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Amnestic

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NeutralDrow said:
...and this needed to be resurrected why?

You could have just given that 5000 gp worth of diamond dust to me.
You need a full diamond for Resurrection/Raise Dead spells generally, don't you?
 

Jark212

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These movies are a scourge on the movie industry, There writers should be sent to a desert island and left there for all time...
 

Flishiz

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I saw about 15 minutes of it on tv, and it was kind of funny in a few parts, but generally idiotic.
 

Vrex360

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I didn't even bother with it, honestly to this day knowing that that movie exists is what keeps me up at night trembling with fear.
 

Griphphin

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I've seen it at a friend's house (he's really into that kind of stuff), but I never really liked it. It just makes me want to see one of the Naked Gun movies again, they did this kind of thing much better in my opinion.
 

NeutralDrow

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Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
...and this needed to be resurrected why?

You could have just given that 5000 gp worth of diamond dust to me.
You need a full diamond for Resurrection/Raise Dead spells generally, don't you?
Hmm...on fact-check, apparently you just need "diamonds" roughly equaling that worth (I remember diamond dust from somewhere, but I can't quite remember where). And that's just for <url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/raiseDead.htm>Raise Dead; the others all require holy water as well.

Unless you do Reincarnate, but I'm not sure I'm willing to take the metaphor that far.
 

Amnestic

High Priest of Haruhi
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NeutralDrow said:
Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
...and this needed to be resurrected why?

You could have just given that 5000 gp worth of diamond dust to me.
You need a full diamond for Resurrection/Raise Dead spells generally, don't you?
Hmm...on fact-check, apparently you just need "diamonds" roughly equaling that worth (I remember diamond dust from somewhere, but I can't quite remember where). And that's just for <url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/raiseDead.htm>Raise Dead; the others all require holy water as well.

Unless you do Reincarnate, but I'm not sure I'm willing to take the metaphor that far.
I suppose - logically - that Diamond Dust would operate the same as full Diamonds since they're identical material, just one is rather more powdered than the other. I wonder if 5000gp of Diamond Dust is heavier than 5000gp of Diamonds?
 

NeutralDrow

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Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
...and this needed to be resurrected why?

You could have just given that 5000 gp worth of diamond dust to me.
You need a full diamond for Resurrection/Raise Dead spells generally, don't you?
Hmm...on fact-check, apparently you just need "diamonds" roughly equaling that worth (I remember diamond dust from somewhere, but I can't quite remember where). And that's just for <url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/raiseDead.htm>Raise Dead; the others all require holy water as well.

Unless you do Reincarnate, but I'm not sure I'm willing to take the metaphor that far.
I suppose - logically - that Diamond Dust would operate the same as full Diamonds since they're identical material, just one is rather more powdered than the other. I wonder if 5000gp of Diamond Dust is heavier than 5000gp of Diamonds?
I guess it depends on the economic conditions of where you try to use it. Gold is relatively stable in worth for its weight, but people usually want their diamonds in pretty format, so you could say that a greater amount of dust is required than actual gems. It's probably much less bulky, though.

...come to think of it, wouldn't that mean it's easier to resurrect people in cities with high inflation rates?
 

jonnosferatu

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Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
...and this needed to be resurrected why?

You could have just given that 5000 gp worth of diamond dust to me.
You need a full diamond for Resurrection/Raise Dead spells generally, don't you?
Hmm...on fact-check, apparently you just need "diamonds" roughly equaling that worth (I remember diamond dust from somewhere, but I can't quite remember where). And that's just for <url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/raiseDead.htm>Raise Dead; the others all require holy water as well.

Unless you do Reincarnate, but I'm not sure I'm willing to take the metaphor that far.
I suppose - logically - that Diamond Dust would operate the same as full Diamonds since they're identical material, just one is rather more powdered than the other. I wonder if 5000gp of Diamond Dust is heavier than 5000gp of Diamonds?
Probably. It's very hard to tell the quality of diamond dust, so any jeweler would probably value it using the weight for the lowest-quality diamonds.

I work with a mythos in which gems have considerable (inducible) magical properties even when ground up, though, so any players in my games would have an easy time determining the value. Higher-quality diamond matrix = bigger bang when you use a pinch of it as a bonus component for fireball.
 

jonnosferatu

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NeutralDrow said:
Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
...and this needed to be resurrected why?

You could have just given that 5000 gp worth of diamond dust to me.
You need a full diamond for Resurrection/Raise Dead spells generally, don't you?
Hmm...on fact-check, apparently you just need "diamonds" roughly equaling that worth (I remember diamond dust from somewhere, but I can't quite remember where). And that's just for <url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/raiseDead.htm>Raise Dead; the others all require holy water as well.

Unless you do Reincarnate, but I'm not sure I'm willing to take the metaphor that far.
I suppose - logically - that Diamond Dust would operate the same as full Diamonds since they're identical material, just one is rather more powdered than the other. I wonder if 5000gp of Diamond Dust is heavier than 5000gp of Diamonds?
I guess it depends on the economic conditions of where you try to use it. Gold is relatively stable in worth for its weight, but people usually want their diamonds in pretty format, so you could say that a greater amount of dust is required than actual gems. It's probably much less bulky, though.

...come to think of it, wouldn't that mean it's easier to resurrect people in cities with high inflation rates?
D&D features a cosmic intelligence that has assigned permanent value to every object in the universe.
 

Amnestic

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jonnosferatu said:
NeutralDrow said:
Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
Amnestic said:
NeutralDrow said:
...and this needed to be resurrected why?

You could have just given that 5000 gp worth of diamond dust to me.
You need a full diamond for Resurrection/Raise Dead spells generally, don't you?
Hmm...on fact-check, apparently you just need "diamonds" roughly equaling that worth (I remember diamond dust from somewhere, but I can't quite remember where). And that's just for <url=http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/raiseDead.htm>Raise Dead; the others all require holy water as well.

Unless you do Reincarnate, but I'm not sure I'm willing to take the metaphor that far.
I suppose - logically - that Diamond Dust would operate the same as full Diamonds since they're identical material, just one is rather more powdered than the other. I wonder if 5000gp of Diamond Dust is heavier than 5000gp of Diamonds?
I guess it depends on the economic conditions of where you try to use it. Gold is relatively stable in worth for its weight, but people usually want their diamonds in pretty format, so you could say that a greater amount of dust is required than actual gems. It's probably much less bulky, though.

...come to think of it, wouldn't that mean it's easier to resurrect people in cities with high inflation rates?
D&D features a cosmic intelligence that has assigned permanent value to every object in the universe.
Couldn't a high Appraise and Bluff skill allow you to somewhat circumvent those permanent values though?
 

Sewer Rat

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Nope, I just watched it on HBO, I think if I did actually pay to see that movie, I would have to jump off of a building in shame.
 

Srkkl

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It was on HBO once, I turned it off after that crappy baby joke at the beginning, I think I did myself a favor.
 

Reep

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Weird, my parents loved this movie, they asked me to watch it and i couldn't have run quicker to my room.
 

Caligulove

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I once was at a friends house and her family was watching it.... not laughing at all. I felt sorry for them
 

jonnosferatu

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Amnestic said:
Couldn't a high Appraise and Bluff skill allow you to somewhat circumvent those permanent values though?[/quote]

Only to another human. Magic is governed by the aforementioned intelligence, which sees right through your attempts to bluff, and Appraise is your ability to figure out what that intelligence says the item is worth.