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Arbitrary Cidin

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So I had wonderful timing in my dragging my feet to buy this game. I just beat the game the day before E3 and saw the previews for Mass Effect 2, and decided to open a discussion on it.
This thread is for general discussion of both games but I have a few questions.
1. Does your level, equipment, etc. carry over if you use your save data?
2. What do you think the Commander Shepard is dead thing is about?
3. If Saren's dead, why are the Geth still bothering you?

If you ask me, it's a damn good game, and I wish I bought it sooner.
 

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1. Yes, I think Bioware has even said it will.
2. I think it says he's dead because he went through a process known as "dying". (So i can stop being quoted on this I just put this because I have no idea why they said that so I decided to be a prick and give a sarcastic answer)
3. He's Dead, and because if you didn't skip all the dialogue you'd know that the re-bringing of the reapers was not only Saren's goal, but the Geth's as well. [i/]kinda why they worked together[/i]

[b/]WTF:[/b] When does the damn PS3 get damn Mass Effect? If if they're not getting it, why is Bioware being a prick? (I want it now!)

MaxTheReaper said:
3. Sovereign is still alive?
Well they show "him" blowing up so it's suggested that "he's" dead but they could just revive "him" for shits and giggles.
 

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Shepard was reported as K.I.A., so Bioware could say that is true and still have him live. I doubt that you would still have all your equptment or skills as it would make you overpowerd from the start, or make all of your gear the lowest value.

MaxTheReaper said:
Sovereign is still alive.
I don't see how he could be.
 

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Knight Templar said:
Shepard was reported as K.I.A., so Bioware could say that is true and still have him live. I doubt that you would still have all your equptment or skills as it would make you overpowerd from the start, or make all of your gear the lowest value.
They would do what happens when you re-do the campaign in the first one, you have all your gear and skills but the enemies are curved up to your level. It worked quite well.
 

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I'd be surprised if you could start as a 60th lv character with your equipment and powers.
I have the feeling that the "Shepard is dead" thing will only be a pretext to get her back to lv1 :p

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
He's Dead, and because if you didn't skip all the dialogue you;d know that the re-bringing of the reapers was not only Saren's goal, but the Geth's as well. [i/]kinda why the worked together[/i]
that
 

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On that notion do you guys think it will be more "complete" than Mass Effect 1? I find it odd that it wouldn't be but deadlines kind of left the first with and unfinished feeling. I'm just speculating this because I remember with KotOR 1 felt finished to me but KotOR 2 felt unfinished. I'm not trying to imply sequels are less finished but I don't know the history of Bioware.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
Knight Templar said:
Shepard was reported as K.I.A., so Bioware could say that is true and still have him live. I doubt that you would still have all your equptment or skills as it would make you overpowerd from the start, or make all of your gear the lowest value.
They would do what happens when you re-do the campaign in the first one, you have all your gear and skills but the enemies are curved up to your level. It worked quite well.
Yeah but there's going to be new skills and all (I'd hope) along with the fact that I would miss the satisfaction of leveling up with my old character even though I want a parallel storyline to his.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
Knight Templar said:
Shepard was reported as K.I.A., so Bioware could say that is true and still have him live. I doubt that you would still have all your equptment or skills as it would make you overpowerd from the start, or make all of your gear the lowest value.
They would do what happens when you re-do the campaign in the first one, you have all your gear and skills but the enemies are curved up to your level. It worked quite well.
True but it also mean that you never used new equptment. I had full specter gear for all my crew and the best armor for all my crew, starting off like that means that any new items just clog up my inventory. In fact it had a negitive affect on collecting items because it made a pop-up appear every time I got something new.
 

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Sovereign is dead, but he is only one reaper right?
i think some of the protheans are still alive, and I bet bavarians have a larger role in this.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
1. Yes, I think Bioware has even said it will.
2. I think it says he's dead because he went through a process known as "dying".
3. He's Dead, and because if you didn't skip all the dialogue you'd know that the re-bringing of the reapers was not only Saren's goal, but the Geth's as well. [i/]kinda why they worked together[/i]

[b/]WTF:[/b] When does the damn PS3 get damn Mass Effect? If if they're not getting it, why is Bioware being a prick? (I want it now!)

