a lot of people got that joke.
Then they took the comments to say how Carter was paid by EA how they weren't entitled little shits and how he just doesn't get it. Without really thinking about how exactly the strip was a joke.
 

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Yeah, when I heard people were petition for a chance to ME3's ending, I just had to roll my eyes. You don't like ME3's ending? Perfectly fine, everybody's entitled to an opinion. You say the ending was bad? Again, perfectly fine and you may very well be right (never got into Mass Effect so I wouldn't know how well or poorly it brings a conclusion to the storyline). Telling the makers to rewrite the ending to satisfy you? That's just stupid. It's the same attitude that has multiplayer game developers constantly nerfing new weapons a week or so after they come out; selfish people who aren't content to just voice their displeasure and then move on, they've got to demand gratification.

Now it's not just gameplay people are demanding be smoothed out so it doesn't give people any sort of challenge; they don't want to be challenged by the storyline either. ME3 may very well have a crappy ending, but sometimes you have to learn to speak your peace, then accept things turned out badly and move on. The next logical step would be people don't like a perfectly valid ending because it didn't happen to be the one they wanted, so they demand a rewrite. It makes me think of the scenario of Stephen King's "Misery," a rabid fan refusing to accept an unexpected turn of events and forcing the writer to change things to their own liking.
I didn't know that asking them to fix plot holes and inconsistencies is demanding gratification.

Huh. Boy, those guys who want Deception rewritten must be really mad, huh. They're angry about the entire book, not just 10 last pages!
 

Epic Fail 1977

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Krion_Vark said:
Guy Jackson said:
Yeah, umm, okay.

I'm not a part of Retake (I could never be bothered enough to do something like that) but I don't see why the people who are part of it deserve such abuse. They're saying "we want a different ending to ME3". They're not saying "legalise rape" or "down with democracy". I think a little perspective is in order.
Well the last comic had the "Retake" moving giving blowjobs for a better ending. Pretty much saying the ending sucks so we will suck for a better ending.
I don't think a lot of people got that joke.
Then they took the comments to say how Carter was paid by EA how they weren't entitled little shits and how he just doesn't get it. Without really thinking about how exactly the strip was a joke.
Oh right, I see.
 

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Krion_Vark said:
Guy Jackson said:
Yeah, umm, okay.

I'm not a part of Retake (I could never be bothered enough to do something like that) but I don't see why the people who are part of it deserve such abuse. They're saying "we want a different ending to ME3". They're not saying "legalise rape" or "down with democracy". I think a little perspective is in order.
Well the last comic had the "Retake" moving giving blowjobs for a better ending. Pretty much saying the ending sucks so we will suck for a better ending.
I don't think a lot of people got that joke.
Then they took the comments to say how Carter was paid by EA how they weren't entitled little shits and how he just doesn't get it. Without really thinking about how exactly the strip was a joke.
I didn't bother commenting on that comic, personally, but I'd like to say now that the comic didn't actually say the ending sucked; it simply said it was unhappy.

It looked, to me, like one of many outlets misrepresenting the Retake movement as just a bunch of people desperate for a happy conclusion, when in fact people are complaining about the quality of the writing.

But, on the other hand, maybe they just wanted the "happy ending" punchline. I don't know, and I didn't care enough to comment at the time.
 

Woodsey

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I suspect this'll be lost on the very pe-

jedizero said:
Fawxy said:
Wait wait wait wait wait wait...

Why the fuck are people taking this strip seriously? They're obviously poking fun at the whole situation, not just the fans' supposed "entitlement".

Lighten the fuck up, people.
Uhhh....No? They're pretty much saying that anyone who is saying that they need to change the ending is being an entitled little shit.

But y'know? After paying over a hundred dollars to continue the game where one of the major selling points is how the world can be defined and altered in a zillion little ways, and screwing over the consumer base by simply giving you THREE endings which all do the same fucking thing no matter what you choose, I think I've earned a right to say "This blows, and if you want to prove that your games are going to be worth purchasing in the future, you better fucking fix it."
Yep, surprise.

Think about the last panel for more than 2 seconds. I mean, really think about it. Because you are the butt of the joke, but not because you want the ending changed.
 

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RJ 17 said:
>.> there's a vgcats comic that I wanna post here...but is it right to post another webcomic in the comment section for someone's webcomic? :3
Do you mean the newest (whatever that means in VGcats context)or a comic that is unreleted to the game but has a similar topic?
 

Alphakirby

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For those offended by this comic, please stop doing so. The Retake Mass Effect movement was a giant wave of entitled, annoying overreaction. It is one thing to blow up the mailbox of Bioware with "Please make the ending better" messages, if that was only the case...instead what do we see happen, charities dedicated to changing the ending of a game, COMPLAINTS TO THE FTC, and the one thing I didn't mind, cupcakes that Bioware sent to children in an orphanage. I'm sorry but when you send complaints to the Federal Trade Center about "False Advertising" because of the ending it's gone way too far. If you didn't like the ending, send E-Mails, send snail mail, or just stop buying EA products. I'm sorry but Retake Mass Effect is basically a group of enraged, entitled babies who don't know the proper ways of broadcasting a message, making charities dedicated to one thing you don't like and complaining to the FTC are not proper ways of doing this and will most likely only lead to your own damn ridicule. If you're upset or disgruntled by my message just remember that I'm not saying that it's wrong to not like or otherwise be disappointed by the ending, it's fine to be upset just don't do stupid things because of it, just like any other situation concerning upset people.

EDIT: Petitions are perfectly fine too.
 

Axyun

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With comics like these it is really hard to see what side is the more childish of the two.
 

Simonoly

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I want to find this funny, but I'm so bored of the ME3 controversy now that this strip just seems to irritate me. Can we move on now please?
 

Alphakirby

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trollpwner said:
Alphakirby said:
The Retake Mass Effect movement was a giant wave of entitled, annoying overreaction.
I lean towards your viewpoint, but I do think that the fans were entitled to at least ask. That is, having the right to ask instead of falsely believing they do. I mean, it's not wrong to ask a studio to fix their buggy game or their unbalanced multiplayer, so why not a bad ending. I'm not defending them, and I do think some of them have gone too far, (for evidence, try reading through this thread) but I don't think their motives can be entirely faulted.
That's what I'm saying. It's alright to ask or in my opinion even go as far as to start a petition to show how many people want it.