Microsoft's Harrison: We Are Winning The Games Message

[Flaery]

Harrison claims Microsoft has learned from its mistakes - or, as Microsoft would prefer to think of it, taken on feedback that indicated it was too far ahead of the curve - and changed its plans accordingly.

It's that sort of denial that really pisses me off and turns me away from the Xbox.

I can't really see the XBox worming its way back into my heart until well into this upcoming generation. PS4 is too similar without as much bullshit and Nintendo has the exclusives I love; because of this, I don't think the XBox can ever properly justify its existence to me.

 

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

I am. I'm anticipating playing it.

Do you plan on playing it on a console or PC?

I can't really see the XBox worming its way back into my heart until well into this upcoming generation. PS4 is too similar without as much bullshit and Nintendo has the exclusives I love; because of this, I don't think the XBox can ever properly justify its existence to me.

Sony acknowledges the reality of the situation. Consoles and games are expensive, gamers are getting pissed because of all the bullshit that's coming from the industry. So instead of pissing them off even more they decided to create something that we actually want, and give it to us for a reasonable price. Everything from architecture to every marketing decision was made with one idea in mind. And that idea is that consoles are a risky business and they can't afford to fuck it up. On the other hand, Microsoft started out in complete denial. It's like they're completely oblivious to the facts of the sate of gaming industry and console market today. They will fail the "console war". They will have to be in an alternate fuckin' reality to beat Sony this generation. They'll be lucky enough to break even with Xbox One.

 

[Vigormortis]

Do you plan on playing it on a console or PC?

It depends, in a way. Let me explain.

I have no plans to ever purchase an Xbox One. Likewise, I have no real intention on renewing my Xbox Live Gold for my Xbox 360. This leaves me with just playing it on PC.

However, a quick caveat on that:

While I don't have an issue with Origin, in principle, I dread what might happen with Titanfall being exclusive to the platform and being published by EA.

Namely: what potential other "things" EA may have Respawn tack onto the front end of the game. For example, Battlefield 4 launching from a web browser or Blizzard essentially having Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 require a constant internet connection.

So long as nothing like the above ends up becoming a hurdle on the front-end of the game, and should there be no ridiculous DLC practices in place, I will happily purchase Titanfall on Origin.

That is, of course, if the game turns out as good as is being promised...

 

[Something Amyss]

They are betting a LOT on Titanfall, aren't they?

To be fair, it seems to have drawn a lot of people in.

 

[Robert Marrs]

I'm glad Titanfall will also be released for PC so I don't have to deal with that MS BS. However, it is also a EA Origin game... meh, maybe I'll pick it still up, reimported keys will be around 50% cheaper anyways and that way I can wait for the reviews. Hyped games have a tendency to not be as great as everyone imagines.

Honestly I have had almost zero problems with Origin. The EULA is pretty despicable and I have heard of people being banned for saying anything negative about ea and banned for forums infractions which also causes you to lose all games but I just avoid those situations. Battlelog is a pain sometimes though so hopefully titanfall wont be using it.

OT: Microsoft needs to just stop talking. I'm glad they changed their position on the new consoles but just once I would like to hear a company actually admit they really screwed up. The statement was a bold faced lie and anyone who keeps up with gaming news knows this is true. Almost nothing is known about most of their exclusives. Ryse looks like a tech demo that got rushed into a game, Titanfall will be on pc, Dead Rising 3 has a fanbase but I'm personally not a fan. They are not winning the games message at all.

 

[Lunar Templar]

They are betting a LOT on Titanfall, aren't they?

remember the last Xbone thread? where they say Indie games wont be coming until 2014?

I said the same thing. It seems whenever Microsoft says something, "Titanfall looks amazing, guys." is usually followed right behind it.


I dont normally wish a game to become a massive failure, but to me it will be hilarious if Titanfall sucks so bad that gamers want a full refund for it.

oh oh, better idea The XBone version of Titanfall is broken to the point of the last Steel Battalion game cause of 'console specific reasons' but the other versions work fine. Thet'd be hilarious.

anyway, good to see they're still delusional as ever

 

[Atmos Duality]

Harrison claims Microsoft has learned from its mistakes - or, as Microsoft would prefer to think of it, taken on feedback that indicated it was too far ahead of the curve - and changed its plans accordingly.

