Nope. I know they rewrote it, but I don't have it yet. Virus is my favorite anywayLukeydoodly said:Yeah I quite like Hypocrisy too. Do you have the newer version of the Catch 22 album? Its a lot better. Apparently fans did not like the new direction they took, so the rewrote the entire album haha.
Warpath rocks!Dechef said:Nope. I know they rewrote it, but I don't have it yet. Virus is my favorite anywayLukeydoodly said:Yeah I quite like Hypocrisy too. Do you have the newer version of the Catch 22 album? Its a lot better. Apparently fans did not like the new direction they took, so the rewrote the entire album haha.![]()
Especially Let the knife do the talking. First song I heard of 'em, became addicted right away!Lukeydoodly said:Warpath rocks!Dechef said:Nope. I know they rewrote it, but I don't have it yet. Virus is my favorite anywayLukeydoodly said:Yeah I quite like Hypocrisy too. Do you have the newer version of the Catch 22 album? Its a lot better. Apparently fans did not like the new direction they took, so the rewrote the entire album haha.![]()
Sad as in emotional sad or despairing sad?searanox said:A lot of the bands and discussion in this thread make me very sad.
Sad as in my heart is a forest of hatred and sorrow.Rusty Bucket said:Sad as in emotional sad or despairing sad?searanox said:A lot of the bands and discussion in this thread make me very sad.
Hahahaha. I'm experiencing simialr issues. I've already had to tell people off for dicussing Korn. That was just too far.searanox said:Sad as in my heart is a forest of hatred and sorrow.Rusty Bucket said:Sad as in emotional sad or despairing sad?searanox said:A lot of the bands and discussion in this thread make me very sad.
I dunno... too much melodeath, deathcore, crappy hard rock, classic rock, grindcore, lame-ass flower metal... where the hell is the real stuff? We need black metal, we need proper death metal, folk metal, Viking metal, avant-garde metal. Get me Arcturus, Gorguts, Borknagar, Summoning, Thyrfing, 1349, Vintersorg, Celtic Frost, Slough Feg, Negură Bunget, Edge of Sanity, Primordial, Vader, SuidAkrA... good music, dammit.Rusty Bucket said:Hahahaha. I'm experiencing simialr issues. I've already had to tell people off for dicussing Korn. That was just too far.
Hang on, what's wrong with melodic death metal? Sure, it's a disturbingly saturated genre, but when done properly its stunning. The rest i agree with though. Actually, i've been looking to get into more black metal, any reccomendations?searanox said:I dunno... too much melodeath, deathcore, crappy hard rock, classic rock, grindcore, lame-ass flower metal... where the hell is the real stuff? We need black metal, we need proper death metal, folk metal, Viking metal, avant-garde metal. Get me Arcturus, Gorguts, Borknagar, Summoning, Thyrfing, 1349, Vintersorg, Celtic Frost, Slough Feg, Negură Bunget, Edge of Sanity, Primordial, Vader, SuidAkrA... good music, dammit.Rusty Bucket said:Hahahaha. I'm experiencing simialr issues. I've already had to tell people off for dicussing Korn. That was just too far.
Early Satyricon, Emperor, Burzum, 1349, Gorgoroth, Abyssos, Leviathan, Xasthur, early Enslaved, early Ulver, early Borknagar, earlier Darkthrone, Negură Bunget (progressive black/folk), Taake, Summoning (melodic post-black), Immortal, pre-reuinion Dissection, later Absu (black/thrash metal), Kampfar, Agalloch (atmospheric post-black folk/"dark" metal), Anaal Nathrakh (grindcore/black metal), Aura Noir (old-school Venom- and Bathory-inspired black/thrash metal).Rusty Bucket said:Actually, i've been looking to get into more black metal, any reccomendations?
That's the main problem with the genre, newer bands generally just copy the original three. I still love Dark Tranquillity though. There are some newer bands that play Gothenburg style stuff, but play it so damn well that it doesn't matter that they're not doing anything new. The Absence, for example.searanox said:Nothing that wrong with melodeath in theory, but if I see more Dark Tranquillity/In Flames/Soilwork/Arch Enemy Gothenburg crap I'm going to shoot myself. A few of the bands I mentioned above, like Edge of Sanity and SuidAkrA, are mostly melodic death metal.Rusty Bucket said:Actually, i've been looking to get into more black metal, any reccomendations?
The Absence is not really Gothenburg, from what I have heard, but they are not bad either.Rusty Bucket said:That's the main problem with the genre, newer bands generally just copy the original three. I still love Dark Tranquillity though. There are some newer bands that play Gothenburg style stuff, but play it so damn well that it doesn't matter that they're not doing anything new. The Absence, for example.
That's a very good description of it actually, i hadn't thought of it quite like that. I do like Arsis, wasn't too impressed with their last couple of releases though, they seemed to lose something. Had a listen to SuidAkrA as well, not quite up my street, but it might grow on me. When melodeath is done right, or at least has a slightly different spin on it, i think it's a brilliant genre of music. Plus, it's a good way to start to get into lots of different styles of metal.searanox said:The Absence is not really Gothenburg, from what I have heard, but they are not bad either.Rusty Bucket said:That's the main problem with the genre, newer bands generally just copy the original three. I still love Dark Tranquillity though. There are some newer bands that play Gothenburg style stuff, but play it so damn well that it doesn't matter that they're not doing anything new. The Absence, for example.
The problem with melodeath, not just Gothenburg, is that it's a genre that is cookie-cutter almost by definition; everything had already been more or less done by the time Carcass released Heartwork in 1993 and In Flames came out with Lunar Strain in 1994. Later albums by other bands just built upon that same framework. It's also worth pointing out that's ridiculously easy to write melodeath songs; experimentation usually puts you outside of the melodeath genre, as well. It's the same issue a lot of people have with black metal, actually. Aside from things like differing production values, all the riffs, melodies and vocal styles have already been done. There is definitely something to be said for being good at it, of course, but real innovation is even more rare than normal, which is why I think bands like SuidAkrA, Edge of Sanity, Arsis, Demigod, etc. stand out.
I'm with you all the way with the crappy prog-metal and deathcore, but whats wrong with grindcore?searanox said:I dunno... too much melodeath, deathcore, crappy hard rock, classic rock, grindcore, lame-ass flower metal...Rusty Bucket said:Hahahaha. I'm experiencing simialr issues. I've already had to tell people off for dicussing Korn. That was just too far.
It's not metal, and frankly I think most of it sucks.Fatalis67 said:I'm with you all the way with the crappy prog-metal and deathcore, but whats wrong with grindcore?
That is true, but goregrind bands like Exhumed and Carcass are good.searanox said:It's not metal, and frankly I think most of it sucks.Fatalis67 said:I'm with you all the way with the crappy prog-metal and deathcore, but whats wrong with grindcore?