Microsoft's Harrison: We Are Winning The Games Message

[Atmos Duality]

Harrison claims Microsoft has learned from its mistakes - or, as Microsoft would prefer to think of it, taken on feedback that indicated it was too far ahead of the curve - and changed its plans accordingly.

So Microsoft still refuses to admit that they were full of shit.

PR Rule #1: Never admit you were wrong if there is even the tiniest shred of subjective angle to spin.
Find it insulting how they think people are going to blindly buy into their claim of "We thought too far ahead! It's still in the future though!", because it's a round-about way of calling so many of their potential customers "backwards".

Though, upon reflection, I realized that I do know the sort of person who would blindly buy into that.
And it's depressingly common.

One of the things that isn't so good is the limited console release; first it was only going to be out in 21 countries, and now it's limiting itself to 13 [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/126850-Xbox-One-Will-Launch-In-Just-13-Countries]. The other 8 markets will get a chance to buy the Xbox One sometime in 2014, while the rest of the world might get a look in at some point.

Yeah why Microsoft would limit themselves to so few markets is beyond me. Esp. since their number 1 priority is making money. How are they going to maximize their profits in so few markets.

Part of it are local laws I wager, but an even bigger part was probably:
It makes sense to target your most reliable sectors first to recoup that cash more quickly.

This also means fewer initial returned systems for when the inevitable string of first gen hardware failures sets in.
(RRoD joke is too obvious here and I've got nothin' else. Damn.)

I admit, my more snarky side thinks it went more along the lines of:
Plan A: See if the stupid rich sheep in our primary markets blindly buy into our raw deal so it can set the standard for all others to follow.

Will the games library be what pushes the Xbox One into first place? Possibly, but some of the flashier titles - Titanfall and Project Spark, to name two - don't have confirmed release dates yet, despite occupying a sizeable chunk of Microsoft's E3 event [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124808-Microsoft-Xbox-One-at-E3-2013-Impressions-Before-After]. Come Christmas, we shall see.

Since most gamers are the shallow instant gratification types it probably will. Well ok maybe not most, but enough for Microsoft.

I will stun absolutely nobody and say that the Xbone will "sell out" over Christmas.
Just like how the WiiU sold out last Christmas...and has been floundering ever since.

To be fair, this is the Xbone.
The original "pre-180" Xbone was a platform made for AAA Publishers first and Gamers second.
I doubt any of Microsoft's AAA Publisher butt-buddies pulled support post-180 because the PS4 promised much of the same.
Apart from Sony, their only real alternative is PC. And we all know how much they love PC.

 

[F-I-D-O]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Titanfall was announced to come out out on PC as well as Xbox One.
So, no Microsoft, you don't have an exclusive award winning game. You have a shared game, made by a third party, that people will enjoy playing on systems other than yours. Yes, there will be some who play it on Xbox One, but it annoys me that Titanfall's being billed as an exclusive Xbox One title, when it's less of an exclusive than Halo was for the original Xbox (anyone else remember the Gearbox port?).

 

[Jamous]

Winning? Really? Not from where I'm bloody standing.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe Titanfall was announced to come out out on PC as well as Xbox One.
So, no Microsoft, you don't have an exclusive award winning game. You have a shared game, made by a third party, that people will enjoy playing on systems other than yours. Yes, there will be some who play it on Xbox One, but it annoys me that Titanfall's being billed as an exclusive Xbox One title, when it's less of an exclusive than Halo was for the original Xbox (anyone else remember the Gearbox port?).

The port of Halo? That was fucking awesome.

 

[Shamanic Rhythm]

Or, you know, the fact that Titanfall got so many E3 awards could be due to the fact that it was a really boring E3 and they didn't have much to chose from. Careful what you crow about.

 

[ryessknight]

Titanfall? Fucking Titanfall has them all giddy? Titanfall is going to be ass just like there shit escuse for a console. Just give up microsoft. You lost , get over it and go build a real console with better games. Oh wait, sony beat you to it.

 

[Arawn]

Rule #1: Never admit you're your mistake
Rule #2: Blame someone else
Rule #3: Change the subject

I might have flubbed the order, but that's basically how most things go when you're wrong. Any lawyer will tell you not to admit to anything. And I don't think anyone would acknowledge any mistakes/wrong doing. Not good for business. In any case MS is trying win back those that were pushed away. Titanfall has promise. It could be the Halo of Xbox One. With enough fans people might forget the path the system started on. Or maybe they'll ignore the past that PS3 struggled with and forge their own.

