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What it's like is awesome. By far my favorite metal release of the year.Rusty Bucket said:
Glad to hear you guys mention Meshuggah. They're one of my faves. Nowadays I find a lot of metal to be too stylistically inbred to hold my attention but those guys never fail to entertain me.
I loves me some Metal.
So far this year has been so so for Metal, in my opinion.
Really looking forward to Pain of Salvation's DVD as well as Wintersun's new album, Time. Which is starting to become the Duke Nukem Forever of Metal.
Besides that, while I enjoyed the second disc of Six Degrees, I feel they've not had a good release since Metropolis 2.
They still write good music, it's just rather.... soulless. Again, in my opinion. It seems intricate for intricacies sake. The music is fun, not bad Prog at all, it's just rather silly.
So far this year has been so so for Metal, in my opinion.
Really looking forward to Pain of Salvation's DVD as well as Wintersun's new album, Time. Which is starting to become the Duke Nukem Forever of Metal.
Overrated band imo. Petrucci is a great guitarist, Rudess is a modern day Keith Emerson, Portnoy and Myung are also very talented. But LaBrie is garbage, sorry, I've seen them live a couple times, and Chaos In Motion strengthens my point. He WAS great, back in his day/before he blew out his voice due to food poisoning. However, just because he got back on the horse, doesn't mean I'm going to ignore the obvious damage he has suffered.Rusty Bucket said:
Besides that, while I enjoyed the second disc of Six Degrees, I feel they've not had a good release since Metropolis 2.
They still write good music, it's just rather.... soulless. Again, in my opinion. It seems intricate for intricacies sake. The music is fun, not bad Prog at all, it's just rather silly.
honestly I saw Dream theater live was not all that impressed I mean yes they are talented but the music just did nothing to really grab me
Look up the song "As I Am" on youtube...i think it might be more up your alley.TheNecroswanson said:
They became heavier with age
Out of curiousity, what song did you look up?
You probably heard Forsaken or some crap, here's something a bit more Metal. EDIT; ahahah, I was right.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kONQ8cp3Tlc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGSvbpB9Kg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-w3A1KOPZc
They're Prog, so of course their music will incorporate time changes that go from heavy to soft.
I feel I need to defend them a bit because way back when, they were the greatest Progressive Metal band, they released some great records.
The drivel they're releasing now is a sad shell of what they were.
Edit 2; who recommends As I Am? Wow, DT trying to sound like Metallica, ignoring their own identity, and that's also when LaBrie began sounding Looney Tunes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kONQ8cp3Tlc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDGSvbpB9Kg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-w3A1KOPZc
They're Prog, so of course their music will incorporate time changes that go from heavy to soft.
I feel I need to defend them a bit because way back when, they were the greatest Progressive Metal band, they released some great records.
The drivel they're releasing now is a sad shell of what they were.
Edit 2; who recommends As I Am? Wow, DT trying to sound like Metallica, ignoring their own identity, and that's also when LaBrie began sounding Looney Tunes.
Haha...i really enjoyed Systematic Chaos...In the presence of Enemies was awesomeJBarracudaL said:
At what point do you think they started going downhill?
Like I said before, Metropolis 2 is the last album by them I consider good although I did like the second half of Six Degrees.
That overly forced Methul sound which started in The Glass Prison and HAS NOT FUCKING STOPPED SINCE is what killed my love of the band
They had substance, but got together one day, presumably after taking near lethal quantities of crack and decided "Hey! We're juggernauts of Prog Metal, we've established a very unique style, we have no duplicate... let's abandon that and try to imitate other groups not as good as us!"
I just don't get the direction they took at Train of Thought. (Though, Stream of Consciousness and the song Octavarium are very good and true to their old identity, imo)
I found Systematic Chaos to be "fun" and nothing more.
Clearly, it's music that requires immense talent to play, but you have to go pretty far out of your way to turn such talent into such passionless copy pasta.
That overly forced Methul sound which started in The Glass Prison and HAS NOT FUCKING STOPPED SINCE is what killed my love of the band
They had substance, but got together one day, presumably after taking near lethal quantities of crack and decided "Hey! We're juggernauts of Prog Metal, we've established a very unique style, we have no duplicate... let's abandon that and try to imitate other groups not as good as us!"
I just don't get the direction they took at Train of Thought. (Though, Stream of Consciousness and the song Octavarium are very good and true to their old identity, imo)
I found Systematic Chaos to be "fun" and nothing more.
Clearly, it's music that requires immense talent to play, but you have to go pretty far out of your way to turn such talent into such passionless copy pasta.
