On the one hand, I am extremely excited for Mass Effect, and can barely with hold all of my excitement without shifting into all caps mode.
On the other hand, I'm not thrilled about the whole "Reapers Attacking Earth" plot for the game. The only way I would be okay with it is (I believe a poster or two mentioned it above) if the Reapers destroyed Earth in the opening sequence of the game, leaving it up to you to gather a team and rally the universe to stop the reapers once and for all.
Agreed, they've really decided to stomp all over the main story. Basically, this makes the Reapers look petty cartoon villains for going after Shepard like his importance isn't forced by Bioware's lousy main-plot writing.
And anyway, the main portion of the game will again be 80% therapy sessions for your crew and faffing about the galaxy, because we all know that's what's sublime about ME. So why the Independence Day/Resistance Fall of Man/War of the Worlds/Skyline/Cloverfield vibe?
chemicalreaper said:
I hope you're forced to sit in the Cerberus headquarters and watch Earth blow up, right at the beginning of the game. That would make the game very personal and I know I would want to hunt down every last goddamn Reaper after that.
Unless you... Y'know, had a Colonist or Spacer background, in which case your Shep probably just visited Earth a few times. And if most playthroughs are paragon, as Bioware's statistics show, then Earthborn may be the rarest background since it gives you renegade points at the start.
Paragon -> Work charitably the other alien races.
Renegade -> Screw the other alien races, humanity first.
From the looks of Mass Effect 3, Earth is getting its comeuppance if you took the renegade route, but you'll be able to convince the other alien races to help bail it out if you took the Paragon route.
And sure, the trailer may look like just another gray, grimdark space marines vs. alien invaders piece of junk. But anyone that has played the previous games will know that it will have the support of a fantastic story and characters, and the amazingly crafted universe. No one should be playing it until they've played at least one of the other two games. And after all this time, we finally get to see Earth!
This trailer is very sexy, but I have to wonder how the hell you have a chance of beating the reapers. It took an entire fleet of human ships to kill one reaper, and before it died, it wiped out most of that fleet and the turian fleet. Even if all the species came together to fight the reapers, theres bloody loads of them, and they're much more powerful, especially considering the fact that the fleets are probably still rebuilding. And if the reapers are attacking other planets at the same time as earth, theres no way the species could unite, as they'd all be defending their planets.
They have gobs of reverse-engineered reaper tech from that base, and the Thanix cannons which can be mounted on fighters but can put a hell of a dent in cruisers.
Thats only if you don't destroy the base, and if you don't, Cerberus has it and it's highly unlikely they're going to share it with any aliens. Illusive Bloke says so himself by saying something along the lines of 'the base will make humanity stronger, against the reapers and beyond'.
As for the cannons, those would give an advantage, but I doubt it would be enough, especially as its a new technology so not many ships would have it.
Wait, is he credited? I recognized the similarity in the voice, but are you sure that's him? Because if it is and Richard Sharpe XIII isn't in your squad, I will be very dissapointed.
My god Commander Shepard gets all the poon (yeah yeah, I know what you meant).
OT: Cool. I haven't played the other Mass Effects yet, but as soon as I can get them for cheap on STEAM on a sale I'll pick them up and finally see what the hubub is about.
Thanks Bioware for spoiling yet again what will happened in the later stages of the main mission.
No build up or anything just POW! REAPERS INVADING, GATHER PEOPLE TO PUNCH THEM IN THE FACE,
THEN FIND THE DEUS EX MACHINEMA AND WHIPE THEM OUT ( unless they go for the rumored dark energy plot line.).
Thespian is absolutely right here. There's been foreshadowing. As for an attack on earth? More foreshadowing. Nothing that has happened is mindblowing or without simple explanations.
Also your attitude to spoilers is stunningly wrongheaded
If you don't like spoilers, you share at least as much blame for choosing watching the trailer as BioWare do for putting that information in there.
Hell, "rumored dark energy plot line." - you're even listening to rumors on the off chance you can find even more spoilers? If you don't like spoilers, *at least don't go hunting for rumors in the off chance you'll find some more*!
tl;dr IF DON'T LIKE SPOILERS; DON'T GO HUNT SPOILERS.
Spoilers aren't the problem at all. What the issue is, I believe, is that since the end of the first Mass Effect, the fact that the Reapers were going to make their way here was never in doubt, but the question was how they were going to get here.
