Massive changes in sequels.
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Devil May Cry 3 to 4. DMC4 focused on Nero, who (I may be mistaken, never actually played the full game, so feel free to correct me), only seemed to use a single type of sword and gun. I much preferred DMC3s choice of weaponry. Gave you a lot more options and flexibility.
Also, Final Fantasy 6 to Final Fantasy 7. The game went a lot more mainstream, and a lot more emo. I still liked it, but nowhere near as much as 6.
Oh, and Dynasty Warriors to Dynasty Warriors 2. DW1 was a beat 'em up, DW2 onwards were hack and slash, as they are now.
...Yeah, I could name these off all day, but I'll stop now.
Also, Final Fantasy 6 to Final Fantasy 7. The game went a lot more mainstream, and a lot more emo. I still liked it, but nowhere near as much as 6.
Oh, and Dynasty Warriors to Dynasty Warriors 2. DW1 was a beat 'em up, DW2 onwards were hack and slash, as they are now.
...Yeah, I could name these off all day, but I'll stop now.
Deus Ex to Deus Ex: Invisible War. They changed one of the deepest, most complete rpg/fps hybrids into this dumbed-down version with levels that consist of two rooms and a hallway, uninteresting characters and horrible gameplay choices.
Devil May Cry 2 to Devil May Cry 3. Capcom went from handing the reigns to a different team with out the original developers consent to handing things back to the original developers who intern developed a game better that every other in the series combined.
Sonic & Knuckles to Sonic Adventure. Four years between these games made them very different from each other.
Sonic & Knuckles to Sonic Adventure. Four years between these games made them very different from each other.
Thanks for introducing me to this, 360 is lacking in the action rpg department this year!Pezzer said:
Does Team Fortress 2 count? If not:
Chrono Cross (from Chrono Trigger),
Metal Gear Solid (from Metal Gear 2),
Warcraft III (from Warcraft II),
Bionic Commando (from the NES original)...
But the biggest culprit that also jumped the shark was ... *drumroll* ... Final Fantasy X-2.
Chrono Cross (from Chrono Trigger),
Metal Gear Solid (from Metal Gear 2),
Warcraft III (from Warcraft II),
Bionic Commando (from the NES original)...
But the biggest culprit that also jumped the shark was ... *drumroll* ... Final Fantasy X-2.
needausername said:
I dont think it counts when there is 5+ years between the games. Of course they will be different if that many years of technologocal progress go by without a sequel.Cuniculus said:
While Fallout 3 is a good game, and one of my favorites out there, I am one of those who maintains it's not a real Fallout game even in spirit. I could go on and on about this, but it's really not that important. I simply think Bethesda should have developed their own post apocolyptic RPG franchise under the current engine as opposed to trying to make a Fallout sequel when simply put they don't have the audacity to do it right anymore. Basically if your going to back down to Australian censors over issues like animations of a guy sticking a needle in his arm, then you really aren't going to make a game messed up enough to truely carry on with the franchise.
People talk about things like "what is the big deal with killing children?" well the point is that Fallout is supposed to be messed up enough where you can do stuff like that if you want to. However in Fallout 3 they have this retarded commune of Beyond Thunderdome child rejects who even point guns at you, and you can't shoot them if you want to (and really if your an evilly aligned callous killer I can't see why you wouldn't, especially seeing as they are in the way of a major objective).
At any rate, the actual point of this is that Fallout 3 is not "massive changes between sequels" it's an entirely differant game (albeit a very, very good one) with the Fallout name printed on the box and a few names lifted from that series (ie Brotherhood Of Steel, Mentats, etc...).
When it comes to Divine Divinity, I think that game was absolutly awesome and one of the best games of it's type ever. I don't think it was ever really topped at what it set out to do until Sacred 2.
It did however already have a sequel called "Beyond Divinity" which was simply put an absolute nightmare, missing everything that made the first game cool. Basically you get this hero and the "evil side of his soul" which is a death knight, working together in a pretty linear top down enviroment. It was pretty "blah" and I'm a guy who tried hard to like it.
A new game in the series should rightfully be named 3... and ummm... I expect the graphics to update, but really this one was about the gameplay. The lost a lot of trust from me with the last Divine Divinity sequel to the point of me considering it a dead liscence more or less. I don't care how pretty it looks, it's going to take some convincing to win me back after a sequel so bad it probably should have gotten them taken up before the UN for crimes against humanity.
People talk about things like "what is the big deal with killing children?" well the point is that Fallout is supposed to be messed up enough where you can do stuff like that if you want to. However in Fallout 3 they have this retarded commune of Beyond Thunderdome child rejects who even point guns at you, and you can't shoot them if you want to (and really if your an evilly aligned callous killer I can't see why you wouldn't, especially seeing as they are in the way of a major objective).
At any rate, the actual point of this is that Fallout 3 is not "massive changes between sequels" it's an entirely differant game (albeit a very, very good one) with the Fallout name printed on the box and a few names lifted from that series (ie Brotherhood Of Steel, Mentats, etc...).
When it comes to Divine Divinity, I think that game was absolutly awesome and one of the best games of it's type ever. I don't think it was ever really topped at what it set out to do until Sacred 2.
It did however already have a sequel called "Beyond Divinity" which was simply put an absolute nightmare, missing everything that made the first game cool. Basically you get this hero and the "evil side of his soul" which is a death knight, working together in a pretty linear top down enviroment. It was pretty "blah" and I'm a guy who tried hard to like it.
A new game in the series should rightfully be named 3... and ummm... I expect the graphics to update, but really this one was about the gameplay. The lost a lot of trust from me with the last Divine Divinity sequel to the point of me considering it a dead liscence more or less. I don't care how pretty it looks, it's going to take some convincing to win me back after a sequel so bad it probably should have gotten them taken up before the UN for crimes against humanity.
GTA 1 and GTA 2. imo after those games GTA was killed was never the same and never as fun.i miss the killing sprees with the flamethrower 
Pezzer said:Many games have huge changes from their original to its sequel, even in a short space of time.
For example divine divinity to the upcoming sequel divinity 2 (although that's only in graphics as far as I can tell so far).
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Any other examples, feel free to rant, ramble or rejoice about them as much as you like.
Divine Divinity i love that game...
im gonna play that now actually and... wait... theres a (good) sequel? (beyond divinity... i really didnt like it)