MaxTheReaper said:
3. Sovereign is still alive?
Well they show "him" blowing up so it's suggested that "he's" dead but they could just revive "him" for shits and giggles.
Nah. I think a big explosion and something tearing thru it's hull makes the thing dead.
1. I don't think so. I have the spectre gear and the most powerfull armor in the game. That would make the game to easy I suppose.
2. He isn't. To quote Casey Hudson: "I've read many interesting ideas about the trailer and all I can say is that not a single one is correct."
3. Talk to Tali, she'll tell you everything about the geth. These geth were under Sovereign's control and there are geth in other, unexplorable, system that are hostile to everyone.
 

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Aries_Split said:
Sovereign is dead, but he is only one reaper right?
i think some of the protheans are still alive, and I bet bavarians have a larger role in this.
Wait..... bavarians?
 

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Knight Templar said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
Knight Templar said:
Shepard was reported as K.I.A., so Bioware could say that is true and still have him live. I doubt that you would still have all your equptment or skills as it would make you overpowerd from the start, or make all of your gear the lowest value.
They would do what happens when you re-do the campaign in the first one, you have all your gear and skills but the enemies are curved up to your level. It worked quite well.
True but it also mean that you never used new equptment. I had full specter gear for all my crew and the best armor for all my crew, starting off like that means that any new items just clog up my inventory. In fact it had a negitive affect on collecting items because it made a pop-up appear every time I got something new.
I seriously doubt they are going to have the best gear from number one be as good as the best gear from number two. Bioware specifically stated to keep your memory for number two so I;m sure they put a lot of work into making a good experience either way you do it.

Arbitrary Cidin said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
Knight Templar said:
Shepard was reported as K.I.A., so Bioware could say that is true and still have him live. I doubt that you would still have all your equptment or skills as it would make you overpowerd from the start, or make all of your gear the lowest value.
When you restart with your character you re-allocate you skill points, so if there were new skills it wouldn't matter.

They would do what happens when you re-do the campaign in the first one, you have all your gear and skills but the enemies are curved up to your level. It worked quite well.
Yeah but there's going to be new skills and all (I'd hope) along with the fact that I would miss the satisfaction of leveling up with my old character even though I want a parallel storyline to his.
When you restarted the game with your character you would re-allocate your skill points. So if the new Mass Effect has new skills it wouldn't matter, you could allocate your points into those new skills.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
1. Yes, I think Bioware has even said it will.
2. I think it says he's dead because he went through a process known as "dying".
They show him as your played character in previews.
pantsoffdanceoff said:
3. He's Dead, and because if you didn't skip all the dialogue you'd know that the re-bringing of the reapers was not only Saren's goal, but the Geth's as well. [i/]kinda why they worked together[/i]
No, the geth think the Reapers are gods, which is why they helped Saren. That was only the explanation from the Council meeting, which was wrong about virtually everything in the game. If Saren could control minds (well, rather Soveriegn could) so that kind of Diplomacy seems a bit unessecary to me, and with both of them gone, I'd imagine them free-willed.
 

