Mass Effect the sci-fi equivilant to LOTR?

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FoAmY99

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I'd like to think so. The plots are somewhat similar, Group of people assemble to take on a threat that threatens existence as they know it. As for the characters well this is what i've come up with so far:

Merry/Kaiden
Pippin/Ashley
Aragorn/Shepard
Legolas/Garrus
Gimil/Wrex or Grunt
Arwen/Tali (don't *****, Tali was awesome and you all know it)
Éowyn/Liara
Saruman/Saren
Sauron/Sovereign or Harbinger
Gandalf/Anderson
Frodo/Shepard (just because he's on an epic quest and all and NOTHING MORE!)
Sam/Joker
 

Richard Hannay

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FoAmY99 said:
The plots are somewhat similar, Group of people assemble to take on a threat that threatens existence as they know it.
I feel like this is the most common sci-fi/fantasy plot ever, actually. What really sets LOTR apart is the richness of the universe, in which case the sci-fi equivalent is almost certainly Dune. Not that the ME universe isn't rich, but? Dune.
 

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Richard Hannay said:
FoAmY99 said:
The plots are somewhat similar, Group of people assemble to take on a threat that threatens existence as they know it.
I feel like this is the most common sci-fi/fantasy plot ever, actually. What really sets LOTR apart is the richness of the universe, in which case the sci-fi equivalent is almost certainly Dune. Not that the ME universe isn't rich, but? Dune.
lets not forget that ME isn't finished yet. We still have Mass Effect 3 to get through. And i'm positive that Bioware is going to throw tons more useless yet very interesting information in to the Codex for the final chapter.
 

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LordNue said:
You're kidding right, OP? Just because you can draw some parallels to something doesn't mean it's an equivalent. Mass Effect might have a decent story but it's not even close to being to Sci-Fi what LOTR is to Fantasy. It never will be.
I second that.
 

Cherry Cola

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And here I thought it would be enough with people comparing ME to Star Wars.

Of course, I was wrong.
 

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Isn't that Star Wars? Besides, I don't think it was intended to be an equivalent. Also, a group of people trying to stop a threat that might destroy everything...

Hmm... Where have I heard that before? I don't recall the BILLIONS OF FUCKING MOVIES/BOOKS/VIDEO GAMES in the last few DECADES.
 

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Not very fleshed out parallels, but I suppose most "epic" action/adventure stories follow similar motifs. A balance of new and familiar elements is what makes stories great.
 

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Really? I think perhaps you should read some more Sci fi. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at what you'll find if you think ME is equivalent to LOTR.

Some sci fi trilogies/series I would recommend you try (these are the first titles in the series):
A Call to Arms by Alan Dean Foster
Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card
Dune by Frank Herbert
To your Scattered Bodies Go by Philip Jose Farmer

And of course, there are a number of sci fi one offs that are excellent as well.
 

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Hi,

Long time lurker and this is my first official post. I literally joined this forum just to tell you that you're wrong. And here's the many reasons why.

1. LOTR is the most important epic written since... like... Gilgamesh. Seriously, every epic since LOTR is just people digging through Tolkien's garbage and pasting whatever skin on top of it. Kind of like Buffalo Bill. Only more creative. Mass Effect, is at best a juvenile 2-dimensional "SHOOT THE BAD GUY BECAUSE HE LOOKS DIFFERENT" story, with much better dialogue. Think Halo if they were serious about the writing.

2. The characters in LOTR were more human (even those who weren't human) than ANY of the characters in mass effect. Take for example the main character in LOTR being Frodo. He is a 3ft tall hobbit with no real skills in fighting or anything. He was the everyman. He had every skill necessary to do nothing that was asked of him. Yet, through perseverance and pushing through many trials, he overcame, but was still in the end not that strong, brave or powerful. He just did what needed to be done. Shepard on the other hand, is Hollywood Everyman. In that he is what people wish they were. Strong, brave, seemingly good at everything, never flawed or faulty and everyone around him falls in love with him immediately. Which, I'm sure that most of you people on the internet can totally relate to. Maybe that's why you made this thread.

3. The universe of LOTR is complete with hardly any holes in it. The history is vast and the races within have absurd depth to them. Each race seemingly has its own economy and vastness to them. They have individualism... you know, like real life. They struggle, they have problems and economical issues. There's a lot of plotholes in ME. Lots. None of the races ever seem to be in any real problem that doesn't directly involve them being a plot tool. Krogans are sick OMG. A lot of the social intricacies of the whole world in LOTR are inconsequential to the plot.

