Leaving this here, for multiple reasons. Mainly the Uno reference.
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Microsoft Unbans, Re-bans Banned Xbox Live Accounts
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Sorry, but banned for swastika emblems in BLops? As a supporter of free speech, I find this pretty astonishing - what's the problem with people expressing their beliefs? More to the point, it's not just used for Nazism - Buddhists and others use it as well, not to mention it's a fucking cool symbol
Okay, it was sort of an over-arching statement about how screwed up the online infrastructure for Microsoft and Sony is (as evidenced by past and present occurrances).midpipps said:
Your mileage may vary (if I can borrow that trope-ish term) on how bad or severe the companies have been dealing in, how well the sites work, and who's right on what account - but the bottom line is that we have these massively-complex things which are AT LEAST not thought of as 100% in the right or in working order, and when something goes wrong, it happens BIG TIME.
The bottom line is, I don't believe either company should have their sites the way they are, or do the things that they do in connection with it. Because it leads to exactly the shit we deal with now and it'll get far worse before it gets better. Maybe it was all needlessly complex...
Yeah, but then you look at the CoD Blops crowd and realise: No, you're right. They are just using it to be pricks.InfiniteSingularity said:
Argue for free speech all you want, but 99% of the time, these people are using it as our culture now sees it: a symbol of the Nazi party.
Stephen Tolouse had a blog about why, but it's all in here aswell:InfiniteSingularity said:
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/41916/MS-defends-COD-swastika-ban
He basically sums it up as the human race first and foremost assocciates it with Nazi's, and xbox live isn't the place to properly explain to people how they're are mistaken. Espacially when the people in question are puttiing it in a white circle on a red background.
Stephen Tolouse:
"You know the type I mean. They've read an article that's contrarian to some position widely held, or they've found some obscure fact that contradicts common interpretation.
"Some of them claim to have known it as innate fact, others claim it to be widespread common knowledge taught to every single person in elementary school. Of course, usually neither is true at all. Most of them are just contrarians. They would never dare to wear a swastika openly, but they love to argue about how the world has 'misunderstood' this symbol.
"Under some religions, the specific design of the Nazi swastika is certainly not unique to the German Nazi Party. In some cases, it can be interpreted to mean unity depending on how it is oriented. But somehow the prosecution of an entire world war in the 20th century co-opted that symbol for western civilizations into a symbol of evil and hatred.
"Let's be clear: no educated human on the planet looks at the swastika symbol on a video game service in "the year we make contact" and says "oh, that symbol has nothing at all in any way to do with global genocide of an entire race and, even if it did, one should totally and reasonably ignore that because it's a symbol that was stolen or coop-ted from religions.
"The Xbox Live profile and in game content you create is accessible by everyone. You do not have the context inside of it to explain your long winded contrarian view that your pithy text that violates the Terms of Use or Code of Conduct is actually intended to change people's minds about a commonly held understanding.
"It's not political correctness, it's fundamental respect. If you think the swastika symbol should be re-evaluated by societies all over the Earth, I think that's great. Your Xbox Live profile or in game logo, which doesn't have the context to explain your goal, is not the right place to do that."
One at a time, they don't bother checking the semen and stool, since anyone who poops in a box is probably dedicated enough (If they don't pass) to break into it anyway.Tulks said:
