ME3 lovers/haters, can we please reach an understanding?

[putowtin]

1: New game (generally a AAA title, that has had 12 months of build up) is due to be released in 4 weeks.

2: People start making threads about how amazing/crap said game will be.

3: Other people start making threads about how the first thread was wrong and how the game will be crap/amazing.

4: Other other people start making threads about how the other threads are silly and that we should all just get along.

5: Trolls troll, sarcastic people are sarcastic, fans say it's great, non fans say it's crap,

6: Everyone forgets about the threads and arguments a month after the game is released, and discuss the inevitable meme (for Boag).

7: New game (generally a AAA title, that has had 12 months of build up) is due to be released in 4 weeks, the circle is now complete.

 

[boag]

1: New game (generally a AAA title, that has had 12 months of build up) is due to be released in 4 weeks.

2: People start making threads about how amazing/crap said game will be.

3: Other people start making threads about how the first thread was wrong and how the game will be crap/amazing.

4: Other other people start making threads about how the other threads are silly and that we should all just get along.

5: Trolls troll, sarcastic people are sarcastic, fans say it's great, non fans say it's crap,

6: Everyone forgets about the threads and arguments a month after the game is released.

7: New game (generally a AAA title, that has had 12 months of build up) is due to be released in 4 weeks, the circle is now complete.

thats a pretty accurate description, please also add the "meme derived from AAA run into the ground" option in there somewhere.

 

[putowtin]

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thats a pretty accurate description, please also add the "meme derived from AAA run into the ground" option in there somewhere.

now with added goodness on line six!

 

[TD_Knight]

1: New game (generally a AAA title, that has had 12 months of build up) is due to be released in 4 weeks.

2: People start making threads about how amazing/crap said game will be.

3: Other people start making threads about how the first thread was wrong and how the game will be crap/amazing.

4: Other other people start making threads about how the other threads are silly and that we should all just get along.

5: Trolls troll, sarcastic people are sarcastic, fans say it's great, non fans say it's crap,

6: Everyone forgets about the threads and arguments a month after the game is released, and discuss the inevitable meme (for Boag).

7: New game (generally a AAA title, that has had 12 months of build up) is due to be released in 4 weeks, the circle is now complete.

I wonder how much arguing is going to happen when RE6 lurches closer to release date

 

[TheSteeleStrap]

Hmmm... I assumed we were going to wait for it to come out so people could actually play it before we went on a lover/hater crusade.

 

[Clive Howlitzer]

All my complaints are leveled at EA and Origin, not Mass Effect 3. In the end though, why do we have to come to an understanding anyway? If people dislike the game, let them. If you like the game, great!
All my hate is almost always leveled at publisher level bullshit, not developer level. I happened to like Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2 about the same as the first games. I just hate all the corporate bullshit leaking into my games.

 

[Gabanuka]

Here's an idea for everyone in this thread. Get an opinion after you play the fucking game. If you aren't buying said game for some reason then there's no point in bitching since it doesn't affect you.

Those who don't play cannot have an opinion on it those who have can say all they bloody well want.

Happy? Didn't think so.

 

[Telperion]

My main problems with ME2/3/etc. in short:

1) Origin. I don't condone spyware.

2) Lack of story beyond ME1. Great start, boring sequel. The third game's plot is looking very predictable like it was with Halo. It's fine for most developers, but Bioware has always made a big deal about their story writing skills. So, what might be "okay" for others is just "mediocre" for them. Hey, not my fault for raising expectations only to fall short of them.

3) Lack of technical innovation beyond ME1. ME2 is a bit shinier, but a lot more streamlined. Bioware made a lot noise about features that were supposed to be in ME1, and then forgot about them for a more streamlined and story-oriented experience. What exactly happened to ME2's story, though? It's so bland, if you can see beyond the pretty lights and things that go bang. This reminds me of the difference between Diablo 1 and 2: the first game felt tense and scary. The second one vastly improved on game mechanics and graphics, but lost a lot of atmosphere.

4) Cutting fat where there was very little cut in the first place. I like RPG elements in my CRPGs. Okay, so the inventory was crap, but I mainly used it to change between Tungsten and Incendiary ammo depending on the scenario. Not that big of a hassle.

 

[HHammond]

*clap clap clap*

Well said! I wish people could just leave each other alone instead of constantly bitching about how much they dislike a game. Final Fantasy has this problem as well. So you don't like it? Great! Go play something else. So you do like it? Good for you! Don't get all pissy with anyone who doesn't like it!

 

[Sarge034]

Dont forget about the MEME bandwagon, when the new catch phrase gets used more than the town bicycle.

You know, I used to ride the town bicycle..... and then I took an arrow in the spokes.

I'm sorry, but it was too easy. I don't understand why people get sooo mad over these new memes. Even if they are overused all you do is propagate them when you rage.

0.32 to the end is the relevant portion.

You may counter-meme me if you feel it is necessary. Any meme, any meme at all.

Spoiler: I am ready.

I am prepared for the worst...

OT- Aaaannnyyy way instead of hating on the game for things we only know next to nothing about why don't we hate on it for things we do know. I for one despise the plot holes that have been appearing in both ME and DA. It detracts from the importance of my decisions if Bioware is just going to decide to "one size fits all" the plot holes.

It makes me sad. : ? (

 

[aaronobst]

Man all I know is I loved the last two so chances are I'm gonna dig this one also. Screw the haters

 

[Beryl77]

Fans will never reach an understanding. They are just too many and they're too different. If someone likes something, someone else will dislike it and then complain about it. They won't just accept it, just like you complain about the complainers and don't simply accept it that people will always complain.
Take for example the trailers. The trailers for ME2 contained more information about the story that the trailers for ME3. What did people do? They obviously complained about the spoilers. Now there are nearly only action scenes in the trailers and people complain again.

