There is a reason the rapier was only used in street combat (I think it had limited use in battles but shutup I'm making a point.crimson5pheonix said:Well theoretically, it's a good combo. A rapier was designed to go between the plates of platemail armor and hit vital points, and it did that quite well. But it doesn't work if you're slow. And platemail is meant to keep you safe until you can bludgeon someone to death with your sword.
In another castle no doubt.Lalalarzi said:I'd be the princess you were all fighting for. Forward my people! Into glorious battle! I'll be waiting for you after.... with nachos
The flanged mace was actually quite a light weapon but because of the way it was made it could easily kill a man in field plate or leather or anything in between.J. Reed said:But... I'm a competent mace-wielder-man?crimson5pheonix said:And they're slower, a competent swordsman could counter quickly.YouCallMeNighthawk said:Aren't maces and warhammers generally heavier than a sword? so would use more energy to swing it about tiring the person out quicker?J. Reed said:Kite shield. Half-plate. Flanged mace.
No swords. The silly things require too much finesse, in my opinion, and would be useless against plate.
A mace (or warhammer), on the other hand, works just as well on hard targets as soft ones. The flanges bite into plate armor and keep it from deflecting away.
The mace is also a lower maintenance weapon, so wouldn't need to worry about its lethality diminishing.
I'll give it to you that the more skilled soldier will win, regardless of equipment, but what I was trying to say was the mace, in general, would be the more effective death-dealer, being that it's effective against everything.
It's also heavier, sure, but I figure if someone's been using it as their main weapon forever, they'd be used to it. And would have the physique to compensate.
If you even saw battle, using a halberd type pole-axe could help take care of those pesky knights. But being female in the real middle ages you would either be serving those soldiers that were living (not necessarily food), dying of any one or more diseases that existed at the time, or on fire as you were being burned at the stake.crimson5pheonix said:If we go by numbers, the spear was the most devastating weapon ever made ever. And I believe weapons have innate advantages over other weapons. A sword duelist is just too fast for a mace user. A mace user can stop an armored knight really well. An armored knight is effective against a spear man. Etc.J. Reed said:But... I'm a competent mace-wielder-man?crimson5pheonix said:And they're slower, a competent swordsman could counter quickly.YouCallMeNighthawk said:Aren't maces and warhammers generally heavier than a sword? so would use more energy to swing it about tiring the person out quicker?J. Reed said:Kite shield. Half-plate. Flanged mace.
No swords. The silly things require too much finesse, in my opinion, and would be useless against plate.
A mace (or warhammer), on the other hand, works just as well on hard targets as soft ones. The flanges bite into plate armor and keep it from deflecting away.
The mace is also a lower maintenance weapon, so wouldn't need to worry about its lethality diminishing.
I'll give it to you that the more skilled soldier will win, regardless of equipment, but what I was trying to say was the mace, in general, would be the more effective death-dealer.
It's also heavier, sure, but I figure if someone's been using it as their main weapon forever, they'd be used to it. And would have the physique to compensate.
Mongols are nomads,at least they were,and after a battle,soldiers looted cities,drinking heavily in the process.seydaman said:Assuming you're the average person this would be impossible, the stirrup had not been invented at the time of the Mongols so to stay on their horses they had to hold them with there legs All. The. Time.Exocet said:I would get on a horse,take a bow and ride with thousands of unstoppable,bloodthristy nomads.
You can't stop the Mongols,you just can't.I'm pretty much safe until it comes time to play a game of rugby on horses using a goat's head as a ball,in which case I'll display some fine "get knocked off a horse and faceplant into the ground" skills,and probably die trampled by angry,drunken men riding horses.
Edit: Also Mongols =/= Nomads
Edit2: Also The Mongols were a professional army, not angry,drunken men riding horses.
Except if you are fighting someone with rusty swords, the chances are they know just as much as the average Escapist user does about swordfighting. Nothing.Srdjan said:It was tough and messy and you would die in agony because of a single cut from enemy's rusted sword because there wasn't any antibiotics, or you would be stomped to death by your own troops in retriet.
props for the biting and yelling. Spoken like a true gaelic descendant. but no claymore??Cmwissy said:Gaelic descent here. I'd win by biting people and yelling loudly, and never losing my land [small]somehow[/small]
Weapon of choice would probably be dual daggers or a bow depending on if I feel more like a rogue or ranger.
This is very true. But if the formation breaks swords become useful again. getting past a long weapon isnt too hard if it isnt properly backed up. Formations could be broken by cavalry charges to the flank or simply shooting arrows into those tightly packed groups. hence the need for variety.Spitfire175 said:Medieval soldiers fought in formations, wielding big weapons that enabled effective formation movement and combat. Swords are out of the picture, enter spears and halberds and the likes.
Do you have idea when formation with halberds begin to use in medieval warfare, it was used later on and even then not with such efficency you speak off.Spitfire175 said:Except if you are fighting someone with rusty swords, the chances are they know just as much as the average Escapist user does about swordfighting. Nothing.Srdjan said:It was tough and messy and you would die in agony because of a single cut from enemy's rusted sword because there wasn't any antibiotics, or you would be stomped to death by your own troops in retriet.
I won't write it again, already did in a thread just like this, but let it be said, that all the hyper individualistic yadda yadda and not moving with the formations and wielding swords is just going to get you killed. Unless you are someone like Johannes Lichtenauer, Fiore dei Liberi, Hans Tallhoffer or Paulus Kai, which I really do doubt.
Medieval soldiers fought in formations, wielding big weapons that enabled effective formation movement and combat. Swords are out of the picture, enter spears and halberds and the likes.