So Microsoft still refuses to admit that they were full of shit.

PR Rule #1: Never admit you were wrong if there is even the tiniest shred of subjective angle to spin.
Find it insulting how they think people are going to blindly buy into their claim of "We thought too far ahead! It's still in the future though!", because it's a round-about way of calling so many of their potential customers "backwards".

Though, upon reflection, I realized that I do know the sort of person who would blindly buy into that.
And it's depressingly common.

One of the things that isn't so good is the limited console release; first it was only going to be out in 21 countries, and now it's limiting itself to 13 [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/126850-Xbox-One-Will-Launch-In-Just-13-Countries]. The other 8 markets will get a chance to buy the Xbox One sometime in 2014, while the rest of the world might get a look in at some point.

Yeah why Microsoft would limit themselves to so few markets is beyond me. Esp. since their number 1 priority is making money. How are they going to maximize their profits in so few markets.

Part of it are local laws I wager, but an even bigger part was probably:
It makes sense to target your most reliable sectors first to recoup that cash more quickly.

This also means fewer initial returned systems for when the inevitable string of first gen hardware failures sets in.
(RRoD joke is too obvious here and I've got nothin' else. Damn.)

I admit, my more snarky side thinks it went more along the lines of:
Plan A: See if the stupid rich sheep in our primary markets blindly buy into our raw deal so it can set the standard for all others to follow.

Will the games library be what pushes the Xbox One into first place? Possibly, but some of the flashier titles - Titanfall and Project Spark, to name two - don't have confirmed release dates yet, despite occupying a sizeable chunk of Microsoft's E3 event [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124808-Microsoft-Xbox-One-at-E3-2013-Impressions-Before-After]. Come Christmas, we shall see.

Since most gamers are the shallow instant gratification types it probably will. Well ok maybe not most, but enough for Microsoft.

I will stun absolutely nobody and say that the Xbone will "sell out" over Christmas.
Just like how the WiiU sold out last Christmas...and has been floundering ever since.

To be fair, this is the Xbone.
The original "pre-180" Xbone was a platform made for AAA Publishers first and Gamers second.
I doubt any of Microsoft's AAA Publisher butt-buddies pulled support post-180 because the PS4 promised much of the same.
Apart from Sony, their only real alternative is PC. And we all know how much they love PC.

 

[F-I-D-O]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Titanfall was announced to come out out on PC as well as Xbox One.
So, no Microsoft, you don't have an exclusive award winning game. You have a shared game, made by a third party, that people will enjoy playing on systems other than yours. Yes, there will be some who play it on Xbox One, but it annoys me that Titanfall's being billed as an exclusive Xbox One title, when it's less of an exclusive than Halo was for the original Xbox (anyone else remember the Gearbox port?).

 

[Jamous]

Winning? Really? Not from where I'm bloody standing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Titanfall was announced to come out out on PC as well as Xbox One.
So, no Microsoft, you don't have an exclusive award winning game. You have a shared game, made by a third party, that people will enjoy playing on systems other than yours. Yes, there will be some who play it on Xbox One, but it annoys me that Titanfall's being billed as an exclusive Xbox One title, when it's less of an exclusive than Halo was for the original Xbox (anyone else remember the Gearbox port?).

The port of Halo? That was fucking awesome.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Or, you know, the fact that Titanfall got so many E3 awards could be due to the fact that it was a really boring E3 and they didn't have much to chose from. Careful what you crow about.

 

[ryessknight]

Titanfall? Fucking Titanfall has them all giddy? Titanfall is going to be ass just like there shit escuse for a console. Just give up microsoft. You lost , get over it and go build a real console with better games. Oh wait, sony beat you to it.

 

[Arawn]

Rule #1: Never admit you're your mistake
Rule #2: Blame someone else
Rule #3: Change the subject

I might have flubbed the order, but that's basically how most things go when you're wrong. Any lawyer will tell you not to admit to anything. And I don't think anyone would acknowledge any mistakes/wrong doing. Not good for business. In any case MS is trying win back those that were pushed away. Titanfall has promise. It could be the Halo of Xbox One. With enough fans people might forget the path the system started on. Or maybe they'll ignore the past that PS3 struggled with and forge their own.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Why does 'being ahead of the curve' make Microsoft sound like the Joker from the Dark Knight?

