Megaupload Judge Calls U.S. "The Enemy"

[MrTub]

Oh well whatever the outcome of this current case, the US has got an instant grounds for appeal. This guy shooting his mouth off in public about the US being the enemy is going to be a clear case of bias against one of the parties involved. The guy is an idiot, if he kept his mouth shut and merely thought it, there wouldn't be a thing the US could do.

Ha if that is enough for to appeal then the piratebay would have won their appeal as well
considering how much bias the prosecutors and judges had in that trial

some examples of bias
"In mid 2008 after the indictment had been served, it was discovered that the main police investigator in the preliminary investigation had started working for one of the plaintiffs, Warner Brothers, before the date of the indictment"

"Only days before the trial began, one of the three appointed lay judges was discovered to be a member of a composers' association that among others works on protecting copyright"

"In the aftermath of the trial, presiding judge Tomas Norström, the same judge that ordered the 2006 raid on The Pirate Bay's servers, came under scrutiny after allegations of bias. Sveriges Radio P3 News organized an investigation that found on April 23 that Norström had several engagements with organisations interested in intellectual property issues"

"Norström however also sits in the board of the Swedish Association for the Protection of Industrial Property,[96] which along with the SFU are the Swedish branches of International Association for the Protection of Industrial Property (AIPPI) and Association littéraire et artistique internationale (ALAI). AIPPI's website states that "the objective of AIPPI is to improve and promote the protection of intellectual property on both an international and national basis","

and there is much more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pirate_Bay_trial#Bias_allegations

Precisely when did the judge at a public meeting call the Pirate bay evil?

Of course he is biased! He is caring for the poeple of his country!
And i actually think it is good that he overdid it with his comment putting a clear exclamation mark on the facts of this case.

His job is not to care or express his political opinion but to make a fair an impartial judgement in the matter of law in the case in front of him. If he wants to care for the nation then step down from the bench and stand for election.

So judges working for spotify or are member of a group that promotes stricter IP laws is less bias then a judge calling the US a enemy (not evil)?

I would actually think its a better chance to get a non-bias answer from the person that thinks US is the enemy then the judges in piratebay case but that is just my opinion

 

[SageRuffin]

I'm a very patriotic man, but this case US IS the bad guy.

I hope Dotcom wins this.

Agreed on all accounts (with being a serviceman to boot). I think it's high time someone walked up to our government and kicked it in the shins with sharpened ice skates.

 

[RandV80]

I'm a very patriotic man, but this case US IS the bad guy.

I hope Dotcom wins this.

Honestly the good guy/bad guy thing tends to get overplayed in the US. My opinion/theory is that the US for the past 100+ years runs on a very simply concept: what's best for American business is best for the American people. This also extends to the international level, where US priority comes before fair dealing.

For example, the US is so gun-ho about international copyright/IP laws because they are the largest creators and of distributed media. Something like international trademarks on local food brands on the other hand, that protects products such as Kobe Beef or Champagne, American farmers can make money by stealing these name brands and applying it to their own products. Or the recent SOPA fiasco, consider how close the US congress came to possibly breaking the internet for the rest of the world in favour of US Business. Then recently the UN brings up the idea of starting their own internet tax, possibly in an attempt to take control over the internet, and all of a sudden to many of the same people who supported SOPA the integrity of the internet must be protected at all costs!

It's all just one big circle jerk really.

 

[major_chaos]

I'm a very patriotic man, but this case US IS the bad guy.

I hope Dotcom wins this.

My thoughts exactly. While there is allot of things about my country that I love, our bought and paid for government is most definitively not one of them.

 

[Tanis]

'THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM!'

Hahaha...nope.

They hate us because our government acts like jerks.

 

[Antari]

The lobbyists responsible for this will not stop because they have nearly limitless funds to work with. Until the ESA is viewed by the public as hostile and game publishers withdrawl support, this will just get worse and worse. The USA was just dumb enough to listen to the ESA.

