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omega 616

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moretimethansense said:
omega 616 said:
moretimethansense said:
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Some things need to be censored, I think it would be wrong to sit down and watch a porno with the kids. Kids need to be kept innocent, they have the rest of there life to be corrupted and I think these things are just speeding up that process.

My faith in humanity is far from strong.

Were never going to agree on it so continuing this is a little futile.
It's not for kids, kids aren't supposed to see it so on that point you've got no argument

also there is a good reason it's called the story,
you can't say that a story is pointless because you don't like the content.

Frankly I think that you should read this before judging it but as you said we are never going to agree so let's leave it at that.

EDIT by "this" I mean the manga in question
For clarification. I know it's not for kids, I never said any story was pointless and I will leave the last one due to wanting to stop this debate.
 

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moretimethansense said:
Don't suppose you could an example of on of these places?
They are all mainly sites that have huge amounts of adult content along with everything I mentioned earlier, and I honestly forget if I'm allowed to link to those kinds of sites on these forums or not. I'm also way too lazy to check about that right now. lol
 

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omega 616 said:
moretimethansense said:
I hate that argument because no matter my reasoning or how eloquent my defense I'm going to come across as an irredeemable pervert so basically all I can do is show you that it isn't simply a manga for pervs but that it has interesting characters and a well developed story not to mention it's funny as hell.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KodomoNoJikan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodomo_no_jikan
but of course like everyone who makes that argument nothing I show you will change your opinion so the best I can say is why would anyone play a game where your only objective is to kill people horribly?
There is no sound reason to couple kids with sex, that is begging for trouble.

I enjoy killing people in games (I get bored of going on killing sprees in GTA/prototype etc though), as a society we have become desensitized to violence though films, books and games. We also have a massive blood lust, from gladiators to cage fighters to wars to hunting, we love violence.

It might be somewhat acceptable in Japan and China to read or watch children or child like characters be involved in sexual things (I don't mean it to sound like every one of them has kids acting like prostitutes or sexually charged) but in the US and the Uk as soon as you say kids and sex in the same sentence people get a bitter taste in there mouths.

There are some people saying there should be no censorship but I think there should be boundaries and kids and sex is one of them.

Even kids know it's wrong, if you take a baby and sexually abuse it, it will know something is wrong even though it's never been taught otherwise.

Some things should just be kept separate to me. It seems most of you are ok with it, which makes me think are are you kind of okay with kiddie fiddlers? It's almost like you can understand it.

I don't want to insult anybody or anything, I just have a hard time accepting your angry people are wanting to censor this.
i dont disagree with you in the slightest but i do have one nitpick about this post - youre argument is 'sure, killing is bad but everyone is used to it in games and stuff so its all good.' if in ten years time child molestation is still considered illegal but is so common in videogames, tv shows and so on (like murder is now) that its publicly acceptable as long as you dont actually do it, what would be your opinion then?

on topic, i have three thoughts on this. child pornography is irrefutably immoral, and child abuse of any kind is unforgivable. i cant disagree with anyone trying to stop it from being distributed. however a large number of the manga being taken down is not child porn, some doesnt even have porn of any form in it, and almost all of it was behind adult warnings intended to stop children from seeing it. kids werent supposed to see it, and as even the worst of it is just drawn kids werent involved in the making of it, anyone crying 'please think of the children' on this one is full of it. finally (and most importantly) if the manga is a breach of contract, google has every right to say take em down or we leave. tough luck. im annoyed that a couple of violent but not sexual and certainly not underage-sexual mangas i am currently reading being taken down, but it happens. i just have to find a new site.
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@ Dragon
I can't say exactly what has been taken down but most anything with a mature label a few series I know for certain have been taken down are:
Kodomo no Jikan
Dance in the Vampire Bund
Sekirei
Futari no Ecchi
Freezing
Wolf Guy - Wolfen Crest
Onomori Himari
Onihime VS
Princess Resurrection
Yume de Aetara
Umi no Misaki
Saikano
Elfen Lied
And any number of others that I don't know by name
I'll be the first to admitt that most of these mangas are fucked up (elfen lied is on the line of FUBAR) but this is a matter of principle. If an adult can't enjoy adult things because "it might hurt the children" then I do not want to be apart of this any longer.
goodbye, I am now going to jettison to another dimension.
 