4. How fucking dare you?
 

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ROBOPUNCH said:
Hi,

Long time lurker and this is my first official post. I literally joined this forum just to tell you that you're wrong. And here's the many reasons why.

1. LOTR is the most important epic written since... like... Gilgamesh. Seriously, every epic since LOTR is just people digging through Tolkien's garbage and pasting whatever skin on top of it. Kind of like Buffalo Bill. Only more creative. Mass Effect, is at best a juvenile 2-dimensional "SHOOT THE BAD GUY BECAUSE HE LOOKS DIFFERENT" story, with much better dialogue. Think Halo if they were serious about the writing.

2. The characters in LOTR were more human (even those who weren't human) than ANY of the characters in mass effect. Take for example the main character in LOTR being Frodo. He is a 3ft tall hobbit with no real skills in fighting or anything. He was the everyman. He had every skill necessary to do nothing that was asked of him. Yet, through perseverance and pushing through many trials, he overcame, but was still in the end not that strong, brave or powerful. He just did what needed to be done. Shepard on the other hand, is Hollywood Everyman. In that he is what people wish they were. Strong, brave, seemingly good at everything, never flawed or faulty and everyone around him falls in love with him immediately. Which, I'm sure that most of you people on the internet can totally relate to. Maybe that's why you made this thread.

3. The universe of LOTR is complete with hardly any holes in it. The history is vast and the races within have absurd depth to them. Each race seemingly has its own economy and vastness to them. They have individualism... you know, like real life. They struggle, they have problems and economical issues. There's a lot of plotholes in ME. Lots. None of the races ever seem to be in any real problem that doesn't directly involve them being a plot tool. Krogans are sick OMG. A lot of the social intricacies of the whole world in LOTR are inconsequential to the plot.

4. How fucking dare you?
Outside #4 as he said.

Just because I don't use that language normally.
 

Huxleykrcc

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Group of people assemble to take on a threat that threatens existence as they know it.
...'Cause that never happens in any other story?

Seriously.


What the hell?
 

Henrik Persson

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Wow, this is about as far off as you can get. LotR is a fantastic story that's poorly told and ME is a poor story that's fantastically told. Your character parallels are completly off, those people have nothing in common whatsoever, except for the bad guys that fits a little. The only thing the plot has in common is that it's a fellowship that's facing evil, which is pretty damn vague.

No. Just no.
 

Zannah

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Henrik Persson said:
Wow, this is about as far off as you can get. LotR is a fantastic story that's poorly told and ME is a poor story that's fantastically told. Your character parallels are completly off, those people have nothing in common whatsoever, except for the bad guys that fits a little. The only thing the plot has in common is that it's a fellowship that's facing evil, which is pretty damn vague.

No. Just no.
Quoted for truth. Bioware does proper writing, wich means thy're pretty far from everything tolkien ever did... I respect the man for inventing a language, but the stories he wrote...
 

latenightapplepie

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Everyone relax. The OP wasn't comparing them in quality. Sure, the thing with the character equivalents was a little silly, but in my opinion, the OP correctly identifies that they are both 'epic' in a pretty general sense.

EDIT: I should amend the final point that Tolkien's trilogy is very 'epic', whilst Bioware's is perhaps only partly.
 

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Well if that's your point then this is mine:

Every post LotR fantasy is equivalent to LotR. Pretty much.

ME pales in comparison to LotR in pretty much every aspect. I founf the second part to be lacklustre at best.
 

Huxleykrcc

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Zannah said:
Henrik Persson said:
Wow, this is about as far off as you can get. LotR is a fantastic story that's poorly told and ME is a poor story that's fantastically told. Your character parallels are completly off, those people have nothing in common whatsoever, except for the bad guys that fits a little. The only thing the plot has in common is that it's a fellowship that's facing evil, which is pretty damn vague.

No. Just no.
Quoted for truth. Bioware does proper writing, wich means thy're pretty far from everything tolkien ever did... I respect the man for inventing a language, but the stories he wrote...
Tolkien was a better writer than anyone at Bioware. Mass Effect (both games) has stellar writing...for a video game. It's no better than Harry Potter (which is good but overrated, in my book), and Tolkien was a masterful writer.

Exciting? Well, no, not usually. But that's not the only mark of a good book.