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[OldGus]

Also, Shepherd and co are implied to be using translation software (referenced at one point), even if it does seem a bit like the Tardis in that it has a remarkable gift for translating whatever is necessary to keep the story going and never seems to go terribly wrong. Still, the Asari aren't actually calling themselves 'Matriarch' or referring to themselves with female pronouns because they aren't actually speaking English, at least not when they speak to each other.

I say fair enough here, since everything except Star Wars has translation devices, especially since it would be even more absurd to imply that they all speak the same language (Star Wars being the exception due to thousands of years of interaction.)
That being said, getting off topic, it would be great, if in fact that was the case, to have some indication as to such, which could easily be worked into the story line just by something easy, like having it fail, or having it meet a language it can't make heads or tails of, or people turning them off for private conversations (which could be interesting in other ways, especially if other characters actually know this language... say you only get a translation if you bring the right characters along.) Hell, one I think would be funny as hell is simply a translation software virus that either screws up the syntax or vocabulary, or randomly inserts words that have no business in the sentence. A virus like that could start a riot not easily solved by local police forces, or screw up negotiations, or cause a temporary crash in the local stock exchange, at least until someone techish gets down there to fix it. Something made even more interesting if the tech people you choose are folks like Mordin and Tali. And something like that could be as interesting and subtle as just changing the emotions the hanar (I think) express, since they have to say that at the beginning of every sentence.

Sorry, off topic.

 

[OldGus]

good lord. I've stated this before. It's not Tali, It's what happend to the species. Hell, I don't take sides, there's no clear right or wrong there's just what happened.

I'm not trying to advance one species over the other here, I'm just trying to tell you guys I understand her anger toward geth for what they did to her homeworld.
If something like that happened to earth, you'd bet I'll be pissed.

my original point wasn't that the quarians had no fault in it, just that i understand why they dislike the geth.

You have to understand. This is the internet. It is a requirement of everyone that their statements be taken out of context. And since argument is the international passtime...

 

[numbersix1979]

Here's my question: if they really, really have to insist on turning Mass Effect into Gears of War Effect, could they at least copy GoW's decision to have female characters wear things that wouldn't be a massive liability in combat?

It's not even that that bothers me so much. Do they really really really have to show off curvy women every fifteen seconds to keep the audience's attention focused on the cutscene? I mean, if a woman wants to dress like a stripper in a combat zone, that's her prerogative. But it's like, really obvious that Bioware thought the characters and story weren't interesting enough for the audience to focus on, so the camera is consistently pulled into Miranda's ass crack and dragged over her cleavage. It just kinda takes me out of the experience, like when you're having this really rich conversation with this character who is usually aloof and demeaning but is now revealing a softer side of her personality by asking for help with something that really means a lot to her, like it's a pivotal moment of character development, and then it's suddenly interrupted by a shot of Miranda's ass coming into the side of the screen and filling it up like a time lapse film of the moon going from new to full. It's juvenile is what it is.

 

[RN7]

It is easy to get lost in the "Bioware face" when you're surrounded by several alien species that are meant to streamline with the humans. That and they obviously designed Miranda to be inferior to Tali. /joking.

 

[Kahunaburger]

Here's my question: if they really, really have to insist on turning Mass Effect into Gears of War Effect, could they at least copy GoW's decision to have female characters wear things that wouldn't be a massive liability in combat?

It's not even that that bothers me so much. Do they really really really have to show off curvy women every fifteen seconds to keep the audience's attention focused on the cutscene? I mean, if a woman wants to dress like a stripper in a combat zone, that's her prerogative. But it's like, really obvious that Bioware thought the characters and story weren't interesting enough for the audience to focus on, so the camera is consistently pulled into Miranda's ass crack and dragged over her cleavage. It just kinda takes me out of the experience, like when you're having this really rich conversation with this character who is usually aloof and demeaning but is now revealing a softer side of her personality by asking for help with something that really means a lot to her, like it's a pivotal moment of character development, and then it's suddenly interrupted by a shot of Miranda's ass coming into the side of the screen and filling it up like a time lapse film of the moon going from new to full. It's juvenile is what it is.

Haha, seriously. I'm pretty sure I remember the exact scene you're talking about because it's pretty memorable just for how completely it ends up getting undermined with the gratuitous ass shot.

 

[Giantpanda602]

I actually like Ashley, though she's a ***** and I meant to kill her in ME 1 after accidentally entering the romance sequence with her (meant to do it with Liara), but felt guilty when I had to decide to leave her or the guy.

 

[Trillovinum]

good lord. I've stated this before. It's not Tali, It's what happend to the species. Hell, I don't take sides, there's no clear right or wrong there's just what happened.

I'm not trying to advance one species over the other here, I'm just trying to tell you guys I understand her anger toward geth for what they did to her homeworld.
If something like that happened to earth, you'd bet I'll be pissed.

my original point wasn't that the quarians had no fault in it, just that i understand why they dislike the geth.

You have to understand. This is the internet. It is a requirement of everyone that their statements be taken out of context. And since argument is the international passtime...

you are 100% right. thanks

 

[Kahunaburger]

the reason people aren't going on at Bioware for being sexist is because they're not, sex sells, and they're just playing a game that the vast majority of the entertainment industry is playing

Uh... hate to break it to you, but that argument doesn't demonstrate Bioware isn't sexist. It only demonstrates that Bioware is no more or less sexist than, say, Micheal Bay.

Are they a completely adult approach to these matters, no, but they're head and shoulders above the rest of the field imo. You have to form relationships, you can quite easily fuck these relationships up, or you can ignore the affections of those around you, and you don't even have to be heterosexual...

Bioware's a little better than a few games on relationships. In some of their games. (not, for instance, the Mass Effect series or DA2). But I was talking about their level of maturity re: sex, which is pretty laughable. It generally either comes off as hilarious pandering (in the case of the visuals, or in the case of characters like Isabella and the entire Asari species) or as how this kind of guy [http://www.heartless-bitches.com/rants/niceguys/niceguys.shtml] thinks sex fits into the context of a relationship. There are a few exceptions. I didn't recall Dragon Age: Origins actively annoying me (except with stereotyped bisexual characters and the actual sex scenes - and the less said the better about those) with the maturity level of its sexual content.

And re: heterosexuality, suffice to say that Bioware has not included an actual gay or lesbian love interest, period.

 

[Seanfall]

My problem with both Ash and Miranda is that they come off unlikable. Ashy because she's raciest, granted her family history explains if not out right excuses that.

I know this has been pointed out repeatedly but Ashley is NOT racist. She merely doesn't believe we need "aliens" to further HUMAN goals. She even compliments and shows compassion to the other non-humans in the crew and that you meet.

I really wish people would stop just regurgitating things they read somewhere without paying attention to how she really acted.

OT - I think Jack and Miranda are the most unattractive of the series by far, looks and personality both hollow and boring. While Ashley isn't a beauty queen I did find her semi-attractive and interesting. Though I will say without shame that I am a Tali fanboy 100%.

I know that but that's how it comes off to ME. Everything is subjective. It's just she seems...I don't know...I find that I warmed up to her in later playthroughs cause I experimented with my team makeup a lot so I saw more that I missed. But...it's just how she comes off to me. If she doesn't to you that's fine but that's how I see it....So I guess I'm that Turian in ME2 arguing with that woman at C-sec...>.>