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moretimethansense said:
As some of you may be aware thanks to this troll;

http://l7world.com/2010/04/google-sponsors-child-pornography.html

Claiming that Google is sponsoring child pornography by advertising on manga hosting sites almost all mature content has been removed from manga hosting sites Mangafox and Onemanga Regardless of content.

Now as you can probably tell from my angry tone of voice that this pisses me off somewhat and I for one won't put up with being told what I should and shouldn't read I have signed the following petition to put a stop to this shit and if you believe in freedom of expression and the right of an adult to choose what they do or do not read please please sign this petition to have Google change it's policy to allow for advertisements on sites that host mature content if it is labeled as such please sign or at least read it and see if you agree.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/StopAnimeRemoval/
If you had read the thing on onemanga, they are REVIEWING all mature content and whatever they view as ok, they'll repost.

OneManga said:
[Update: To clarify, we are not removing all the mature content forever. We are simply removing them until we have time to manually check the content of the series. As series get cleared, we will add them back.]

We are currently doing a sweep of all mature series on the site to look for and remove images that are deemed pornographic.

During this time, all mature series will be unavailable for viewing. We will post an update here once the sweep has been completed. Some series will be coming back. Others will not. Hopefully the final outcome will not be too bad.

We are sorry for the inconvenience during this time, but do understand that in the USA, there is very low tolerance for pornographic content on sites like OneManga that attract a sizable crowd of younger readers. If we do not do a sweep like this, OneManga may be closed forever.

Thanks for your support and understanding.
 

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evilstonermonkey said:
i dont disagree with you in the slightest but i do have one nitpick about this post - youre argument is 'sure, killing is bad but everyone is used to it in games and stuff so its all good.' if in ten years time child molestation is still considered illegal but is so common in videogames, tv shows and so on (like murder is now) that its publicly acceptable as long as you dont actually do it, what would be your opinion then?

on topic, i have three thoughts on this. child pornography is irrefutably immoral, and child abuse of any kind is unforgivable. i cant disagree with anyone trying to stop it from being distributed. however a large number of the manga being taken down is not child porn, some doesnt even have porn of any form in it, and almost all of it was behind adult warnings intended to stop children from seeing it. kids werent supposed to see it, and as even the worst of it is just drawn kids werent involved in the making of it, anyone crying 'please think of the children' on this one is full of it. finally (and most importantly) if the manga is a breach of contract, google has every right to say take em down or we leave. tough luck. im annoyed that a couple of violent but not sexual and certainly not underage-sexual mangas i am currently reading being taken down, but it happens. i just have to find a new site.
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My opinion is humans should be annihilated, if we find (what I call) cartoons with child like characters being sexually active or doing anything sexual then we really have sunk as low as possible without actually touching kids.

I don't want to use the "there doing it in games so they must want to do it in real life" argument 'cos I have been playing 18 games since I was 7-ish but I can understand violence in games as scratching the itch for violence. I cannot understand wanting kids being sexualized in books/films, I hope there isn't an itch for wanting that or people have an interest in it.

Even if you look at it from a sexulized kind of way (and I really don't want to do this and I feel all kinds of dirty for doing it) but what is sexually attractive about kids? I can only guess is it's illeagl. Grown women are far more attractive and developed, so why not use them in these things?

Why do you even need sexual content anyway, thats what porn or an actual woman is for.

(I don't mean to reduce the role of every woman in the world to that of a male sex toy, I am just keeping it in context)
 

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Wow there's been a few posts since last I checked
generic gamer said:
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Now can we just let this rest already? Regardless of the fact that Google has been ignoring it up until now, these sites breached the AdSense Terms of Service.
We know what the terms of service are, we dissagree with them and are trying to get them changed that is the point of the petition it probobly won't work but if we don't complain nothing will change.
Ok...yeah I've thought it through so here goes.

