So let me get this straight, he's apologizing for what, I think, many will agree is one of his good movies?
Michael Bay Apologizes For Armageddon
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Yeah, that's the one he should be apologising for.Andy Chalk said:
It was bad AND downright insulting.
Are we talking about lens flare, here? Because I know he's see that.Andy Chalk said:
Michael, you're a guilty pleasure of world cinema--the no-calorie popcorn that costs $8.00 a bag. Don't change a damned thing. I love to bash your horrid directing choices. And you love to roll around naked in your swimming pool of money paid for by millions of folks like me.
Well, to be fair the story in "Pain and Gain" is based more on the story of the crooks combined with some of the more objective coverage to create characterizations, than the "victim". A big part of the protests are from the victim claiming he was innocent, when that doesn't entirely seem to be the case.Ryan Hughes said:
The basic story is largely one of a group of criminals, preying on another criminal, to steal the money he himself stole. This is the avenue the movie takes, with the entire story being sort of "What if the guys in an "Ocean" movie were a bunch of not too bright weight lifters, who ultimatly fail", based on the RL testimony of weightlifters involved in a real incident.
The "Victim" seems to largely be complaining because the movie portrays him as being a scumbag himself, which from the limited stuff I've seen about it, is probably true, but was never proven.
In short, I don't think Michael Bay has much to apologize for given the premise. It won't be the first crime drama based on real life incidents that has gotten complaints by the real people who were involved. Whether the movie will be good on it's own merits or not remains to be seen, but honestly as I'm not a huge Bay fan, I doubt it.
That said, in his entire filmography, I think Armageddon is one of the movies he least needs to apologize for. It's not one of my favorite movies by any means, but it was more passable than a lot of other things he did.
Hey, I liked Armageddon.(Being serious) It has one of my favorite simple but comedic lines from an action/disaster movie:
"..components, American components, Russian components...ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!!!"
"..components, American components, Russian components...ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!!!"
Remember when The Escapist's articles were unbiased?... Me either.
I liked Armageddon. I was twelve at the time but I liked it.
Michael Bay's movies are glorified kids movies. You know what you're getting into when you agree to watch a movie called 'Transformers'. Who entered that cinema hoping for an emotional drama?
Michael Bay has nothing to be sorry for. His apology wasn't for the film, it was for the production of it. It didn't turn out exactly the way he'd hoped, but then if it had do you really think it would be all that much different.
Michael Bay fills a gab in the whole idea of cinema. He makes fun films. Don't like it, don't watch!
I liked Armageddon. I was twelve at the time but I liked it.
Michael Bay's movies are glorified kids movies. You know what you're getting into when you agree to watch a movie called 'Transformers'. Who entered that cinema hoping for an emotional drama?
Michael Bay has nothing to be sorry for. His apology wasn't for the film, it was for the production of it. It didn't turn out exactly the way he'd hoped, but then if it had do you really think it would be all that much different.
Michael Bay fills a gab in the whole idea of cinema. He makes fun films. Don't like it, don't watch!
Dammit, Mike! You're supposed to apologize for the movies everyone doesn't like!
Apologize for Pearl Harbor, jerk!
Yeah, I liked Armageddon. Hell, that's the only Bay movie I ever liked.
Apologize for Pearl Harbor, jerk!
Yeah, I liked Armageddon. Hell, that's the only Bay movie I ever liked.
I don't necessarily hate a dumb fun action movies, I enjoyed the Rock, but I think that has more to do with the cast and Don Simpson reigning in Bay. Given that, I've hated just about everything else I've seen from him. Armageddon, I was rooting for the asteroid, and the Transformers movies seem to have very little Transformers and a whole lot of Shia in some reject sitcom plot.
*facepalm*
Like pretty much everyone else here I LIKED Armageddon. It came out when people were nervous about the earth being hit by planet killing asteroids (Shoemaker-Levy 9, anyone?) and it totally kicked Deep Impact's ass.
*mutter-grumble-mutter*
Like pretty much everyone else here I LIKED Armageddon. It came out when people were nervous about the earth being hit by planet killing asteroids (Shoemaker-Levy 9, anyone?) and it totally kicked Deep Impact's ass.
*mutter-grumble-mutter*
To his credit, he sort of apologized for Transformer's 2.
He said something roughly to the effect of:
(Paraphrased) "Transformers 2 was bad because of the writer's strike. I didn't want to stop production during the strike though, as a lot of people's jobs were depending on it."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/mar/07/writers-strike-transformers-2-michael-bay
He said something roughly to the effect of:
(Paraphrased) "Transformers 2 was bad because of the writer's strike. I didn't want to stop production during the strike though, as a lot of people's jobs were depending on it."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2011/mar/07/writers-strike-transformers-2-michael-bay
Really, apologizing for his other good movie? Such a long list, with only two decent entries, and he picks one of those two to apologize for? What's next, a director's remake of The Rock?
Seriously (not that I wasn't serious before), his reasons were sound and the back act of Armaggedon was the weakest part of the movie. It's just that this is coming from Michael Bay. If it were Peter Jackson we would give them the benefit of the doubt. Or if it were a mid-level director we'd call them a whiner. But because it's Bay, we hate.
Seriously (not that I wasn't serious before), his reasons were sound and the back act of Armaggedon was the weakest part of the movie. It's just that this is coming from Michael Bay. If it were Peter Jackson we would give them the benefit of the doubt. Or if it were a mid-level director we'd call them a whiner. But because it's Bay, we hate.
like several others, i don't recall disliking this movie.
the rock was better sure but i didn't hate this the way, say >.> Transformers pisses me off
the rock was better sure but i didn't hate this the way, say >.> Transformers pisses me off
I actually liked Armageddon :/
Not that I like alot of what Bay (*Explosion!!*) does...but I defiantly think people overreact when it comes to his movies.
"Oh no, he ruined Transformers"
Oh no indeed! He ruined a concept that was only in existence to cynically sell you toys to begin with! How dare he!
Not that I like alot of what Bay (*Explosion!!*) does...but I defiantly think people overreact when it comes to his movies.
"Oh no, he ruined Transformers"
Oh no indeed! He ruined a concept that was only in existence to cynically sell you toys to begin with! How dare he!