Microsoft Drops Xbox One DRM Restrictions - UPDATED

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Baldr

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TiberiusEsuriens said:
Even if this is all true I'm a bit confused. The #1 purpose behind always-on is to allow for used-license trade ins to retailers.

If the cloud no longer knows my library is current a retailer can't trust selling the game, as either I could still have the license (effectly pirating the game) or the new buyer wouldn't be able to play (license already consumed).

To avoid that they'd have to remove game licenses, which would destroy the ability to have the Xbone Steam-Like Library, their primary reason for doing all this crap in the first place.
Go read the statement. You need the disc in the tray for the game to work, the authentication is going to be checked on the disc rather than online.
 

L34dP1LL

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they should have gone the extra mile and made it backwards compatible, because so far it only does what the PS4 does, and it's $100 extra bucks.
 

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I'm throughly surprised by the course change here and also very happy about it. I'm glad to see consumers muscle corporations around when they try to pull bullshit like this. Hopefully some day we can see the same thing happen to ohhh, say... Monsanto. AS for the XBone, if they keep on this course, I will seriously consider buying one, but only as a mid-late adopter after they've figured out exactly what they will and will not be doing.
 

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Well this certainly says alot about how console generations go.

Although i wish they would at least demote Don and company for being PR jerkasses through this whole fiasco.

I'll wait and see just how this all turns out when it launches. If people that bought the Xbone 180 get another reason to rage about this, then I will just sit and watch the "Show" that could happen if it does.

But one things for sure we're gonna have to burn this little adventure into everyone's mind to remember what could have happened during this ordeal. Like people have said before "It's too late, The damage is done".
 

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Soxafloppin said:
I'm a Sony/Nintendo fan through and through but this is great news.

A victory for the consumer!
Let's make it clear
The consumer won NOTHING here, or maybe it looks like it did, on the surface.

But Microsoft didn't listen to the consumer. It listened to it's sales chart. The ones that were indicating their consoles were being outsold almost 5 to 1 in their own country of prevalence.

If the odds weren't so contrasted, trust me, they would've done NOTHING even if we complained twice as much. If they were alone facing nintendo, they would've made the requirements even probably worse.

It's a good thing but for me, it's just mostly shows how slimy m$ is. How pathetic their attempts of saying "BUT CLOUD GAMING IS MANDATORY", how they were so arrogant about it, how it couldn't be changed.

And people will praise them for this too, holy shit
 

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Another thought: Don't the terms of service also say that all features etc are subject to change at any time for any reason anyway? There's nothing to stop Microsoft from re-implementing all of, if not even more, restrictive 'features' to the Xbox One. As others have said, they could very easily bring back these restrictions within the first year or two of the console releasing.
 

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My God, these guys are completely lost.
Sony's laughing their asses now, MS did all the PR work for them and now they're back where they started.
Half a year wasted for naught. That's the biggest disaster I've seen in my life.
 

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Busard said:
Soxafloppin said:
I'm a Sony/Nintendo fan through and through but this is great news.

A victory for the consumer!
Let's make it clear
The consumer won NOTHING here, or maybe it looks like it did, on the surface.

But Microsoft didn't listen to the consumer. It listened to it's sales chart. The ones that were indicating their consoles were being outsold almost 5 to 1 in their own country of prevalence.

If the odds weren't so contrasted, trust me, they would've done NOTHING even if we complained twice as much. If they were alone facing nintendo, they would've made the requirements even probably worse.

It's a good thing but for me, it's just mostly shows how slimy m$ is. How pathetic their attempts of saying "BUT CLOUD GAMING IS MANDATORY", how they were so arrogant about it, how it couldn't be changed.

And people will praise them for this too, holy shit
This. ALL of this. And I hate the fact that people will turn RIGHT around and call them "sensible" and that they "listened to the customer". Bullshit. They didn't listen to crap except their own wallets screaming.
 

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The Wii was labelled a joke for its name being affiliated with bodily fluid. The Xbox One will be labelled a joke not for its appearance, but for what it stands for in the gaming community.

Unlike Microsoft, I am standing by my decision to buy a PS4, simply because the policies were true and straight to the point. Microsoft is scrapping a lot of new features at the drop of a hat to get more money and take away competition, which is how the Game of XBOnes is played, I guess.
 

Quellist

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*Doffs hat to M$ for the first time ever*

Well bugger me, they really do listen eventually. I think i'll still go Ps4 first, unless Xbone gets some mad exclusives.

Ofc this forces Sonys hand a bit, because if M$ are serious then that statement about 3rd party publishers having the final word on DRM could put M$ ahead in that particular race
 

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This is fucking AMAZING news! Now that Micro$oft has ditched always online and used games restrictions, we won't be seeing them for a looooong while in fear of such a backlash the xBone created. I still think the xBone will fall to the PS4 initially due to the cheaper price, better initial PR and a non-mandatory PRISM Compliant Device kinect, but it's a chance at them making it up in the long run.

Also, I'm totally refering the xBone as the xBox 180 now.
 

Mumorpuger

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martyrdrebel27 said:
Mumorpuger said:
Maybe they should change the name to the Xbox One Eighty.
Thank you for at least getting the concept of what a 180 vs a 360 actually is. I remember towards the beginning of this generation, I kept seeing Sony fans saying things like "you know why its called a 360? Cause you see one and do a 360 and walk away." it made me wish I had a Facepunch key on my computer.
 

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Revolutionary said:
What's the bet they'll now kill the shared game library (The one good thing about the Xbone).
They said that in the release.

"These changes will impact some of the scenarios we previously announced for Xbox One. The sharing of games will work as it does today, you will simply share the disc. Downloaded titles cannot be shared or resold. "
 

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unstabLized said:
Busard said:
Soxafloppin said:
I'm a Sony/Nintendo fan through and through but this is great news.

A victory for the consumer!
Let's make it clear
The consumer won NOTHING here, or maybe it looks like it did, on the surface.

But Microsoft didn't listen to the consumer. It listened to it's sales chart. The ones that were indicating their consoles were being outsold almost 5 to 1 in their own country of prevalence.

If the odds weren't so contrasted, trust me, they would've done NOTHING even if we complained twice as much. If they were alone facing nintendo, they would've made the requirements even probably worse.

It's a good thing but for me, it's just mostly shows how slimy m$ is. How pathetic their attempts of saying "BUT CLOUD GAMING IS MANDATORY", how they were so arrogant about it, how it couldn't be changed.

And people will praise them for this too, holy shit
This. ALL of this. And I hate the fact that people will turn RIGHT around and call them "sensible" and that they "listened to the customer". Bullshit. They didn't listen to crap except their own wallets screaming.
True, true, but even if it was for their own wallets its still a good thing. Yeah, not for the reasons we want it to be but we DO still win, even if its a win that also help Microsoft. Don't forget, their sales figures were shit because WE didn't buy their sales pitch.
 

mxfox408

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Good ol fashioned capitalism, gotta love when they think they can be a dictator with thier systems and we tell them to fuck off you aint shit without us, they realize the truth then back off. Fuck em im still staying a PC gamer, ill let all the first Generation testers work out all the bugs before i buy a ps4