You're pissed off because a company that was offering adult themed manga for free (which incidentally is committing a crime) was told by a major company with transparent terms of service that if they didn't stop doing this they couldn't sponsor them any more? To clarify, you're pissed off because of a contractual dispute between two companies? A dispute over breach of a contract that was agreed to?

*Snip*

This isn't a rights issue, or some kind of media censorship. This is, to be blunt guys, Google thinking that being connected with people who jerk off over drawings of children naked might harm its' business just a teensy weensy bit.

Not that i'm saying anyone here jer...oh to hell with it, you're all smart guys.
Point 1: Yeah pretty much

Point 2: What's being taken down isn't porn it's pretty much any mature manga that is being misconstued as porn
as for kojikan and DitVB they are stories that just happen to have overly sexualized childeren in them much like(and i've said this a few times now)Lolita and even a number of (western made) novels that I can't remember the names of

NekoiHiokans said:
moretimethansense said:
As some of you may be aware thanks to this troll;

http://l7world.com/2010/04/google-sponsors-child-pornography.html

Claiming that Google is sponsoring child pornography by advertising on manga hosting sites almost all mature content has been removed from manga hosting sites Mangafox and Onemanga Regardless of content.

Now as you can probably tell from my angry tone of voice that this pisses me off somewhat and I for one won't put up with being told what I should and shouldn't read I have signed the following petition to put a stop to this shit and if you believe in freedom of expression and the right of an adult to choose what they do or do not read please please sign this petition to have Google change it's policy to allow for advertisements on sites that host mature content if it is labeled as such please sign or at least read it and see if you agree.

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/StopAnimeRemoval/
If you had read the thing on onemanga, they are REVIEWING all mature content and whatever they view as ok, they'll repost.

OneManga said:
[Update: To clarify, we are not removing all the mature content forever. We are simply removing them until we have time to manually check the content of the series. As series get cleared, we will add them back.]

We are currently doing a sweep of all mature series on the site to look for and remove images that are deemed pornographic.

During this time, all mature series will be unavailable for viewing. We will post an update here once the sweep has been completed. Some series will be coming back. Others will not. Hopefully the final outcome will not be too bad.

We are sorry for the inconvenience during this time, but do understand that in the USA, there is very low tolerance for pornographic content on sites like OneManga that attract a sizable crowd of younger readers. If we do not do a sweep like this, OneManga may be closed forever.

Thanks for your support and understanding.
the problem is that sereis that are "deemed pornographic" won't be coming back.
OneManga has never hosted actual porn on it's site but quite a number of the seires that have been taken down do have some nudity in them the problem is context, what is fanservice for one is porn to another
omega 616 said:
evilstonermonkey said:
i dont disagree with you in the slightest but i do have one nitpick about this post - youre argument is 'sure, killing is bad but everyone is used to it in games and stuff so its all good.' if in ten years time child molestation is still considered illegal but is so common in videogames, tv shows and so on (like murder is now) that its publicly acceptable as long as you dont actually do it, what would be your opinion then?

on topic, i have three thoughts on this. child pornography is irrefutably immoral, and child abuse of any kind is unforgivable. i cant disagree with anyone trying to stop it from being distributed. however a large number of the manga being taken down is not child porn, some doesnt even have porn of any form in it, and almost all of it was behind adult warnings intended to stop children from seeing it. kids werent supposed to see it, and as even the worst of it is just drawn kids werent involved in the making of it, anyone crying 'please think of the children' on this one is full of it. finally (and most importantly) if the manga is a breach of contract, google has every right to say take em down or we leave. tough luck. im annoyed that a couple of violent but not sexual and certainly not underage-sexual mangas i am currently reading being taken down, but it happens. i just have to find a new site.
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My opinion is humans should be annihilated, if we find (what I call) cartoons with child like characters being sexually active or doing anything sexual then we really have sunk as low as possible without actually touching kids.