I've yet to properly listen to the new SS album because Pitch Black Progress is one of those albums I've listened to non stop, so I kind of OD'd on that one album.Rusty Bucket said:
Obzen is fantastic, a real return to form (ie: Destroy Erase Improve era).
I guess it's a case of each to his own. I hear a fair few fans feel the same way you do about the difference in sound. Their earlier stuff was certainly unique, but i tend to think that "Falling into Infinity" was their weakest album (with LaBrie).JBarracudaL said:
Certainly to each their own, afterall, matters of musical quality are all just opinion.KyleTheAngry said:
Falling Into Infinity was rather lousy, though I still prefer it over the subsequent releases post Six Degrees.
Falling Into Infinity had some magic on it, Lines In The Sand is easily one of my favorite Dream Theater songs.
I tried reading in on this and was met with a ton of people talking about metalcore (which isn't metal), nu-metal (which also isn't metal), and bands I personally can't stand.
Now I will explain how they aren't metal: metalcore is just punk sped up with distorted guitars added. (Yes I understand some 'metalcore' doesn't fit that definition but pretty much 99% of it does, and yes I'm biased so that 99% might be wrong.) Nu-metal doesn't really play the same as metal. Its riffing is different entirely, it uses pretty much everything as a rhythm instrument, it's practically rap with electric guitars. It's all tripe marketed to younger kids whining about *feeeeelings* instead of doing something interesting, which makes me think of grunge before metal. I've heard people characterize it as having a base of hard rock and then fusing other stuff into it, but I don't have a wide musical palate so I couldn't say there.
Try giving this a read; http://metal-archives.com/ . Encyclopedia Metallum is a pretty good place to go for metal. I've found a number of interesting bands no one's ever heard of before thanks to it (off the top of my head, Kalijuge).
Kudos to the guy on the front page who namedropped The Absence.
Now, personal taste time! Doom is good, but I tend to prefer genre-bending doom that's mixed up with melodeath. Funeral doom is listenable but I generally save it for things like "I'm trying to sleep." Thrash is good but I don't like a lot of it for seemingly random reasons. Melodeath is great but I don't listen to much straight death (generally find it boring and when they go all gore-styled it's just ridiculous and childish). Tech death I find somewhat hard to listen to but when the mood strikes me, it's amazing. Prog is ok but I can't STAND Dream Theater and that's all any one seems to talk about when 'prog metal' is in question. Black I don't much like the sound of but I've heard a little done well.
Now I will explain how they aren't metal: metalcore is just punk sped up with distorted guitars added. (Yes I understand some 'metalcore' doesn't fit that definition but pretty much 99% of it does, and yes I'm biased so that 99% might be wrong.) Nu-metal doesn't really play the same as metal. Its riffing is different entirely, it uses pretty much everything as a rhythm instrument, it's practically rap with electric guitars. It's all tripe marketed to younger kids whining about *feeeeelings* instead of doing something interesting, which makes me think of grunge before metal. I've heard people characterize it as having a base of hard rock and then fusing other stuff into it, but I don't have a wide musical palate so I couldn't say there.
Try giving this a read; http://metal-archives.com/ . Encyclopedia Metallum is a pretty good place to go for metal. I've found a number of interesting bands no one's ever heard of before thanks to it (off the top of my head, Kalijuge).
Kudos to the guy on the front page who namedropped The Absence.
Now, personal taste time! Doom is good, but I tend to prefer genre-bending doom that's mixed up with melodeath. Funeral doom is listenable but I generally save it for things like "I'm trying to sleep." Thrash is good but I don't like a lot of it for seemingly random reasons. Melodeath is great but I don't listen to much straight death (generally find it boring and when they go all gore-styled it's just ridiculous and childish). Tech death I find somewhat hard to listen to but when the mood strikes me, it's amazing. Prog is ok but I can't STAND Dream Theater and that's all any one seems to talk about when 'prog metal' is in question. Black I don't much like the sound of but I've heard a little done well.
Something fast (Metallica, Slayer), something powerful (Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath) and something EPIC(Dio, Manowar).
Note: these are examples.
Note: these are examples.
Could all those Metal elitists w@anking on about what is and isn't metal just STFU!
It's as bad as fanboys moaning about a console.
Metal is what metal does!
Korn and Maiden both get the juices going so who cares?
We supposed to start threads for every iterarion of every kind of metal to keep the snobs happy?
It's as bad as fanboys moaning about a console.
Metal is what metal does!
Korn and Maiden both get the juices going so who cares?
We supposed to start threads for every iterarion of every kind of metal to keep the snobs happy?