 

[MrHide-Patten]

Why does 'being ahead of the curve' make Microsoft sound like the Joker from the Dark Knight?

Microsoft: "I'm not a monster, I'm just ahead of the curve." Fuck and the joker had green hair too. Coincidence, I THINK NOT!

 

[crimsonshrouds]

Microsoft makes an announcement and i get to enjoy a fun thread to read.

Captcha: Gold record? Something the Xbone will not be.

 

[Reyold]

I find this very appropriate. Yeah, after everything that's happened, I find it hard to take anything MS says seriously. Something tells me they're gonna get a massive reality check when this thing hits the market. At least, that what my optimistic side tells me.

 

[white_wolf]

I think the only thing MS has learned from all this is to not put bad policy out so obviously next time, they'll just sneak it in the small print. We'll see over the holiday rush who comes out ahead.

 

[Abomination]

ah yes.
http://riotandfrolic.typepad.com/.a/6a015431fc4e55970c017ee5e35b15970d-800wi

so far it only has 2 games holding hostage i care about. and one of them is dead rising 3.

Son of a *****.

That didn't just get me to chuckle under my breath - it got a full on guffaw out of me.

My co-workers are asking if I'm alright.

It's a shame this site doesn't have an upvote function.

 

[Canadamus Prime]

Harrison claims Microsoft has learned from its mistakes - or, as Microsoft would prefer to think of it, taken on feedback that indicated it was too far ahead of the curve - and changed its plans accordingly.

So Microsoft still refuses to admit that they were full of shit.

PR Rule #1: Never admit you were wrong if there is even the tiniest shred of subjective angle to spin.
Find it insulting how they think people are going to blindly buy into their claim of "We thought too far ahead! It's still in the future though!", because it's a round-about way of calling so many of their potential customers "backwards".

Though, upon reflection, I realized that I do know the sort of person who would blindly buy into that.
And it's depressingly common.

A future where we're constantly screwed up the ass by corporations with the kinda of shit Microsoft wanted to pull with the XBox Done prior to the 180 is not a future I want to be a part of.

One of the things that isn't so good is the limited console release; first it was only going to be out in 21 countries, and now it's limiting itself to 13 [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/126850-Xbox-One-Will-Launch-In-Just-13-Countries]. The other 8 markets will get a chance to buy the Xbox One sometime in 2014, while the rest of the world might get a look in at some point.

Yeah why Microsoft would limit themselves to so few markets is beyond me. Esp. since their number 1 priority is making money. How are they going to maximize their profits in so few markets.

Part of it are local laws I wager, but an even bigger part was probably:
It makes sense to target your most reliable sectors first to recoup that cash more quickly.

This also means fewer initial returned systems for when the inevitable string of first gen hardware failures sets in.
(RRoD joke is too obvious here and I've got nothin' else. Damn.)

I admit, my more snarky side thinks it went more along the lines of:
Plan A: See if the stupid rich sheep in our primary markets blindly buy into our raw deal so it can set the standard for all others to follow.

Still doesn't make much sense to me.

Will the games library be what pushes the Xbox One into first place? Possibly, but some of the flashier titles - Titanfall and Project Spark, to name two - don't have confirmed release dates yet, despite occupying a sizeable chunk of Microsoft's E3 event [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/124808-Microsoft-Xbox-One-at-E3-2013-Impressions-Before-After]. Come Christmas, we shall see.

Since most gamers are the shallow instant gratification types it probably will. Well ok maybe not most, but enough for Microsoft.

I will stun absolutely nobody and say that the Xbone will "sell out" over Christmas.
Just like how the WiiU sold out last Christmas...and has been floundering ever since.

To be fair, this is the Xbone.
The original "pre-180" Xbone was a platform made for AAA Publishers first and Gamers second.
I doubt any of Microsoft's AAA Publisher butt-buddies pulled support post-180 because the PS4 promised much of the same.
Apart from Sony, their only real alternative is PC. And we all know how much they love PC.