I don't want to use the "there doing it in games so they must want to do it in real life" argument 'cos I have been playing 18 games since I was 7-ish but I can understand violence in games as scratching the itch for violence. I cannot understand wanting kids being sexualized in books/films, I hope there isn't an itch for wanting that or people have an interest in it.

Even if you look at it from a sexulized kind of way (and I really don't want to do this and I feel all kinds of dirty for doing it) but what is sexually attractive about kids? I can only guess is it's illeagl. Grown women are far more attractive and developed, so why not use them in these things?

Why do you even need sexual content anyway, thats what porn or an actual woman is for.

(I don't mean to reduce the role of every woman in the world to that of a male sex toy, I am just keeping it in context)
Some people Just have odd fetishes just because you don't find it attractive doesn't mean someone else wont, like me for example I REALLY love feet.
 

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omega 616 said:
My opinion is humans should be annihilated, if we find (what I call) cartoons with child like characters being sexually active or doing anything sexual then we really have sunk as low as possible without actually touching kids.

I don't want to use the "there doing it in games so they must want to do it in real life" argument 'cos I have been playing 18 games since I was 7-ish but I can understand violence in games as scratching the itch for violence. I cannot understand wanting kids being sexualized in books/films, I hope there isn't an itch for wanting that or people have an interest in it.

Even if you look at it from a sexulized kind of way (and I really don't want to do this and I feel all kinds of dirty for doing it) but what is sexually attractive about kids? I can only guess is it's illeagl. Grown women are far more attractive and developed, so why not use them in these things?

Why do you even need sexual content anyway, thats what porn or an actual woman is for.

(I don't mean to reduce the role of every woman in the world to that of a male sex toy, I am just keeping it in context)
genocidal misanthropy, thats a gig i can get behind. if you want to know what a person can find sexy about a kid, i imagine its similar to anyone else - what you find attractive is what you find attractive. i like punk chicks with big tits and blue hair, while my best friend doesnt understand how i can find blue hair bearable, let alone hot, and claims that more than a handful is a waste. some people find chubby sexy. some people have a preference for blondes. and unfortunately some sick fucks like children.

as for the question at the end, people dont need sexual content - they want it. people are sexual beings and they enjoy sexual material. it is everywhere - bikini girls in tv ads, supermodels on billboards. even good old marvel and dc comics slip in as much as they think they can get away with so manga is nothing special in that department. its merely less regulated in that respect, mainly due to cultural difference. personally? i am actually turned off by overt, gratuitous sexualisation and i doubt im the only one. but it makes money.
 

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moretimethansense said:
the problem is that series that are "deemed pornographic" won't be coming back.OneManga has never hosted actual porn on it's site but quite a number of the series that have been taken down do have some nudity in them the problem is context, what is fanservice for one is porn to another
If they were going through it for stuff like that, Ouran would be gone...it freaking hints at incest for crying out loud!!! I think some of the fan-service stuff will be just fine, you just have to place your trust in them...and here's to hoping someone post Hetalia: Axis Powers on there soon...while they aren't looking.
 

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moretimethansense said:
Some people Just have odd fetishes just because you don't find it attractive doesn't mean someone else wont, like me for example I REALLY love feet.
And bingo was his nameo, finding kids attractive (I dare you to say "I didn't mean it like that", jokes) is plain wrong, no matter how you spin it. kids should be as far from sex as Toronto and Perth (Aus).

