1) People who hated the endings will still hate the endings.
2) People who were OK with the endings, but were upset about the lack of closure will be happier.
3) People who already liked the endings will still like the endings.
Since I fall into the second category, I predict that I will be happier. Hooray me!
Why? This is one of the complains that I don't really get. Do you think it didn't occur to most of those ships that it was probably a one way trip? I mean, yeah, it's not a one-way trip in the way they were probably expecting, but I don't understand why the concept of "You were a big damn hero, now you get to starve to death" is such a problem with people.
Oh, I thought you were talking about the lying star child.
In that case, no, is one of the biggest plot holes in the whole ending.
Spoilers to follow.
Ok, so Wrex talks about having a family and how Shepherd will mean 'hero' in Kroganese. Or something.
He even says this while on Earth, in a positive tone, meaning he wasn't planning to hang around there forever.
Also, the whole Migrant Fleet goes to Earth. Or at least the vast majority of Quarian ships and, as we've established, are where they all live[footnote]Granted, you could argue that civilian populations remained on their home world (if that option was taken) but since that's never mentioned it can only be a hypothesis[/footnote].
This is also ignoring that none of the leaders ever mention or call this a 'one way trip'. Other than expecting casualties from the final engagement, I don't think anyone would have signed up to starve to death in orbit around a war torn planet.
Anyway, I don't think the fleets would be 'brothers in arms' for long when they find out there's no food. Especially the Turians and Quarians.
I'm not sure that you understand what a plot hole is. A plot hole is an inconsistency in the story or an omission of some sort. An example would be Batman Begins, where they use a microwave to boil all the water in Gotham to release nerve gas into the air. But the human body is mostly water, so why didn't it cook everyone in the city if it was powerful enough to rupture water mains?
What you described above isn't inconsistent with anything, it's just unfortunate. They all went to earth and now it seems like they got stranded there unwillingly. That certainly sucks for them, and it probably has some very dire implications, but it's not a plot hole.
hey all went to earth and now it seems like they got stranded there unwillingly. That certainly sucks for them, and it probably has some very dire implications
It is a plot hole because the characters all act as if they will go home. It's still a stupid inconsistency that shouldn't be there.
And you're just nit-picking one particular problem. So if you don't like that one, how do you explain how your squad got back on the Normandy? Why was the Normandy running away? How did Shepherd get shot in the stomach? Where did the blood from the aforementioned wound go? Why does Shepherd not question the star child's assumptions and assertions, going against his established character?
Call them plot holes or inconsistencies, this was a sub-par ending to an otherwise stupendous series of games.
The Extended Cut is out guys! Xbox Live, in all it's wisdom, made the EC essentially hidden on the marketplace. Go to the very end of the extra section in the ME 3 menu. It's there.
I cant even download it. Its giving me a frakking error. So, I tried to download the Skyrim DLC in the meantime, same frakking thing. Grrr.... Maybe its related?
Cannot wait for the hear more on the details of Dawnguard. PC version is still a month or two off so that will have to tide me over.
As for the Mass Effect extended cut, whatever happens hopefully the threads that will pop up will drown out all the feminism and gender politics threads we've been having lately
Ok.... I'm glad the extended cut was free. Cause it certainly wasn't worth buying. It certainly did clear up one or two plot holes for me.... but it is still a terrible ending. Just a better ending then what we were given in the first place.
I only went with RED for this time... i'll pick the blue and green endings later on different characters (or red again with different characters who made other choices). But for now... Skyrim got my attention.
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I predict the the new endings will likely be massive compromises. By which I mean that they still won't be what many people are hoping for. Even excepting that "you can't please everyone" which is quite true, BioWare cannot lose the old multi-coloured nonsense and the Ghost Child drivvel without being seen to be compromising "artistic integrity" or "original vision" or some rubbish like that and admitting that their ending(s) sucked harder than a biotic singularity before.
So new endings...there will likely remain everything up until the "ending machine", the initial videos will probably play as before, but there will be more cutscene of things happening. These things will likely include a flash of surviving squadmates/love interest, a brief shot of the Rachnii queen (if she lived), Cal'Reeger (s/p?) and other surviving NPCs with what they were up to during the battle. Maybe if we're lucky, there'll be an image of Shepard (unlikely), or the aftermath of the player's choice, in the form of a shot of various worlds and how it looks after the war.
So yeah, a big compromise. They'll extend the endings to include more shots of people and places, but in order to stay "true" to the shit endings they originally included, they'll probably keep them shit. I suspect that any hope of an actual "good" ending will be swiftly dashed.
But the current cycle had no idea what it did until they pressed the power button, and they actually had the time to build the entire thing. And it's explicitly stated throughout the series that the Reapers left technology behind to ensure every cycle developed the same technology at roughly the same rate, so there's little sense in another species both figuring out what it did and being able to improve upon the design before they were able to build it to completion.
And they can't have built it to completion, because even if the Crucible isn't built right, its still shown that it destroys all of the Mass Relays when activated.
I'm aware that the races developed the left behind technology at the same rate. Technology is the operative word there, you seem to be skimming over the fact that different people think in different ways, and develop in different ways culturally and this can affect the applications of technologies even if they develop at the same rate. And also, you don't have to know what something does to be able to find flaw in the designor a way to simplify a function, besides, not all of the races developed exactly identically, you only have to look at the races in the current cycle to see that
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