Microsoft: "I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve." Fuck and the joker had green hair too. Coincidence, I THINK NOT!

 

[crimsonshrouds]

Microsoft makes an announcement and i get to enjoy a fun thread to read.

Captcha: Gold record? Something the Xbone will not be.

 

[Reyold]

I find this very appropriate. Yeah, after everything that's happened, I find it hard to take anything MS says seriously. Something tells me they're gonna get a massive reality check when this thing hits the market. At least, that what my optimistic side tells me.

 

[white_wolf]

I think the only thing MS has learned from all this is to not put bad policy out so obviously next time, they'll just sneak it in the small print. We'll see over the holiday rush who comes out ahead.

 

[Abomination]

ah yes.
http://riotandfrolic.typepad.com/.a/6a015431fc4e55970c017ee5e35b15970d-800wi

so far it only has 2 games holding hostage i care about. and one of them is dead rising 3.

Son of a *****.

That didn't just get me to chuckle under my breath - it got a full on guffaw out of me.

My co-workers are asking if I'm alright.

It's a shame this site doesn't have an upvote function.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Harrison claims Microsoft has learned from its mistakes - or, as Microsoft would prefer to think of it, taken on feedback that indicated it was too far ahead of the curve - and changed its plans accordingly.

So Microsoft still refuses to admit that they were full of shit.

PR Rule #1: Never admit you were wrong if there is even the tiniest shred of subjective angle to spin.
Find it insulting how they think people are going to blindly buy into their claim of "We thought too far ahead! It's still in the future though!", because it's a round-about way of calling so many of their potential customers "backwards".

Though, upon reflection, I realized that I do know the sort of person who would blindly buy into that.
And it's depressingly common.

A future where we're constantly screwed up the ass by corporations with the kinda of shit Microsoft wanted to pull with the XBox Done prior to the 180 is not a future I want to be a part of.

One of the things that isn't so good is the limited console release; first it was only going to be out in 21 countries, and now it's limiting itself to 13 [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/126850-Xbox-One-Will-Launch-In-Just-13-Countries]. The other 8 markets will get a chance to buy the Xbox One sometime in 2014, while the rest of the world might get a look in at some point.

Yeah why Microsoft would limit themselves to so few markets is beyond me. Esp. since their number 1 priority is making money. How are they going to maximize their profits in so few markets.

Part of it are local laws I wager, but an even bigger part was probably:
It makes sense to target your most reliable sectors first to recoup that cash more quickly.

This also means fewer initial returned systems for when the inevitable string of first gen hardware failures sets in.
(RRoD joke is too obvious here and I've got nothin' else. Damn.)

I admit, my more snarky side thinks it went more along the lines of:
Plan A: See if the stupid rich sheep in our primary markets blindly buy into our raw deal so it can set the standard for all others to follow.

Still doesn't make much sense to me.

Will the games library be what pushes the Xbox One into first place? Possibly, but some of the flashier titles - Titanfall and Project Spark, to name two - don't have confirmed release dates yet, despite occupying a sizeable chunk of Microsoft's E3 event [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124808-Microsoft-Xbox-One-at-E3-2013-Impressions-Before-After]. Come Christmas, we shall see.

Since most gamers are the shallow instant gratification types it probably will. Well ok maybe not most, but enough for Microsoft.

I will stun absolutely nobody and say that the Xbone will "sell out" over Christmas.
Just like how the WiiU sold out last Christmas...and has been floundering ever since.

To be fair, this is the Xbone.
The original "pre-180" Xbone was a platform made for AAA Publishers first and Gamers second.
I doubt any of Microsoft's AAA Publisher butt-buddies pulled support post-180 because the PS4 promised much of the same.
Apart from Sony, their only real alternative is PC. And we all know how much they love PC.

Appropriate choice of words, "sell out" 'cause I imagine a depressingly large number of gamers would sell their souls if it meant they got to play their flashy shallow dull grey games.

 

[Cruickshank]

So they think they were ahead of the curve? Where was that curve leading them? It wasn't upwards I can guarantee you that.

It's not necessarily a good thing to be the first in a free fall you know.....

At least sony had a nice soft landing for the ps4.