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Arbitrary Cidin said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
1. Yes, I think Bioware has even said it will.
2. I think it says he's dead because he went through a process known as "dying".
They show him as your played character in previews.
pantsoffdanceoff said:
3. He's Dead, and because if you didn't skip all the dialogue you'd know that the re-bringing of the reapers was not only Saren's goal, but the Geth's as well. [i/]kinda why they worked together[/i]
No, the geth think the Reapers are gods, which is why they helped Saren. That was only the explanation from the Council meeting, which was wrong about virtually everything in the game. If Saren could control minds (well, rather Soveriegn could) so that kind of Diplomacy seems a bit unessecary to me, and with both of them gone, I'd imagine them free-willed.
There is more than one reapers, it is an entire race of reapers. Why [i/]specifically[/i] Sovereign was the only reaper to around in Mass effect one is unexplained. Thus one of the many other reapers could be controlling the Geth.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
Arbitrary Cidin said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
1. Yes, I think Bioware has even said it will.
2. I think it says he's dead because he went through a process known as "dying".
They show him as your played character in previews.
pantsoffdanceoff said:
3. He's Dead, and because if you didn't skip all the dialogue you'd know that the re-bringing of the reapers was not only Saren's goal, but the Geth's as well. [i/]kinda why they worked together[/i]
No, the geth think the Reapers are gods, which is why they helped Saren. That was only the explanation from the Council meeting, which was wrong about virtually everything in the game. If Saren could control minds (well, rather Soveriegn could) so that kind of Diplomacy seems a bit unessecary to me, and with both of them gone, I'd imagine them free-willed.
There is more than one reapers, it is an entire race of reapers. Why Sovereign was the only reaper to around in Mass effect one is unexplained. Thus one of the many other reapers could be controlling the Geth.
All the other Reapers are still in Dark Space (another Universe/ Dimension I guess) and the only reason Sovereign is there is because he's a Sentinel.
 

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ph3onix said:
Aries_Split said:
Sovereign is dead, but he is only one reaper right?
i think some of the protheans are still alive, and I bet bavarians have a larger role in this.
Wait..... bavarians?
Yeah, they invented Bavarian Cream-Filled Donuts
 

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Arbitrary Cidin said:
All the other Reapers are still in Dark Space (another Universe/ Dimension I guess) and the only reason Sovereign is there is because he's a Sentinel.
Dark Space is the area beyond the galactic rim, where there is noting, the space between galaxies. There the reapers conserve energy, and wait.
 

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
Arbitrary Cidin said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
1. Yes, I think Bioware has even said it will.
2. I think it says he's dead because he went through a process known as "dying".
They show him as your played character in previews.
pantsoffdanceoff said:
3. He's Dead, and because if you didn't skip all the dialogue you'd know that the re-bringing of the reapers was not only Saren's goal, but the Geth's as well. [i/]kinda why they worked together[/i]
No, the geth think the Reapers are gods, which is why they helped Saren. That was only the explanation from the Council meeting, which was wrong about virtually everything in the game. If Saren could control minds (well, rather Soveriegn could) so that kind of Diplomacy seems a bit unessecary to me, and with both of them gone, I'd imagine them free-willed.
There is more than one reapers, it is an entire race of reapers. Why Sovereign was the only reaper to around in Mass effect one is unexplained. Thus one of the many other reapers could be controlling the Geth.
Actually they did explain it. They said that the reapers had left one behind from the last time they wiped out life, so that he could reopen the portal thing at the citadel and allow the other reapers to return. Or something like that.
 

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LeeHarveyO said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
Arbitrary Cidin said:
pantsoffdanceoff said:
1. Yes, I think Bioware has even said it will.
2. I think it says he's dead because he went through a process known as "dying".
They show him as your played character in previews.
pantsoffdanceoff said:
3. He's Dead, and because if you didn't skip all the dialogue you'd know that the re-bringing of the reapers was not only Saren's goal, but the Geth's as well. [i/]kinda why they worked together[/i]
No, the geth think the Reapers are gods, which is why they helped Saren. That was only the explanation from the Council meeting, which was wrong about virtually everything in the game. If Saren could control minds (well, rather Soveriegn could) so that kind of Diplomacy seems a bit unessecary to me, and with both of them gone, I'd imagine them free-willed.
There is more than one reapers, it is an entire race of reapers. Why Sovereign was the only reaper to around in Mass effect one is unexplained. Thus one of the many other reapers could be controlling the Geth.
Actually they did explain it. They said that the reapers had left one behind from the last time they wiped out life, so that he could reopen the portal thing at the citadel and allow the other reapers to return. Or something like that.
Yeah I worded my sentence wrong, I rephrased it.