To be fair, it being a Bethesdaa RPG meant that the find baby quest is only an easily forgotten mild obligation that you can just ignore and explore anything else or build a magnificent mansion of solely public toilets instead. Even that baby search doesn't last long and evolves into something completely different. I never got the impression that it was pushing any opinions or feelings that you had to submit to to enjoy the game.Casual Shinji said:
Frankly don't care. My life doesn't revolve around other people's opinions.SirSullymore said:
Lord of The Rings and many other works are created by people with some quite questionable viewpoints. I think the main issues are really if they are affecting the work in question or if the creator donates money to questionable causes...in the sense that paying for their work would be indirectly adding to funding potentially harmful causes. Doyle, the original writer of Sherlock Holmes became quite spiritual in his late life, but never let it affect his characters. So although I may disagree with his beliefs, his work still maintains integrity. Also if this Mass Effect director honestly hates white people, it hasn't been evident in any of the games so far, neither does it look evident here.SirSullymore said:
Simple. Does his ideological bile infest the game in the vein of something like "Hatred"? Yes? Then I'm not interested. No? Then whatever. Hundreds will work on the game and so there's guaranteed to be a hugely diverse set of opinions in it. I may disagree with the guy, but he has a right to hold his opinions as well as maintain his job provided it doesn't affect his work or ability to work with others. This is not that hard a position to hold.SirSullymore said:
Yeah, but as soon as you talked to people that were tied to the main quest, or you simply wanted to continue the story, you were forced into the role of caring parent/grieving widow(er). You could never say something along the lines of 'I don't care about my kid' or 'He's probably already dead'. And yes, you can ignore the main quest, but for a role-playing game that's kind of aggravating.Xsjadoblayde said:
Let's be honest, beth sucks hard when it comes to rping in fallout 4 to the point it can barely be called an rpg anymore. They can't even keep their simple characterization coherent: you're all but encouraged to act in a goody two shoes way (it's hard to rp as being genuinely evil in fo4 without it clashing against the actions you do in the story), and then a dlc comes along when you become in charge of a raider gang... Even though chances are you're also the general of the minutemen, a concerned parent looking for their sibling (regardless of how douschey you are) and involved to some degree in settlement building (remember when that was supposed to be "optional?"). Double points if you're a brotherhood member, at least if you're institute aligned you can justify it as keeping the above ground people weak and divided.Casual Shinji said:
No argument about those stupid factions, made me wish there was an option like you describe where you just drag your sibling out and let them sort their own bs out.Imre Csete said:
You don't have to add that, your comment clearly indicates you're part of a hive mind, thanks.Darth Rosenberg said:
Very nice, but guess what. I haven't and wouldn't give him money either. So not sure what your point is. Seems strange that you seem to be arguing that it's ok for a person to be racist, but not ok if I just don't want to support them financially. Were you as outraged about what happened to Brendan Eich? How about the numerous normal people out there who have gotten fired because they irritated the three letter people? I'm just voting with my wallet.JohnZ117 said:
Hive mind and apparently progressively pro-diversity proud, sure.Ukomba said:
I don't know. Lets says, someone like... I don't know... David Duke comes out in support of a presidential candidate (Who didn't go out and seek or hire the man like is the case here). Would David Duke having an unpopular opinion taint everything he touches? Would said presidential candidate need to distance himself from and condemn him as to try to avoid being tared with the same brush?Recusant said:
JohnZ117 said:
Gah, you're reaching so hard to virtue signal it's painful.Darth Rosenberg said:
Given Manveer's very much keen to explore diversity in gaming, yes, discussions about him clearly can and do involve issues of diversity and progressive values. I don't buy that the people boycotting ME:A because of his involvement care about racism (which a 'white tears' mug isn't) at all - I see a certain group or groups reacting because of who he is, and what he actually cares about. But, moving on.Ukomba said:
Irrelevant. His desire to explore diversity in gaming has nothing to do with the issue at hand. It's like arguing that you hate kids because you don't like David Duke just because David Duke volunteers at orphanages on the weekend. I know you're desperately trying to turn this into an argument you're more comfortable with, but that isn't happening. Some rando's issue with him putting a black character in a game IS NOT RELEVANT. The stupid white tears mug isn't even the issue, he's makes frequent of anti-white, hateful, race bating tweets.Darth Rosenberg said:
On the contrary, his tweets show that, unfiltered, he has a deep seeded bias and possibly even hatred of, white people. The fact that he can reign it in for 15 minutes to give a positive impression in an interview is meaningless. By your reasoning, Mel Gibson is just fine because he's never said anything objectionable in an interview. Sure when off came he says a lot of anti-semetic s*** but look at his interview!Darth Rosenberg said:
If they show a history of promoting something I disagree with then yes. It's not a formal boycott, I just avoid promoting and financially supporting those creators. Unlike certain sjw websites where people can get together to righteously dox then gang up and get people who say things they don't like fired, I just withhold my money.Darth Rosenberg said:
Hmm, maybe I'm not asking the question correctly. See, I never asked about supporting a product if you take umbrage with the seller, I don't think it should effect your enjoyment of it.Dr. Crawver said:
