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ZeroMachine

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Kif said:
If Mass Effect 2 gets good reviews I will likely buy it. However, I completely skipped out on Mass Effect 1, I was raiding in WoW and it's all just a crazy memory, time flew by and I missed the game essentially.

Upon searching I find a lot of mixed reviews about the Mass Effect, this is not helping me in my decision to buy it so I put it to you, the hopefully honest unbias gaming public. Is Mass Effect 1 worth owning regardless of whether I get ME2 or should I only get it if I get ME2? And if I were to get it should I get it on my PC or the XBox 360? I would prefer PC but if the port is rubbish I'd rather have it on XBox.
You skipped out on Mass Effect because of reviews?

You crazy, OP, you crazy...

OK, in all seriousness, never do that. If you're not sure, rent it or borrow it. Try it for yourself. Now, about the game itself, first a little check:

1. Do you like Sci-Fi?
2. Do you like RPGs? (Since you said you were playing WoW, I'm going to take a shot at yes)
3. Would you like an RPG with highly immersive storytelling?
4. Last but not least, did you play and enjoy Knights of the Old Republic? Mass Effect is like that, but with a new IP and a third person tactical shooting combat system instead of your D&D based system from KotoR.

If you answered yes to any of those, seriously, at least try it. It's an amazing game. With RPGs made by BioWare, you can't go wrong.
 

S.H.A.R.P.

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I played ME on the PC, and I really liked it. It is in my opinion another quality Bioware game. Sure it has some lesser parts, but the overall concept of the game is superb. Buy it, or play a demo or something first.
 

dodo1331

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Mass Effect is good for RPG fans who can handle some long dialogues.

Seriously, if you played Bioware's other games, you know what to expect from this game except for a different combat system.

That said, this is Bioware's worst game in my opinion. Still fantastic.
 

Eagle Est1986

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It's still my favourite game on the 360, buy it. Surely you can find it for super cheap now anyway?
 

Rascarin

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Mass Effect was the first and only game that inspired me to play it SIX times, back to back. Then at least another four after that. Its incredible. If you liked KotOR, Jade Empire or NWN than you'll probably like ME. Its got all that classic Bioware greatness. Also, hot alien sex.

I might be biased, but I'd recommend ME for the 360 over PC - less bugs, and no DRM. I've only played the 360 version, so I can't give an objective opinion. You can find it dirt cheap preowned in most places, too.
 

Kif

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Okay, I'm convinced I'll get it... I played WoW for years so I can live with repetative being its only flaw.

Thanks all for the advice :)

Now wait for my Sims 3 and you thread. *just kidding*
 

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The bottom line is, it's a good game. Unfortunately, much like any other popular game, the fans make it out to be better than it really is. It has a great story and a fairly big universe to explore, but I definitely see how some people found it boring. In the end, it's all about personal taste, and if you liked the KOTOR games, you'll probably like this. I would recommend giving it a try. You can get it pretty cheap. I picked up a copy for $15.
 

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GodsOneMistake said:
YES you need to buy the game. It is a perfect ten, I have yet to figure out what people are talking about when they trash the game.
To copy pasta myself:
Combat - The cover system really should have been more like Gears of War, GoW was far more fluid. ME's is mostly just an annoyance. The squad AI is abysmal. They fail horribly at finding cover, they can't hit the broad side of a barn, and seeing my alien sniper dood unloading his assault rifle at a wall while we're getting charged by thorian creepers made me go D:. If you play a shock trooper/vanguard the game gets extremely lollerskatesy once you unlock the barrier upgrade. Having super recharging shields = easy mode.

Supporting Cast - A completely forgettable cast of NPCs really drags this game down. They've never once bitched about my choices (I play a renegade) no matter what. I slaughtered the thorian controlled colonists and my squad did not give a shit. What happened to the good ole days when your teammates would openly object and in some cases even flat out leave until you were more inline with their ideals? (Ah, Baldur's Gate series, how I miss thee). How am I supposed to care about them when they never present any sort of personality? I'm not going to go out of my way to bullshit with everyone on the ship after every mission just to advance npc plot. That's what we in the business like to call a "waste of my fucking time." After all, why bullshit with characters you don't care about? In NWN2 I actually enjoyed some of the characters like Neeshka and hated others just for who they were like the god damn druid *****. In ME I just flat out am not interested in the characters.

