Microsoft's New Cross-Platform Initiative Could Link Xbox Live And PSN

[Something Amyss]

I'm not giving them credit for it

Which is fortunate, but all I said is they were taking credit.

Well, see, the thing is...that's a huge myth. Why? Cause the one thing people ALWAYS forget, the human element. Until the worst mouse/keyboard player can always beat the best controller player, then its not actually an issue. I know I personally am better with a controller.

Anecdotes don't make something a myth. In general, people have an advantage with K+M, and it's easily demonstrable. Controller users are also getting all sorts of assists. Hell, I actually exploit aim assist in quite a few games (and I'm not alone, this is what quickscoping is based on, though I don't quickscope). The worst player doesn't have to beat the best for there to be a decided advantage.

I say this as a PC gamer, so correct me if I'm wrong, but don't consoles usually use aim assist?

Not just consoles. I can plug my 360 controller into my PC and boot up COD and benefit from Aim Assist. One of those free weekends, my friend and I booted up COD using PS4 controllers. I got a 1.2 K/D by the end of the weekend and he had almost 2.5. I know 1.2 isn't like "OMG, you're amazing!" but it's satisfactory for someone who is at best a casual FPS player who only really plays them because her friends are all filthy FPS junkies. But the aim assist in these games is really creaking obvious, even on PC.

It can actually be a bit confusing to encounter a game that doesn't use aim assist on a controller. It's still possible to play, but not exactly the same.

yea this is an amazing idea.......xbox vs ps4 players every night........suddenly the "console wars" have become a reality!

Only if they tell you what platform someone's on. Otherwise, you'll end up with the embarassing faux pas of calling someone a filthy Xbot when they're really a PC geek.

 

[Saelune]

Even if there are advantages over controller....I don't care. I'm at a much larger disadvantage without it, and there are tons of other things that can affect individual people's ability. Some that may not be so apparent until consistent cross-platforming. I'm better with controllers, as Ive been using them for literally most of my life. Some people can say the same for keyboard, and some people just are good or bad at games regardless.

Plus not everyone is going for "MLG" levels anyways. If the best at these games happen to always be keyboard users, fine, but there will be plenty of people who do great with controllers too. Humans aren't robots, and many people are skilled enough to overcome many perceived disadvantages.

 

[AstaresPanda]

Seems alot like Games for Windows Live all over again, i was on XP like most ppl when Vista poped up and was not going to upgrade....even if shadowrun game was cross platform lol. NOTHING TO DO WITH SHADOWRUN. And im not about to upgrade to Windows 10 to be able to play cross platform on the inferior windows store/console versions of games.

I hope im wrong but..... we shall seeeee

 

[MCerberus]

Well if there isn't some crazy catch this could be wonderful for multiplayer titles, here's hoping Sony will play ball.

Considering Sony has been pushing for cross playing and its been microsoft not wanting to do it til now Id say they most likely will.

And then we have to get the devs onboard.

WGA, the devs for the console version of world of tanks has been loudly saying that they've already got the in-office servers playing PS4 vs Xbox and the reason they can't roll it out to everyone is politics.

 

[elvor0]

Even if there are advantages over controller....I don't care. I'm at a much larger disadvantage without it, and there are tons of other things that can affect individual people's ability. Some that may not be so apparent until consistent cross-platforming. I'm better with controllers, as Ive been using them for literally most of my life. Some people can say the same for keyboard, and some people just are good or bad at games regardless.

Noone is saying you should use anything other than your preferred device. People are saying this will have issues because not everyone feels the same as you. We already saw the result when meshing FPS with Shadowrun in 2007 and it wasn't pretty. Not everyone is okay with being faced with a disadvantage in PvP that they can never overcome.

 

[Saelune]

Even if there are advantages over controller....I don't care. I'm at a much larger disadvantage without it, and there are tons of other things that can affect individual people's ability. Some that may not be so apparent until consistent cross-platforming. I'm better with controllers, as Ive been using them for literally most of my life. Some people can say the same for keyboard, and some people just are good or bad at games regardless.

Noone is saying you should use anything other than your preferred device. People are saying this will have issues because not everyone feels the same as you. We already saw the result when meshing FPS with Shadowrun in 2007 and it wasn't pretty. Not everyone is okay with being faced with a disadvantage in PvP that they can never overcome.

We cant fix any issues if we don't do it. The possibility of issues isn't a good reason to just never try. So what if Shadowrun (which I never played) failed? Learn from it and fix it. Not like there isn't issues PC gaming already faces with people having different levels of computer power. Its a cop out I am tired of hearing.

 

[Ocelano]

and none of this means anything to me cause no matter who I'm playing with I'll still be playing from Australia therefore being dropped randomly every 5 goddamn minutes