Microsoft "Unapologetic" For Sweeping Xbox Live Bans

[yourbeliefs]

Too bad we can't do a ban of complete assholes on Xbox Live, because then they'd probably have less members than the PSN..

 

[BenzSmoke]

At least they are being fair about this. You can get your account back if you need to.

 

[batuea]

It was a bit of a blitzkrieg, wasn't it?

It annoys me that people who just modded the console to play imports or back up games get their thing banned too though.

Honestly I never bought the whole 'back up my disc' thing. Anyone who has the technical know how or concern to mod a console can keep game discs safe. As for imports, that's a tough one but is there really that much on the import market that's worth it?

Technical know how/concern does not account for human error or grubby fingered family members =.=

yeah....its called disc replacement, that's why you keep all receipts, you mail your broken disc to them with the original packaging *IE the games box* and they will send you a new disc, you MIGHT have to pay shipping and handling but that should be no more then 4-6 bucks, and if you say that's "too much money" then maybe you should stop playing your games and get a job *for those "but I am under 15 I cant get a job there for the world should cater to me", mow yards, rake leaves, pass out flier's, hell, wash windows. And if you think your above manual labor, please remove your self from humanity, preferably with gasoline/petrol and matches. Plus companies never advertise disc replacement, you have to look for it *Google is your friend*. And on the import subject, I am not sure if you guys can read, but in the manual it said "don't be a douche and mod our hardware, or you will feel the odder busting power of the BANHAMMER", just because you buy the console does not mean you can violate the companies rules, seeing as how you agreed to it by buying the console. Plus people I don't know if this might work but try "flashing" your console, if you don't know what that means then you should not do it anyways.

 

[zidine100]

It was a bit of a blitzkrieg, wasn't it?

It annoys me that people who just modded the console to play imports or back up games get their thing banned too though.

Honestly I never bought the whole 'back up my disc' thing. Anyone who has the technical know how or concern to mod a console can keep game discs safe. As for imports, that's a tough one but is there really that much on the import market that's worth it?

Yes there is alot of reason to import, if you dont your more than likely to miss most of the entire libary of shmups on the 360. (im talking about the ones not on live, but on disks). And of course early releases in most countrys, if you know the launguage its freaking exelent.

but im not saying i dissagree with the banning, its there service after all, and most people who do import are to busy most of the time.

 

[squid5580]

It isn't like I don't sympathize with AU gamers. Or really see the need for this country gets the game release first. We do have to play by their rules though.

We do?

Well sure unless you don't like being able to use your console online. Cause and effect. Break the rules, get punished, sucks to be you. The last thing you should expect is anyone to sympathize with you.

 

[DigitalSushi]

This sounds strangely familiar, didn't Microsoft pull the same "mass ban" prior to Halo 3's release?.

 

[thebobmaster_v1legacy]

This sounds strangely familiar, didn't Microsoft pull the same "mass ban" prior to Halo 3's release?.

Wouldn't be surprised. Good strategy, after all. Run a check after the release of a hugely popular game.

 

[PieMaker]

"Unapologetic?" They should be, pirates don't really deserve to get away with it. Whenever someone pirates a really awesome game, I slap them and tell them to go buy it, the company who made the kick ass game deserves the money in return.

It's microsoft that is "unapologetic", not the pirates, who I could care less.

 

[Radelaide]

They have nothing to apologise for. People with modded consoles know that they're doing something against Xbox's Service agreement. That's why the Xbox doesn't come with that chip and why it's called 'modded'. Personally, I know a friend of mine had her Xbox banned from connecting to the net and she couldn't care less.

It's a small step forward from stopping console piracy... kinda.

 

[iFatCat]

lol they shouldn't be apologetic. I'm one of the people they've banned and i mean i was upset about it but I tried to look at the bright side, which is I needed a new xbox anyway lol. Now at least when i'm home with nothing to do i can play GTA 4's story line...yippie...

 

[Something Amyss]

Why would they be apologetic? They knew what they were doing. Sure they may have pissed off a few people that don't end up helping their attach rates anyway but they probably got a huge boost in hardware sales as a result of people's 360s breaking.

It's probably the best thing to happen to the 360's hardware sales since the rrod first hit.

I'm not saying they should be apologetic. I'm saying I'm not surprised they're not.

Wouldn't be surprised. Good strategy, after all. Run a check after the release of a hugely popular game.

That seems to be their strategy. And it's a good one.

 

[ucciolord1]

Yeah, well Microsoft is lame.
Gah! I forgot! I use Windows!

 

[Doug]

The crackdown was aimed at owners of modded consoles, which can be used to play pirated games (as well as homebrew apps and imported games)

1% Homebrews and Imports, 99% pirates.