Alot of people love feet, shame that alot of people like abusing kids aswell. (not aimed at anybody on here ... honest!)

quote="evilstonermonkey" post="18.191857.6040796"]genocidal misanthropy, thats a gig i can get behind. if you want to know what a person can find sexy about a kid, i imagine its similar to anyone else - what you find attractive is what you find attractive. i like punk chicks with big tits and blue hair, while my best friend doesnt understand how i can find blue hair bearable, let alone hot, and claims that more than a handful is a waste. some people find chubby sexy. some people have a preference for blondes. and unfortunately some sick fucks like children.

as for the question at the end, people dont need sexual content - they want it. people are sexual beings and they enjoy sexual material. it is everywhere - bikini girls in tv ads, supermodels on billboards. even good old marvel and dc comics slip in as much as they think they can get away with so manga is nothing special in that department. its merely less regulated in that respect, mainly due to cultural difference. personally? i am actually turned off by overt, gratuitous sexualisation and i doubt im the only one. but it makes money.[/quote]

Is my loathing of the human population that evident? Aww shucks.

I am usually a "you like what you like" kind of fellow, till somebody asks my opinion and I give it to them. So I can understand liking blondes/brown/wacky haired, flat chested to a woman (who actually exists) who has a bra size of "72 ZZZ", tall-short, fat-thin etc but kids? I have to assume it's an innocence or an illeagl attraction, you can find innocent looking women though.

I know sex sells and men think about it every few seconds etc etc but think of it like an infinate pile of (to keep in touch with the escapist) cookies, first your like "im in heaven" then after 50 or 60 cookies your a bit sick of cookies. It's the same for sexual content, you can't watch anything Within reason) without having a scantly clad lady on screen or a quick game of tonsil tennis.
 

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don't really care, the only mature one i follow is claymore.
and that comes out once a month or something.
 

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Frankly, I don't like lolicon or shota stuff, it just doesn't sit well with me. So like a reasonable person I've learned to simply avoid it (I stay happy not reading and everyone else is happy reading it). I look with disdain on anyone who plays the ToS card to further their own messed up moral agenda (see people upset with swearing in WoW) and the reason why it often angers me is because when people play the ToS card there is not much you can do to fight back other than call them a douche and hope no one listens to them.

Who is this prick and why are people listening to him anyway?
 

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NekoiHiokans said:
moretimethansense said:
the problem is that series that are "deemed pornographic" won't be coming back.OneManga has never hosted actual porn on it's site but quite a number of the series that have been taken down do have some nudity in them the problem is context, what is fanservice for one is porn to another
If they were going through it for stuff like that, Ouran would be gone...it freaking hints at incest for crying out loud!!! I think some of the fan-service stuff will be just fine, you just have to place your trust in them...and here's to hoping someone post Hetalia: Axis Powers on there soon...while they aren't looking.
Here's hoping

omega 616 said:
moretimethansense said:
Some people Just have odd fetishes just because you don't find it attractive doesn't mean someone else wont, like me for example I REALLY love feet.
And bingo was his nameo, finding kids attractive (I dare you to say "I didn't mean it like that", jokes) is plain wrong, no matter how you spin it. kids should be as far from sex as Toronto and Perth (Aus).

Alot of people love feet, shame that alot of people like abusing kids aswell. (not aimed at anybody on here ... honest!)
Why would I say that isn't what I meant? thats exactly what I meant
yes abusing childeren is wrong but no child is being abused here
some people have fetishes that they can't help but that doesn't mean they're going to act on them

If I acted on my fetishes I would most definatly be in jail right now
 

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What upsets me about things like this, is that when it happens, its always someone going 'Oh! Japanese people look at these sick cartoons or games where you rape or hurt woman and children! And do many deplorable acts! Sponsors and news casters! Take up arms and ***** ***** ***** until its censored!!' - but their are American mediums depicting the same stuff!

I can buy/read online (probably with a Kindle too if I had one)/and if I choose to pirate tones of American made novels and comics that are strictly erotic in nature that feature anything from stalking and raping school girls, incest, molestation, women slavery, bestiality, a whole shit storm of stuff that these type of people get up in arms about.

In fact a gallery site I go to for my manga (not affected by this)host stuff from all over the world, and if I forget to switch filters while searching I find western comics, tons of them, with crazy stuff in them. Yet no body over here seems to get up in arms if its made in the states.

That's really what makes me angry.
 

