Adam Jensen said:
Seriously? How could people not have predicted that GZ would end up being a pre-order bonus? Come on! I guess this is the reason gamers fall for stupid shit all the time. They don't think.
Saltyk said:
I knew they would do that. It's one reason I never bought Ground Zeroes. However, I got it free from PSN, so now I don't even need this.
On the other hand, I haven't even preordered Phantom Pain. Konami has been so scummy and horrible that I can't really bring myself to support them at this point. With how they are apparently treating their employees. With how they are treating their IPs. With all the baffling decisions they seem to be making. I just don't know that I can buy a Konami game right now.
Which sucks as I love Metal Gear Solid. And I consider Kojima one of the few rock stars of the gaming industry. So the fact that Konami's actions have killed my excitement for the game to this extent is bad.
Fuck Konami!
Again with not thinking. Do you know what's gonna happen if you don't buy MGS V? You won't be able to play it (unless you resort to the other method). That's it. It's literally the full extent of the consequences. It won't change Konami. It won't bring Kojima back. It won't change a god damn thing in the universe. It will simply save you $60 that you're probably going to spend on another game. Maybe you'll enjoy it more than MGS though. I don't know. But you're making this decision just so you can have a false sense of moral superiority for a while. To convince yourself that you're a good person. Never mind the fact that at least one of the items in your possessions was probably made by a child in terrible working conditions in a country where they can't even fight for their rights, unlike Japan. Or maybe by someone who's killed himself or herself since. Nevermind the fact that the entire western civilization was built and is being sustained largely on blood and sweat of cheap labour overseas. But that's out of sight and out of mind. And every time you use a vehicle that uses gasoline you're supporting the shittiest people on the planet responsible for countless deaths. But hey, that's out of your control, right?
You don't need to concern yourself with all that. It's too much to wrap your head around. Who cares how the real world works? Just keep thinking that you're this amazing moral person making a morally right decision by refusing to buy a video game. Jesus fuckin' Christ.
Wow. Jensen, I often agree with you in your posts. But, you're seriously making a bunch of assumptions. And you know what they say about that...
I never said I thought me not buying the game would hurt Konami. I know it won't. Unless plenty of other people feel the same way, they won't even notice or care. But who knows? Maybe others agree with me?
But here's the rub. If I really wanted to buy the game, I would. In fact, I will buy the game regardless of Konami's actions if I want to buy it. I may even buy it used if I'm so insistent that Konami not get any money from me. No, my biggest problem is that with all the negative things I have heard about Konami, it has hurt my desire to purchase a Konami game at all. I'm not trying to fix Konami. I'm not trying to save Kojima (he's probably better off now, anyway). No, I just don't desire to buy any game made by this publisher. That's it.
Honestly, it's more like how I don't drink Coke because I don't like the taste. My opinion of the company has been hurt too much and that has tainted my view of their product. I'm not even excited for one of the biggest games of the year. A game I was looking forward to a few months ago, I could take or leave. Even if I purchased it (or got it as a gift) I still may not feel like playing it due to lack of enthusiasm. That's how poorly I view the company.
On top of that, Ground Zeroes left a bad taste in my mouth. I got it free and was pissed how short it actually was. If I had actually paid for it, I would have been livid. You can literally complete the game easily in 20 minutes or play around and finish it in an hour. I'm literally waiting for the Metal Gear pachinko machine. Think they'll name it slotvengeance?
And frankly, you're trying to portray me as some idiot kid, but your post only makes you seem immature. Insults and degradation don't do you or your arguments any favors. But keep on being edgy and mature if you like.
Anyway, I'm gonna end this before I start playing Devil's Advocate.