Graphically, I've noticed more than a few spots where the fps got laggy and textures took a little to load, and then the planet roaving is just pathetic. All you ever run around on barren, mountain-covered terrain. The only thing that ever seems to change, is what colour the rocks are.

Story: Another "I don't give a fuck" section. Saren is doing..stuff..and is gonna destroy everything, la la la. Whatever. So far having only one glimpse of Saren with only vague hintings at what he's doing isn't very involving. The occasional run-in or glimpse of him would be kinda nice. Or maybe running into a Saren induced atrocity, etc. As it stands I'm pretty disconnected from the story. Once again, Baldur's Gate quality material this is not.

Overall this is a very mediocre and forgettable game. Every aspect screams 'I'M AVERAGE!' Sadly, this is the state of the RPG these days. Just a bunch of "me too" games trying to be something special and failing. The glory days of the BG series are long gone, and I doubt we'll ever see something as engrossing or well done again until the developers start taking chances and thinking outside of the worn and overused box.
 

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TOGSolid said:
GodsOneMistake said:
YES you need to buy the game. It is a perfect ten, I have yet to figure out what people are talking about when they trash the game.
To copy pasta myself:
Combat - The cover system really should have been more like Gears of War, GoW was far more fluid. ME's is mostly just an annoyance. The squad AI is abysmal. They fail horribly at finding cover, they can't hit the broad side of a barn, and seeing my alien sniper dood unloading his assault rifle at a wall while we're getting charged by thorian creepers made me go D:. If you play a shock trooper/vanguard the game gets extremely lollerskatesy once you unlock the barrier upgrade. Having super recharging shields = easy mode.

Supporting Cast - A completely forgettable cast of NPCs really drags this game down. They've never once bitched about my choices (I play a renegade) no matter what. I slaughtered the thorian controlled colonists and my squad did not give a shit. What happened to the good ole days when your teammates would openly object and in some cases even flat out leave until you were more inline with their ideals? (Ah, Baldur's Gate series, how I miss thee). How am I supposed to care about them when they never present any sort of personality? I'm not going to go out of my way to bullshit with everyone on the ship after every mission just to advance npc plot. That's what we in the business like to call a "waste of my fucking time." After all, why bullshit with characters you don't care about? In NWN2 I actually enjoyed some of the characters like Neeshka and hated others just for who they were like the god damn druid *****. In ME I just flat out am not interested in the characters.

Graphically, I've noticed more than a few spots where the fps got laggy and textures took a little to load, and then the planet roaving is just pathetic. All you ever run around on barren, mountain-covered terrain. The only thing that ever seems to change, is what colour the rocks are.

Story: Another "I don't give a fuck" section. Saren is doing..stuff..and is gonna destroy everything, la la la. Whatever. So far having only one glimpse of Saren with only vague hintings at what he's doing isn't very involving. The occasional run-in or glimpse of him would be kinda nice. Or maybe running into a Saren induced atrocity, etc. As it stands I'm pretty disconnected from the story. Once again, Baldur's Gate quality material this is not.

Overall this is a very mediocre and forgettable game. Every aspect screams 'I'M AVERAGE!' Sadly, this is the state of the RPG these days. Just a bunch of "me too" games trying to be something special and failing. The glory days of the BG series are long gone, and I doubt we'll ever see something as engrossing or well done again until the developers start taking chances and thinking outside of the worn and overused box.
Did you really need to quote me on that, Im not even gonna bother reading all of it, your not gonna change my opinion and it's a shame you don't realize what a great game it is
 

TOGSolid

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Yes, yes I did. I don't need to 'realize' it's a good game. I played it, and it was pretty damn mediocre. Calling it the greatest RPG ever like so many others did when it doesn't even stack up to real RPGs like the Baldur's Gate series is just a travesty on the genre.
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG43LcH3CNo&feature=related

Because it's a big stupid jellyfish!!
 

thejtrain

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Mass Effect is fantastic - it's the reason I initially bought a 360 (back when it was still 360-exclusive).

My advice: decide ahead of time which system you're going to want to play ME2 on (PC or 360), and get ME1 on that same system so you can level up your Shepard and use him in ME2.
 

