Microsoft Bares Fangs to Block Apple Trademark

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Disaster Button said:
henritje said:
couldnt apple use a more original name like "iBuy" or "iStore"?
Don't they already use iStore in regards to the iTunes Store?

I've never heard "app" being used in regards to anything but Apple Applications, it seems anything but generic to me, so I don't think Microsoft should win this. Plus Apple owns my soul.
There have been Java apps for way before Apple made the App Store.
 

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stinkychops said:
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As far as I'm concerned, Microsoft would probably be better off coming up with a name better than 'App Store'. I mean how dull does that sound?
I think its a play on the Apple. App-le.

I might be giving them too much credit. However once people learn a name for something they don't use the best one. Mp3 players are Ipods. Soft drinks are coke. So forth.
App is a play on "application" apps are small applications, and app is a shortened word for application, like a SMALL version of the word application.

Yeah it's clever, but Apple didn't invent the term, so they don't own it.
 

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SaintWaldo said:
Tom Goldman said:
In a way, granting Apple a trademark for "App Store" seems like granting a butcher a trademark for "Meat Store."
Or granting the maker of but one of several windowed operating systems the trademark, "Windows"?

Alandoril said:
Microsoft are right in this instance. It would be absurd to let Apple trademark a generic term.
Squid94 said:
Agreeing with MS here, it's a fairly general term that should certainly stay that way.
Trogdor1138 said:
Agreed with Microsoft on this one, even as a Mac owner (that is thankfully unbiased).

It's too broad to really use properly for one company. That would be like Apple trying to ban anybody having photos of an Apple.
legendarytomuk said:
Yeah, with microsoft here, it's a generic term and should'nt be copyrighted.
How generic, broad or general is "Windows"?
That's different, Windows is a random name that doesn't describe the function of the product.

App-Store is as much a name as it is a description, it IS an application store, making it too general.

If Blu-Ray can't be trademarked, there is no way App-Store should be able to be trademarked.
 

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danpascooch said:
Disaster Button said:
henritje said:
couldnt apple use a more original name like "iBuy" or "iStore"?
Don't they already use iStore in regards to the iTunes Store?

I've never heard "app" being used in regards to anything but Apple Applications, it seems anything but generic to me, so I don't think Microsoft should win this. Plus Apple owns my soul.
There have been Java apps for way before Apple made the App Store.
I was just mentioning what I thought and knew. It still seems as though Apple might get the trademark as its become quite the popular usage in regards to iPhone Apps.
 

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Disaster Button said:
danpascooch said:
Disaster Button said:
henritje said:
couldnt apple use a more original name like "iBuy" or "iStore"?
Don't they already use iStore in regards to the iTunes Store?

I've never heard "app" being used in regards to anything but Apple Applications, it seems anything but generic to me, so I don't think Microsoft should win this. Plus Apple owns my soul.
There have been Java apps for way before Apple made the App Store.
I was just mentioning what I thought and knew. It still seems as though Apple might get the trademark as its become quite the popular usage in regards to iPhone Apps.
I'm not sure if they are going to get it or not, I'm just saying I personally don't think they should.

And it's more than understandable that you didn't know about Java apps, without a background in computer science, most people wouldn't.
 

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I hate Microsoft and Apple in almost equal measurements. But i agree with Microsoft here.
 

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A Pious Cultist said:
Nope. No one really used the term "app" with the exception of Java applets before Apple really. We normally just called it "software" and "programs". Let 'em have the term.
Speaking as a non Apple Anything owner, I've actually come to like the term "app" as a general term for a computer program. (And yes, it has been used before; that's where the term "killer app" comes from.) I'm kind of hoping it catches on that way.
 

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If this thing goes through, microsoft should call their version of the app store the iStore (or something similarly apple-ish, iApp, iBuy), just to **** apple over. Until they start patenting every word with the letter i in front of it, which is probably not beneath them in the same way the sky is not beneath the earth.
 

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Nope. No one really used the term "app" with the exception of Java applets before Apple really. We normally just called it "software" and "programs". Let 'em have the term.
I beg to differ. I remember getting mass mailed piracy distributions on america online in the early 90s. Apps and games, each attached to an email, and forwarded to everyone on the distribution list.

Apps as a general term for applications, dated to 1992.
 

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I hate the term "app"
I wish it would die a slow and painful death.

I wish they would come up with names for their services rather than "app store"
I wish I would stop making wishes that would never come true.
 

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psrdirector said:
Veloxe said:
Although I understand the ramifications for other companies but I do think apple should get the rights to "app store" since, for the most part, they are the reason it is now so common in the language.
being first isnt a legal standing
Sure it is. Do you think many of the people who own a trademark or copy right were the first to think of the idea? They were probably just the first to file, which in this case, Apple is attempting to do both.
 

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stinkychops said:
GiantRaven said:
As far as I'm concerned, Microsoft would probably be better off coming up with a name better than 'App Store'. I mean how dull does that sound?
I think its a play on the Apple. App-le.

I might be giving them too much credit. However once people learn a name for something they don't use the best one. Mp3 players are Ipods. Soft drinks are coke. So forth.
Also 'store' rhymes with 'core'! =O
 

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They only care because they're going to copy/rip-off Apple's app-store idea for their own smart-phone like everybody else.

That's MS for you, find something popular and then quickly make their own copy to try and cash in on the success of the original. (looking at YOU Bing!)
 

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AzrealMaximillion said:
MS may actually win this one. Letting Apple take "App Store" would let so many other businesses do stupid things.
Unfortunatly, stupidity is an unlimited natural ressource :/
 

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I'm going with Microsoft. The term seems too wide spread to be only used by Apple. They should just use something like the "istore" or something.
 

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GiantRaven said:
As far as I'm concerned, Microsoft would probably be better off coming up with a name better than 'App Store'. I mean how dull does that sound?
Exactly what I was thinking. Let apple have it and flex those creative muscles guys. C'mon I know you can do it (or at least hire someone who can).