Microsoft's Penello: Xbox One Is Built For The Future
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Well, the video makes a lot of claims, but I can sum it up:
"We built the Xbone for the FUTURE...but it's really only built to cash in on current trends."
"The Cloud". Penello glossed over this, and with good reason: Cloud computing is INCREDIBLY IMPRACTICAL for actually boosting performance for real-time games. Why? Because the places where games could most benefit from extra processing power ("scalable" parameters) are also those that generate the most raw data (big files being sent over the tubes) and are the mostly timely (need to be processed quickly).
Everything else described about "The Cloud" was just Steam. Cloud saves, downloadable games, yadda yadda yadda.
Kinect 2.0 isn't going to improve gaming. At best, it's a cute gimmick control system that wows people who haven't seen it before, and that's it. Enjoy your dance games, because that's the best anyone will ever develop for it, based on what's been made for Kinect to date.
Apart from that, the features for "SmartGlass" amount to nothing more than a glorified social media hub.
It's Facebook for Xbone, only with a limited version of FRAPS built in.
"The future of today, tomorrow!"
"We built the Xbone for the FUTURE...but it's really only built to cash in on current trends."
"The Cloud". Penello glossed over this, and with good reason: Cloud computing is INCREDIBLY IMPRACTICAL for actually boosting performance for real-time games. Why? Because the places where games could most benefit from extra processing power ("scalable" parameters) are also those that generate the most raw data (big files being sent over the tubes) and are the mostly timely (need to be processed quickly).
Everything else described about "The Cloud" was just Steam. Cloud saves, downloadable games, yadda yadda yadda.
Kinect 2.0 isn't going to improve gaming. At best, it's a cute gimmick control system that wows people who haven't seen it before, and that's it. Enjoy your dance games, because that's the best anyone will ever develop for it, based on what's been made for Kinect to date.
Apart from that, the features for "SmartGlass" amount to nothing more than a glorified social media hub.
It's Facebook for Xbone, only with a limited version of FRAPS built in.
"The future of today, tomorrow!"
After watching the video, in it's entirety, this is essentially what I heard:
"The Cloud! Facebook 24/7! The Cloud! Tablet/phone based content pinning! The Cloud! Even more powerful and accurate cameras that watch everything you're doing while playing! The Cloud! The Kinect makes sure you're playing your games in the Microsoft approved manner! The Cloud! Skype integration! (because consoles clearly never had VOIP capabilities before) The Cloud! A whopping 30 seconds of video recording! The Cloud! Controller swapping! The Cloud! Games calling your cellphone while you play, jacking up your phone bill! The Cloud! Dashboard navigation with your smart phone! (because who the fuck uses a controller anymore?) The Cloud!"
So, in short, a lot of buzzwords, "future tech" that's been around for years, even more omnipresent social media, and more emphasis on meta-gaming instead of core gaming.
Yep. That's exactly what I needed to hear to convince me to purchase your overpriced, ugly, glossy brick, Microsoft. I'mma rush out to Gamestop and preorder one right now.
"The Cloud! Facebook 24/7! The Cloud! Tablet/phone based content pinning! The Cloud! Even more powerful and accurate cameras that watch everything you're doing while playing! The Cloud! The Kinect makes sure you're playing your games in the Microsoft approved manner! The Cloud! Skype integration! (because consoles clearly never had VOIP capabilities before) The Cloud! A whopping 30 seconds of video recording! The Cloud! Controller swapping! The Cloud! Games calling your cellphone while you play, jacking up your phone bill! The Cloud! Dashboard navigation with your smart phone! (because who the fuck uses a controller anymore?) The Cloud!"
So, in short, a lot of buzzwords, "future tech" that's been around for years, even more omnipresent social media, and more emphasis on meta-gaming instead of core gaming.
Yep. That's exactly what I needed to hear to convince me to purchase your overpriced, ugly, glossy brick, Microsoft. I'mma rush out to Gamestop and preorder one right now.
Oh look it's Microsoft again spewing their PR bullshit trying to convince us that the Xbone is a next gen console. It's more like a current gen in terms of specs.
When you think about it..if you would buy parts for a PC for 500$ you would buy a more powerful rig than what their console can offer.
When you think about it..if you would buy parts for a PC for 500$ you would buy a more powerful rig than what their console can offer.
It feels like such a long time ago. Everything game related this generation hasn't impressed me in the slightest.GamerMage said:
Sometimes I wonder if the future 'thinking' was actually in the past where the focus would mainly be on making great entertainment through many many different genres, and they could actually be niche or really strange and still be able to make a living of it.
Dystopian is my choice of words right now as well as long as things are forced.
Right, you know enough to look at the GHz and memory size. You are wrong though a $500 will perform nothing like the Xbone, at the moment there are too many API layers and inefficiencies in bandwidth between components in PCs to get that kind of performance from matching hardware.DarkhoIlow said:
PCs only outperform consoles through brute force, by massively exceeding them in specs and having the raw horsepower to get the extra software performance. Consoles operate closer to the metal and have simpler interfaces by sharing graphics and system memory instead of having graphics memory and system memory which causes bandwidth bottlenecks, again this is only solved by brute force and ensuring your hardware has the largest available potential bandwidth.
PC horsepower = cash
Just a graphics card to match next gen hardware will set you back around half the cost of the Xbone and two-thirds the cost of a PS4, factor in a CPU which is about the same and then at least the price of an XBone on a case, PSU, RAM, Mainboard and the little bits and pieces needed for a nice rig. This does not include peripherals or monitors which is a huge chunk of cash for someone setting up a PC for the first time.
Me? I am bypassing all of that and going for overkill and getting a GTX 780 and ensuring I will be ready for anything the next gen can throw at me.
I love the future! It's like the present but more futuristic!! Just look at these future toasters:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/futuristic-toasters_n_1974758.html
Check out the 'toast trebuchet'. Or the 'scan toaster'. It burns pictures! On your toast! I can't wait for the future, man. It's gonna be so awesome. More convenience! More connectedness! Just imagine if you could connect your XBox One to your future toaster. With just the command 'XBox Toast', it could send a signal to the toaster to print an image of the speaker on a slice of toast. And then..then the toast would then be launched right through the air, guided by the magic of Kinect, directly to the waiting player's mouth. Wow! That's the future man. XBox Toast. In the future! Soon!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/18/futuristic-toasters_n_1974758.html
Check out the 'toast trebuchet'. Or the 'scan toaster'. It burns pictures! On your toast! I can't wait for the future, man. It's gonna be so awesome. More convenience! More connectedness! Just imagine if you could connect your XBox One to your future toaster. With just the command 'XBox Toast', it could send a signal to the toaster to print an image of the speaker on a slice of toast. And then..then the toast would then be launched right through the air, guided by the magic of Kinect, directly to the waiting player's mouth. Wow! That's the future man. XBox Toast. In the future! Soon!
Man their PR is such a train wreck. I think sony did it write. They just showed us the games they would have on their console, how pretty it looked, how it would play on their consoles, and then just shut the hell up. Now that MS backtracked on the bullshit don mattrick pulled like a moron I dont understand why they just dont shut up and let their console and games do the talking for them when they come out.
Kinect will always see you, all the time...
Nope, no thanks, I don't want to be part of that shitty "future".
Nope, no thanks, I don't want to be part of that shitty "future".