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moretimethansense said:
Why would I say that isn't what I meant? thats exactly what I meant
yes abusing childeren is wrong but no child is being abused here
some people have fetishes that they can't help but that doesn't mean they're going to act on them

If I acted on my fetishes I would most definatly be in jail right now
Was a joke.

I know no children are being abused but your imagining or taking an interest in children doing sexual things, dry humping to heal people? If it was a 30 year old doing it, it would be funny, a kid doing it disturbs me.
 

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generic gamer said:
moretimethansense said:
Point 1: Yeah pretty much

Point 2: What's being taken down isn't porn it's pretty much any mature manga that is being misconstued as porn
as for kojikan and DitVB they are stories that just happen to have overly sexualized childeren in them much like(and i've said this a few times now)Lolita and even a number of (western made) novels that I can't remember the names of
Well, point 1 is that they breached terms of service, they can keep stuff up that Google deems pornographic but they can't expect Google to sponsor it. It can still be there, but Google has a right to withdraw its' co-operation if the content doesn't meet their standards.Like I said with Elfen Lied (incidentally I wish you hadn't snipped that middle bit, I was trying to make a point) it's not pornographic but it does breach common decency, it's clearly not porn but if I had to watch my image for any reason I'd probably hide my copies.

Point 2 is more of a cultural divide, but it's hard to picture a story that just happens to have sexualised children in it. With the example of DiVB, does the character need to be a child? I know about the rationalisation behind that one, but frankly it sounds more like they really wanted the character to be a child and had to work it in to the plot than the character had to be a child for plot purposes. Lolita didn't happen to ahve a sexualised child as a character, the whole book was about the unhealthy attraction between the protagonist and Lolita. incidentally, Lolita has caused a lot of international controversy and was banned for a good time, owning a copy is still seen as socially questionable.

One of the important things to note is that the age of consent in japan is thirteen, though different prefectures (districts) can raise that. There is a massive cultural gap there, you can't take something from one society to another and expect them to be ok with it. There is a culture of worship towards Japan in the anime/manga circles but Japanese culture is neither a universal norm nor necessarily desirable to emulate. There are precedents for cultures banning things that are legal in other cultures.
On the *snip*ed part yeah they DO have the right but you can use google to find some VERY VERY disturbing stuff and it seems hypocritical to demand the removal of this stuff and not minding being linked to what is technically an otherwise illegal site

also wouldn't it be possible to just remove google's ads from those manga that warrant a "Contains nudity" tag?

And as for the comment about characters not needing to be underage? yes yes they do in fact it's kinda the point for bots bund and jikan try reading them sometime and you'll see why neither would work if the characters were of age.

Rosen2012 said:
What upsets me about things like this, is that when it happens, its always someone going 'Oh! Japanese people look at these sick cartoons or games where you rape or hurt woman and children! And do many deplorable acts! Sponsors and news casters! Take up arms and ***** ***** ***** until its censored!!' - but their are American mediums depicting the same stuff!

I can buy/read online (probably with a Kindle too if I had one)/and if I choose to pirate tones of American made novels and comics that are strictly erotic in nature that feature anything from stalking and raping school girls, incest, molestation, women slavery, bestiality, a whole shit storm of stuff that these type of people get up in arms about.

In fact a gallery site I go to for my manga (not affected by this)host stuff from all over the world, and if I forget to switch filters while searching I find western comics, tons of them, with crazy stuff in them. Yet no body over here seems to get up in arms if its made in the states.

That's really what makes me angry.
I agree with this wholehartedly
 

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omega 616 said:
moretimethansense said:
Why would I say that isn't what I meant? thats exactly what I meant
yes abusing childeren is wrong but no child is being abused here
some people have fetishes that they can't help but that doesn't mean they're going to act on them

If I acted on my fetishes I would most definitely be in jail right now
Was a joke.

I know no children are being abused but your imagining or taking an interest in children doing sexual things, dry humping to heal people? If it was a 30 year old doing it, it would be funny, a kid doing it disturbs me.
now that's odd because I find it all the funnier for it, especially because of how squicked out the other characters were.