Appropriate choice of words, "sell out" 'cause I imagine a depressingly large number of gamers would sell their souls if it meant they got to play their flashy shallow dull grey games.

 

[Cruickshank]

So they think they were ahead of the curve? Where was that curve leading them? It wasn't upwards I can guarantee you that.

It's not necessarily a good thing to be the first in a free fall you know.....

At least sony had a nice soft landing for the ps4.

 

[irok]

Harrison claims Microsoft has learned from its mistakes - or, as Microsoft would prefer to think of it, taken on feedback that indicated it was too far ahead of the curve - and changed its plans accordingly. "We think that's a good thing,"

Meanwhile, at Valve.

And that Microsoft, is how you do Sharing, no 24 Bullshit check-ins, no fucking over the entire userbase for a single negligible 'advantage,' just a nice simple opt-in. There was literally no reason why you couldn't done this with digital games.

Wait, Titanfall doesn't have a release date yet? What games are available on launch?

Captcha: dalek asylum (this geeky captcha almost makes up for all the advertising ones)

What? gg valve wins, and when the steam console comes rolling around I think Microsoft will definitely not be "winning" also ya , that's pretty good, I've mostly gotten American? products I've never heard of :/

 

[Strazdas]

They are betting so much on titanfall that i almost want it to fail misserably just to teach them a lesson.

Looks like they are winnign the games massage but loosing the gamers themselves.

 

[tdylan]

They are betting so much on titanfall that i almost want it to fail misserably just to teach them a lesson.

Looks like they are winnign the games massage but loosing the gamers themselves.

I don't know that it will fail, but I'm pretty sure it's coming to PS4 and MS has simply paid for it to be a timed exclusive to the XBONE (and 360, and PC), and then paid a bit more for Respawn to not say that it will be released later on the PS4. This is EA we're talking about. Does anyone honestly see them making a debut title for their Respawn studio exclusive to a single major console? The console with the smallest install base? These are the guys that release Madden titles annually, turned Dead Space into Gears of war, and then microtransactioned the hell out of it. EA's all about the dollar. No way did they go through all that trouble to grab the infinity ward guys from activision, pump god knows how much capital into their new studio and this new IP, and then are gonna sit back and say "yeah, release it on XBONE only. It's cool."

Does anyone remember Hydrophobia? How it came out on XBLA first, and then a much better version was released for PS3 after the XBLA fans pretty much paid for the right to playtest it? Bet that happens here.

 

[Infernal Lawyer]

Microsoft... If the future is going to have consoles and other devices that shut down because arbitrary restrictions aren't satisfied, then that's just another reason to hold back. Seriously, stop being so fucking arrogant and just admit you tried to implement DRM that's been proven not to work on single games onto your fucking CONSOLE.

And Titanfall isn't even an Xbone exclusive. Why oh why are you pretending otherwise...

 

[Racecarlock]

Dear Microsoft. Mechassault 2 came out years ago. That is all.

 

[Strazdas]

They are betting so much on titanfall that i almost want it to fail misserably just to teach them a lesson.

Looks like they are winnign the games massage but loosing the gamers themselves.

I don't know that it will fail, but I'm pretty sure it's coming to PS4 and MS has simply paid for it to be a timed exclusive to the XBONE (and 360, and PC), and then paid a bit more for Respawn to not say that it will be released later on the PS4. This is EA we're talking about. Does anyone honestly see them making a debut title for their Respawn studio exclusive to a single major console? The console with the smallest install base? These are the guys that release Madden titles annually, turned Dead Space into Gears of war, and then microtransactioned the hell out of it. EA's all about the dollar. No way did they go through all that trouble to grab the infinity ward guys from activision, pump god knows how much capital into their new studio and this new IP, and then are gonna sit back and say "yeah, release it on XBONE only. It's cool."

Does anyone remember Hydrophobia? How it came out on XBLA first, and then a much better version was released for PS3 after the XBLA fans pretty much paid for the right to playtest it? Bet that happens here.

that really depends on how much microsoft paid them.
EA could support Xbone out of principle due to its restrictive nature. they wanted the whole always online thing to suceed and could have banked on it a bit too. Also the way EA eats studios they may have created a studio for this single purpose and going to bancrupt it if it fails anyway.
Beside, its on PC so that going to hang around anyway.

Capcha: How interesting
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