Microsoft Drops Fees For Patching Xbox 360 Titles
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At the same time though, they are only doing this near the end of the generation when games made for 360 are winding down and less money can be made.thethird0611 said:
Also, I'm uncertain if this will carry over to the Indies on Xbone.
While I'll give you the DRM thing, MS still loaded a gun, pointed it at consumers and threatened to fire it.[footnote]Heavy Handed Analogy, I know[/footnote]
While they didn't fire, which is nice, the fact is that they were going to is a red flag and makes it a tad bit harder to trust anything that they do.
See, I can agree with you on both points, they are actual level headed criticisms, that's just unlike most MS criticisms on the Escapist. People on this site just get way to into group think and need to calm down and use some level headed thinking.Diablo1099 said:
But yeah, I'm hoping that it carries over to the X1, especially with Sony doing its best to court developers. The more platforms a small title can get onto, the bigger profits it can make.
Now your second point, I once again agree with you, and I am still currently watching Microsoft's actions, but there are people who are just saying "Oh, they are going to re-implement it a year in" with no evidence, just because they have this horrid bias and hate.
So yeah, I just get frustrated with a lot of what I read, just because people cant actually be non-bias and constantly get up into the trend of hating.
I Agree with you there, but this *IS* the Internet.thethird0611 said:
Might as well blame the sky for being blue
/jk
That Right there? That Bias, That Hate? That's the damage that Microsoft has done to its own Brand, just like EA during Sim City.
They've pissed off so many people that Sorry ain't cutting it.
You might get sick of it, but keep in mind that they, for the most part, brought it on themselves.
He, ze good ol Internet.Diablo1099 said:I Agree with you there, but this *IS* the Internet.thethird0611 said:
Might as well blame the sky for being blue
/jk
That Right there? That Bias, That Hate? That's the damage that Microsoft has done to its own Brand, just like EA during Sim City.
They've pissed off so many people that Sorry ain't cutting it.
You might get sick of it, but keep in mind that they, for the most part, brought it on themselves.
Now that is very true, but I think there is a difference between someone saying...
"Sorry Microsoft, your shot yourself in the foot on this one, your going to have to regain my trust"
Than someone saying...
"No one should buy an X1, it has NOTHING good, they are going to re implement the DRM, they are going to spy on your with the Kinect, the games suck, your a fanboy/dudebro if you buy one, and Microsoft will never ever make anything else good"
At least I see a difference. Meh.
...The hat simulator is a dangerous thing to dabble in. One moment, you're just happy to have a bowler hat on your scout. The next moment, you have a backpack worth $40,000 and you don't even know where the time went.Mumorpuger said:
There is a difference alright, but in the end it has the same effect and just shows that MS pissed off a LOT of people.thethird0611 said:
Some are just more level headed than others.
Sorry Microsoft, throwing people some old tablescraps will not be enough to once again earn you the goodwill lost over many years of being dicks.
Keep trying though. You might get there someday.
Keep trying though. You might get there someday.
Well this is very nice news. Maybe they want the 360 to be able to compete with the Ouya or something? Indie games for the most part don't need monster hardware to run anyway.
Maybe I'll keep an eye on XBLA for a while.
Maybe I'll keep an eye on XBLA for a while.
when a child runs up claiming to have a 'amazing surprise' which turns out to be a dog turd, most people will be a little wary of any other 'surprises' even when the child swears black and blue that it's different this time.thethird0611 said:
That said this is good news, but it still falls short with indies still requiring a publisher.
Well it looks like the arrogant Aristocrats of Microsoft finally got woken up out of their self love besotted stupidity long enough to realize that while those they lord over financially may be peasants in their eyes, those pitchforks and other farm implements the rabble are carrying look to be bloody sharp. Here's hoping Eddard Stark's head will have a bit of company soon.
josemlopes said:
MS press release " Well after 7 years of arse raping we have got bored of it and we have decided to stop , were not apologising or refunding the money , we just decided to stop , throw us a party and proclaim us company of the year pls!"
maybe they are learning about pr
I for one had no problem with the fee, it got developers to get it right the first time rather then selling a broken game and patching it later. As for indie titles not having the money to pay the fee, well the fee should scale on how successful the developer and the game are but they should not be given special treatment because they have less money, there is no excuse for shipping a broken game.
It is good news but please excuse me for not praising Microsoft because they decided to be less of dicks. Is that really what we as gamers have come too? We must praise a company for not enhancing our gaming experience but for retracting previous draconian policies?thethird0611 said:
Again, this is good news but its the type of news you don't praise, its the type you say "took fucking long enough".
SO no daily patches to fix the latest bugs thus maknig your experience better, only free patch after you already finished the game?Earnest Cavalli said:
no amount of testing can find everything. people find flaws in games 3 years after their release. i agree that the game shoudl work (no gmaebreaking bugs) and the less annoying bugs the better, but the complexity of agames nowadays mean 0 bugsi s pretty much impossible. all it does is make us not able to get them fixed.ecoho said:
however the trend nowadays is to fire your quality assurance department, call it "open beta" and let community bug-hunt for you. you dont have to pay them either and in some cases they even pay you for it.
This is great news! Maybe, just maybe, the games that I've had for years that are in dire need of patching (I'm looking at you, Brink), that the developers have long stopped supporting, and will not waste money on now that it's been so long since release and there is no fanbase to warrant the expense, will finally be patched.
Oh...wait...
Oh...wait...
Too late for Phil Fish, he single handedly insulted a Japanese Indy dev at some debate somewhere, then had the nerve at defying Nintendo and Cave Story, surprisingly had he released Fez on something other than Xbox Live, he wouldn't have to be waiting for the countdown before he could get his bucks somewhere else....had he not poked the hornets' nest.
It got grim to a point that some devs like Nicalis published Spelunky because they rather wanted to support Japanese devs rather than Fez. 0,0
Weird that he's all for Sony though, guess he either thinks Sony is American or they progressed far enough that even their appearance (games already did that) doesn't even have much Japanese in there.
It got grim to a point that some devs like Nicalis published Spelunky because they rather wanted to support Japanese devs rather than Fez. 0,0
Weird that he's all for Sony though, guess he either thinks Sony is American or they progressed far enough that even their appearance (games already did that) doesn't even have much Japanese in there.