No offense but to me, this thread is just the same as the threads who ***** about ME3. You do basically the same but that's fine, it's what forums are made for. You can say what you don't like and then people have discussions about it. I don't see the problem with the complaints, it's Bioware who has to handle them, not us and they know that whatever they'll do, people will complain.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

Fans will never reach an understanding. They are just too many and they're too different. If someone likes something, someone else will dislike it and then complain about it. They won't just accept it, just like you complain about the complainers and don't simply accept it that people will always complain.
Take for example the trailers. The trailers for ME2 contained more information about the story that the trailers for ME3. What did people do? They obviously complained about the spoilers. Now there are nearly only action scenes in the trailers and people complain again.

No offense but to me, this thread is just the same as the threads who ***** about ME3. You do basically the same but that's fine, it's what forums are made for. You can say what you don't like and then people have discussions about it. I don't see the problem with the complaints, it's Bioware who has to handle them, not us and they know that whatever they'll do, people will complain.

To clarify, I'm not asking people to all suddenly agree on everything and live happily ever after, not only would that be impossible it would also be very boring. My problem is that what's going on right now has passed the stage where you have two sides who disagree and debate fiercely about it, to two sides who disagree and just act like total dick weeds to each other about it for no reason, accomplishing nothing and leaving everyone stupider for the experience.

People are free to like/dislike whatever they want, they are also free to praise/complain about whatever they want. I have no problem with that. All I'm asking is can people please have a little more validity in their arguments, and to show people, even people they're arguing with, some basic level of respect and common courtesy. I am well aware of the greater internet fuckwad theory, but to be honest I'm just sick and tired of it. I don't see why we should all just accept it. Being behind a keyboard does not suddenly make people incapable of being considerate.

 

[RanD00M]

I wish both groups could come to the realization that they are bothing blowing everything out of proportions. And I mean fucking everything, not a single thing that people rave about are thought out or hold any meaning whatsoever. This stems from three things, Biodrones that think that everthing that Bioware touches is like the second coming, Biohaters that think everything that modern Bioware does is absolute shit, and the fact the THE FUCKING GAME ISN'T EVEN FUCKING OUT YET YOU SILY FUCKS.

 

[PotluckBrigand]

I love all the bioware games and dont really care what others say.

well except that sonic game.

I forgot about that game haha it took me a second to figure out what you were referring to. Yes, I did not enjoy that one very much.

One of the problems with the hate for Bioware in particular is that while yes it is true that the Bioware developed the games, they were done largely by different teams within the company, so a lot of the design aesthetics and decision-making is not entirely congruent from game to game. I will admit that when I played through Dragon Age 2 (which I did not enjoy), it made me nervous about Mass Effect 3. Mass Effect 2 is one of my three favorite games ever and I was very upset that perhaps ME3 would fall victim to... well, whatever it is that happened to DA2.

That might certainly be the case. I guess I'll find out next month. I'm purposefully keeping myself in the dark about pretty much everything so I can come into it not knowing anything. Me and my Shepard have been through 80-odd hours together and I'm going to see it through no matter what, although I doubt that ME3 in any case will be as amazing an improvement over ME2 as ME2 was over ME1.

As far as the hate (and rabid support) goes, it's not surprising. Nothing makes us happier as people than finding others who agree with us (the stronger they agree with us the better), and then telling everyone who disagrees with us how stupid they are.

I already took the day off of work for Mass Effect 3, and while I may end up being thoroughly disappointed or finding my own personal Jesus, I don't expect anyone else to care, and I don't especially care whether they think I'm wrong! Enjoy what you enjoy, and hate what you hate.

 

[sifffffff]

I agree with you OP. I would never begrudge anybody their opinion. I just want their arguments to be less shit.

I like the LOTR argument people sometimes use to defend being a dick to first timers. If you use the same logic they're applying then ticket takers should have been asking to see the stub for the previous film before letting you buy the ticket for the next one.

Zeel summed it up ever so eloquently. "Didn't play ME1 - Fuck you!" (Could be applied to all PS3 players if you really wanted.)

but the "Biobots" are the ones with shit arguments....

 

[Fappy]

THE FUCKING GAME ISN'T EVEN FUCKING OUT YET YOU SILY FUCKS.

Quite.

It is absolutely absurd that we even NEED a thread like this for a game that isn't even out yet. Boggles the mind!

 

[Frostbite3789]

None of my problems with the ME franchise are listed there. So I'll continue to go on bitching that I have to either pay out the ass for a console I don't want (360) or a new PC just so I can play the first game in a continuing franchise that has been released on the PS3.

Would you watch Lord of the Rings trilogy without first watching fellowship? I think not. So give us the first game on the PS3 and I'll probably purchase the 2nd and 3rd games.

That's completely on Microsoft and not Bioware. So your bitching about Bioware is pretty unfounded.

Microsoft own the rights to ME1, not to mention Bioware went out of their way to create Genesis to help get PS3 owners acclimated to the story, and even make the bigger decisions. So, no you don't have to do any of the things you listed.

 

[Verzin]

No understanding can be reached. my opinion is the only opinion that can be correct. resistance is futile: you will be assimilated.

 

[Aircross]

My only beef with ME3 is EA forcing people to install their spyware disguised as a digital distribution service if they want to play ME3.

I wouldn't hesitate to get it if it was on Steam.