With the Citadel denied to them in the first game, the Reapers were trapped, and in the second game
They tried to build another Reaper just to do the same thing as the last game
but that failed too. Without the Citadel to act as their relay, there is no known way for the Reapers to make it to the galaxy.
It's not okay for Bioware to just ignore this big gap in the plot and skip straight to destruction. Any player thinking on how best to plan against the Reapers has been taking the distance factor into account - for Bioware to ignore it just joggles this mindset, and is another way of telling players not to think, which is terrible for an interactive story.
Druyn said:
God dammit. I want this game so bad already, I am looing forward to it so much... But really? They have to bring it to earth. Way to take an excetional, fantastic, universal series and localize it so hard that the trailer looks like a standard FPS game with a standard plot. HOnestly, this is just disappointing. I know Bioware had to come up with something that would be somewhat climactic for the trailer, considering the circumstances and Shepards actual race, but just walking around earth makes it so disappointing. Why not the Turian Homeworld? Or some other heretofor unnanounced world of importance? why bring humanity to center stage? There are so many other places to go than going to earth.
I really, really, REALLY want this game. I know it will be epic, and ne f the best games Ive ever played. I just hope Earth isnt as huge a deal in the actual game as is implied in the trailer.
On the one hand, I am extremely excited for Mass Effect, and can barely with hold all of my excitement without shifting into all caps mode.
On the other hand, I'm not thrilled about the whole "Reapers Attacking Earth" plot for the game. The only way I would be okay with it is (I believe a poster or two mentioned it above) if the Reapers destroyed Earth in the opening sequence of the game, leaving it up to you to gather a team and rally the universe to stop the reapers once and for all.
I really like both your thinking of making another place the crux of the battle. Come to think of it, what would really get people going would be Earth's destruction, and that it's already lost and can't be reclaimed until after the final battle elsewhere. This would put Earth on the player's mind throughout the game, as a pinnacle of what the Reapers will do if not defeated.
And I really want to see Palaven as a key place sometime, we haven't seen a jot of Turian culture yet even though they're the strongest race in the galaxy. Maybe it can be the final battleground? That'd be cool.
Keep in mind, this is a universe where they reverse-engineered, then adopted a paradigm shifting technology (The Geth heat sinks as clips) within the span of roughly two years. The basic tech behind the Thanix cannon is the same as most other mass drivers, it's just the ammunition is different.
It would've been fine if they'd just changed one simple thing: if they'd had you fighting a regular reaper that was fueled by mashed-up people, that would've been fine and exciting, as well as still giving us the cool boss fight. As it is, you wound up fighting a half-finished terminator-- one that was constructed by the Reapers. The Reapers are, mind you, a race of eldritch near-omniscient Lovecraftian horrors that can bend reality and the minds of others to their will, vaporize planets from orbit in a matter of hours, and destroy entire fleets with their periphery defenses.
What did they need a big human skeleton for? Was it gonna punch spaceships or something? Seriously--why?
So yeah, it's more of an aesthetic complaint than a story one. But hey, it's a pretty big gripe all the same.
SO! The much anticipated plot of Mass Effect 3 will be:
*drum roll
The plot of Dragon Age.
yay for creativity and ingenuity... *waves small flag
EDIT: Remind me again, how is this going to be any different from the glorified collection quests of the two previous games? Also, with each installment they seem to get further away from the ground rules they laid out for the Reapers in ME1. I thought the Reapers were supposed to be efficient machines that can conquer a planet in a matter of days (or hours), how is Shepherd running around the galaxy for days/months/whatever going to save the Earth in time again?
Surprising they got there in time for the third game. They must have had some back up citadel controls and a spare mass relay sat like three weeks flight from their first dark space relay.
Which begs the question why they didn't just do that in the first place during the two years when E'l Shepard was suffering a mild case of death.
Maybe they were too busy escaping from humanity's ultimate weapon... TVtropes.
Well, that's dandy and all.
But this is the Mass Effect series, and NOBODY has any established reasons to care. Apart from "It's Earth, humans are from there" pride and all that.
Apart from a brief trip to the moon in the first game, the characters have never been NEAR to Earth, let along set foot on it.
Pointless hype trailer is pointless.
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Maybe it can be the final battleground? That'd be cool.