Also, if there where homebrewer's banned, they are idiots for not reading the Terms and Conditions and thinking 'Oh, I best not plug it into XBox live'.

 

[ItsAPaul]

I thought they just banned the idiots that registered MW2 early... guess they like catching idiots so they're not going to directly say that.

 

[Captain Blackout]

Note to self: Buy an Xbox, steal another one, pirate the fuck out of everything I can, and tell MS what I'm up to so they know their idiot tactics are nothing more than goat-fucking.

 

[chronobreak]

Note to self: Buy an Xbox, steal another one, pirate the fuck out of everything I can, and tell MS what I'm up to so they know their idiot tactics are nothing more than goat-fucking.

Hilarious. It's people like you who are the reason Microsoft does this, you know. Do you really think you're going to solve the problem of pirating with... more pirating? Take that, Microsoft.

Fighting fire with water is much more effective than fighting it with fire. And make sure to link a screencap or something when you tell Microsoft you are stealing from them.

 

[Captain Blackout]

Note to self: Buy an Xbox, steal another one, pirate the fuck out of everything I can, and tell MS what I'm up to so they know their idiot tactics are nothing more than goat-fucking.

Hilarious. It's people like you who are the reason Microsoft does this, you know. Do you really think you're going to solve the problem of pirating with... more pirating? Take that, Microsoft.

Fighting fire with water is much more effective than fighting it with fire. And make sure to link a screencap or something when you tell Microsoft you are stealing from them.

Fuck Microsoft!

1. Bill "I'm a thief" Gates started Microsoft with acts of technological piracy! Little hard to take the moral high ground against piracy and be "unapologetic" under such circumstances.

2. I have a really hard time telling if this is honestly just against piracy. I'm certain someone at MS (as mentioned before in this thread) said "Keep the accounts, there's money to made here."

3. When will MS and EA and whichever other morons are out there learn: This sort of tactic doesn't stop piracy! It pisses pirates, both moral and amoral, off. Pissed off pirates don't stop pirating, they go pirate more!

4. I'm nowhere near as stupid as Mr. "fuck all pirates, I want to be the last one!" Gates so I won't be screencapping and letting myself get caught.

5. Before you bring out the retard tired argument "Well of course Bill is smarter than you, he has more money." I'm calling BS: More money means you are more focused and/or ruthless in your pursuit of money, not smarter.

At some point, MS is going to have to learn how to deal with piracy effectively. Think Akido or Tai Chi instead of nukes. The force MS puts out into the world is the force that will come back at them. If MS doesn't want piracy in the world they should bloody well quit finding new ways to feed it.

 

[chronobreak]

Fuck Microsoft!

1. Bill "I'm a thief" Gates started Microsoft with acts of technological piracy! Little hard to take the moral high ground against piracy and be "unapologetic" under such circumstances.

2. I have a really hard time telling if this is honestly just against piracy. I'm certain someone at MS (as mentioned before in this thread) said "Keep the accounts, there's money to made here."

3. When will MS and EA and whichever other morons are out there learn: This sort of tactic doesn't stop piracy! It pisses pirates, both moral and amoral, off. Pissed off pirates don't stop pirating, they go pirate more!

4. I'm nowhere near as stupid as Mr. "fuck all pirates, I want to be the last one!" Gates so I won't be screencapping and letting myself get caught.

5. Before you bring out the retard tired argument "Well of course Bill is smarter than you, he has more money." I'm calling BS: More money means you are more focused and/or ruthless in your pursuit of money, not smarter.

At some point, MS is going to have to learn how to deal with piracy effectively. Think Akido or Tai Chi instead of nukes. The force MS puts out into the world is the force that will come back at them. If MS doesn't want piracy in the world they should bloody well quit finding new ways to feed it.

I'm glad you numbered your points, because I hate making multiple quote boxes.

1. Not hard at all to take the high ground. Regardless of anything that happened in the past, this is his and his shareholders' company. He can do with it as he wishes.

2. So what. That's the point of a company. Making money.

3. Sure stopped all those people from going on LIVE for a while, didn't it? Maybe there are more effective ways to combat piracy, but they have to do something, and honestly, it's always going to piss off a pirate when they get punished for breaking the law. They aren't happy unless they circumvent the system and don't pay for a product.

4. Good idea.

5. I don't care how smart either of you are or think you are. It's his business, not yours. You have no right to dictate how he runs it. So what if he was ruthless? That's business.

Your whole argument is they deserve it? They brought this on themselves? It doesn't work like that. You aren't a vigilante, you're just a person who doesn't want to pay for anything using a very thin excuse and terrible reasoning. You want to make a difference in this world with your actions? Go volunteer your time at a PIP shelter or a food pantry. I understand you feel they are going at this the wrong way, but that isn't your choice to make.