 

[AngryMongoose]

So... Sudden Heart Attack, Fell Naked out of a Helicopter, or Shock Suicide? (Via self-inflicted throat slice coupled with bruises all down the arms and neck, while hands were duck taped)

 

[5mj7R7yf4Dwr3gdZyyu9PeGNwYjlNrjzuh3iTXQG]

Yeah, it really sucks that it's our[footnote]As an American speaking on behalf of other Americans...[/footnote] Department of Justice and our Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency that really screwed the pooch on this one. For one thing this is a demonstrative example of how our law enforcement and justice departments are really agencies of big business (in this case legacy content providers) and not (as we've been taught and promised) agencies of the people, so yeah, when our gummint is a finger-puppet for big lobbies, they are the tyrants, and they are the enemy.

I'm frightened also that either they're too ignorant to be aware what of what they did,[footnote]That is to say the consequences of busting Kim Dotcom like a terrorist (complete with swat-guys-through-the-windows) and then to refuse to respect the rights of the servers used by Megaupload (20th-of-July Staffenburg coup [http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57414104-93/u.s-says-megauploads-hosting-service-is-no-innocent-bystander/] took control of Nazi forces to overthrow Hitler's regime, and it's not like ICE's papers were exactly in order. The charges against Megaupload remain really vague, such as conspiracy and racketeering, so even if Dotcom was brought to a legitimate court, they'd have quite the chore getting any of it to stick. On the other hand, Mega's downtime might be enough to kill it permanently.[/footnote]

So, I'd like to say I'm sorry on behalf of the United States, but the bigger picture is: we now owe you guys reparations.

238U

 

[xPixelatedx]

The whole region thing in movies and games is something that should go extinct. At this point there is no real reason for it aside from how uppity our species is. Don't like your movie being shown in Country A while it's showing in Country B? Why in the world should that even be a problem if they are still buying it!? God, there is just no pleasing some people. It's not enough that people buy their things legit, they have to do it in weird and specific ways to make the creators happy. Oh yeah, that won't help turn people to piracy at all!

 

[Your Fearless Captain]

+1000 to New Zealand.

Edit: This whole DoJ busting Dotcom is insane and way out of line. I think that there needs to be a round of firings.

 

[Talvrae]

The inited state the ennemies? Exagerating a bit much maybe?Not taking side here but... well it seem pushing it a bit

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Oi, Andy, you should probably link to the article on the judge stepping down from the case [http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10820496].

 

[theultimateend]

Psht! If we can't have region free DVD players due to our government being controlled by corperation-fueled lobbyists no one can!

That's the actual policy in the US.

That whole "Race to the Bottom" thing that politicians have convinced Americans to do.

"Teachers are making HOW MUCH MONEY?! I'm not making that much! CUT THEIR SALARIES!"

...wut? Why not demand your job pay you a good wage and treat you like a human?

"MADNESS! CUT IT! WE NEED MORE MONEY FOR BOMBS!"

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Seriously though, would one of you foreign countries PLEASE stand-up to our government? I assure those of us with working brains view it with just as much contempt as you do.

Everyone kind of owes you a lot, England does at least, so it's really rude to say no to you guys sometimes. It'd be like if you bailed us out with a lot of money for years and allowed us to have the NHS and then a few years later we spat in your face. No wait, that's exactly what it would be. As much as I like the idea, it's going to be a while before we get to that point.

OT: Awesome, I love it when America's unreasonable laws are jumped on. You guys really like your IP and copyright laws.

 

[Baron_BJ]

Let's see what the people of the world think of this matter:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_Perceptions_Index

Number 1 least corrupt country in the world going by the global opinion: New Zealand
Number 24 (With many involved in the Index expecting it to plummet): United States

 

[greenice]

Breaking News: US declares MegaUpload a terrorist organization, decides to invade New Zealand, brings democracy with it.
But seriously the US should try and stop pushing people around, if nothing else they're really getting a bad rep.

 

[srm79]

According to the BBC, he's quit...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18882756

 

[cynicalsaint1]

OT: Awesome, I love it when America's unreasonable laws are jumped on. You guys really like your IP and copyright laws.

See that's where you're mistaken - I have yet to meet a single person here who thinks our IP laws are anything but utter BS. The problem is our government tends to listen to organizations like the MPAA and such who can afford to spend fucktons on lobbyists to support their interests.

I honestly wonder what would have happened with the whole SOPA thing if it wasn't stepping on the toes of giants like Google who could actually afford to do something about it and get the word out. I really do.