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GodsOneMistake said:
TOGSolid said:
GodsOneMistake said:
YES you need to buy the game. It is a perfect ten, I have yet to figure out what people are talking about when they trash the game.
To copy pasta myself:
Combat - The cover system really should have been more like Gears of War, GoW was far more fluid. ME's is mostly just an annoyance. The squad AI is abysmal. They fail horribly at finding cover, they can't hit the broad side of a barn, and seeing my alien sniper dood unloading his assault rifle at a wall while we're getting charged by thorian creepers made me go D:. If you play a shock trooper/vanguard the game gets extremely lollerskatesy once you unlock the barrier upgrade. Having super recharging shields = easy mode.

Supporting Cast - A completely forgettable cast of NPCs really drags this game down. They've never once bitched about my choices (I play a renegade) no matter what. I slaughtered the thorian controlled colonists and my squad did not give a shit. What happened to the good ole days when your teammates would openly object and in some cases even flat out leave until you were more inline with their ideals? (Ah, Baldur's Gate series, how I miss thee). How am I supposed to care about them when they never present any sort of personality? I'm not going to go out of my way to bullshit with everyone on the ship after every mission just to advance npc plot. That's what we in the business like to call a "waste of my fucking time." After all, why bullshit with characters you don't care about? In NWN2 I actually enjoyed some of the characters like Neeshka and hated others just for who they were like the god damn druid *****. In ME I just flat out am not interested in the characters.

Graphically, I've noticed more than a few spots where the fps got laggy and textures took a little to load, and then the planet roaving is just pathetic. All you ever run around on barren, mountain-covered terrain. The only thing that ever seems to change, is what colour the rocks are.

Story: Another "I don't give a fuck" section. Saren is doing..stuff..and is gonna destroy everything, la la la. Whatever. So far having only one glimpse of Saren with only vague hintings at what he's doing isn't very involving. The occasional run-in or glimpse of him would be kinda nice. Or maybe running into a Saren induced atrocity, etc. As it stands I'm pretty disconnected from the story. Once again, Baldur's Gate quality material this is not.

Overall this is a very mediocre and forgettable game. Every aspect screams 'I'M AVERAGE!' Sadly, this is the state of the RPG these days. Just a bunch of "me too" games trying to be something special and failing. The glory days of the BG series are long gone, and I doubt we'll ever see something as engrossing or well done again until the developers start taking chances and thinking outside of the worn and overused box.
Did you really need to quote me on that, Im not even gonna bother reading all of it, your not gonna change my opinion and it's a shame you don't realize what a great game it is
It's also a shame that you don't realize that not everyone likes the same games.

As for what I think?
It got kinda boring. People say the story's amazing, but I got tired of it halfway through.
 

YuheJi

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Kif said:
Psychosocial said:
Mixed reviews?

Is that your final answer? [http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/masseffect?q=mass%20effect]
Awesome link, I'm gonna book mark that site, thanks :)
You didn't know about metacritic? It's like the Rotten Tomatoes of gaming. Some companies will hold back royalties from publishers if a game has a poor metacritic score.
And I had great fun with the story. I probably beat the game 3-4 times, doing different side missions and making different choices.
 

Kif

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Damn you all, I bought it and spent the entire weekend playing it now I'm stuck in work when I want to be playing it some more!

I only have some small issues on niggly things. The locations on non main mission planets (mines, bases) are all pretty much the same. It would have been nice to have more hubs like earth & Tera Nova but I've not finished the storyline yet so I have just the Citadel, Noveria and Feros there may be more or maybe they are saving them for 2 & 3. Lastly the dialogue choices seem disconnected from the actual conversation, like I died and did a conversation with different choices but the script and result worked our exactly the same (apart from the dying) or sometimes it'll be in the form of a question but when that conversation choice is clicked it'll be said as a statement.

Other than that, love it, thanks.
 

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Kif said:
If Mass Effect 2 gets good reviews I will likely buy it. However, I completely skipped out on Mass Effect 1, I was raiding in WoW and it's all just a crazy memory, time flew by and I missed the game essentially.

Upon searching I find a lot of mixed reviews about the Mass Effect, this is not helping me in my decision to buy it so I put it to you, the hopefully honest unbias gaming public. Is Mass Effect 1 worth owning regardless of whether I get ME2 or should I only get it if I get ME2? And if I were to get it should I get it on my PC or the XBox 360? I would prefer PC but if the port is rubbish I'd rather have it on XBox.

Update :
Okay, I'm convinced I'll get it... I played WoW for years so I can live with repetative being its only flaw.

Thanks all for the advice :)

Now wait for my Sims 3 and you thread. *just kidding*
I say rent it and form your own opinion.