Microsoft's Phil Spencer Not Sure if Minecraft Sequel Makes Sense
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I am slightly confused. Minecraft is not really the sort of game that would benefit from sequels. Should it not just always have new stuff until they run out of ideas? A sequel would have to be something so great that the normal system can't handle it...and Minecraft doesn't exactly have like a high graphics demand...
Hilarious to the point of invoking fury? I'm going with that.Oly J said:
OT: That's a change. I wonder when they'll consider the community's needs "met".
Well, there isn't really anything you can improve to the basic concept of minecraft, so a sequel really doesn't make any sense.
Minecraft seems more like the kind of game that's better off with more polishing and mods than with sequels.
Minecraft seems more like the kind of game that's better off with more polishing and mods than with sequels.
Minecraft is less a game than it is a platform, so a 'sequel' isn't going to make as much sense as an engine overhaul. What Microsoft needs to do before trying to unpack that monstrous notion is push for a proper modding API on the PC while the console catches up to current. Then figure out a good way for console users to access the Minecraft modding community, at least the bits that aren't tearing each other's throats out, so they can /at minimum/ play with mods.
It isn't going to be an easy ball of yarn to unwind, but I think it can be done and might even be worth it.
Not that the console community isn't already doing some fairly cool stuff on their own:
It isn't going to be an easy ball of yarn to unwind, but I think it can be done and might even be worth it.
Not that the console community isn't already doing some fairly cool stuff on their own:
I'm going to voice an unpopular opinion and say a Minecraft 2 would actually be a good thing. The code for Minecraft is a complete mess, and it desperately needs to be rewritten from the ground up. This would take far too much work to be an update, and wouldn't be worth the manhours to release it for free. Minecraft 2 would mean that they can actually make money from starting from scratch and making everything run way smoother.
You can read this thread from the Optifine creator to see some of what I'm talking about:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum...-hd-a4-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and#c43757
You can read this thread from the Optifine creator to see some of what I'm talking about:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forum...-hd-a4-fps-boost-hd-textures-aa-af-and#c43757
On a mechanics standpoint: No, a Minecraft sequel doesn't really make much sense, especially considering that there isn't really anything that could be added into a sequel that cannot already be added into the original game via official support or via mods. On a business standpoint however, a sequel absolutely makes sense: Microsoft just spent $2.5bil on Mojang and the Minecraft licence, and they have got to get their money back somehow, and I doubt that trickle sales for Minecraft or Scrolls is going to make up for that cost. Something is going to be done with Mojang and Minecraft, because otherwise they just wasted a lot of money for nothing, it is just what that is that is going to be a little weird.
I was hoping for something like Minecraft Universe - some kind of neutral hub world where you can trade and interact with other players and you can't build or destroy obviously.
Then everyone in the game can get their own certain slice of MC world, similar to how they do in MMO's when they have housing areas, and they can choose biomes/setting and certain biomes and bigger areas would be in-game upgrades (knowing Microsoft they'd be paid addons) or whatever. It would definitely work best on pc.
It seems to me the only thing Microsoft can really improve on is the social/online aspects
Then everyone in the game can get their own certain slice of MC world, similar to how they do in MMO's when they have housing areas, and they can choose biomes/setting and certain biomes and bigger areas would be in-game upgrades (knowing Microsoft they'd be paid addons) or whatever. It would definitely work best on pc.
It seems to me the only thing Microsoft can really improve on is the social/online aspects
I have to agree. Minecraft in not-Java would be something I could play again. I quit because of constant unloaded chunks (world holes) and bloody item-id conflicts. It doesn't seem like they were able to add a modders api like they thought, either.LittleMikey said:
There are a handful of developers active today who know how to make a moddable game (there were more 10 years ago). The majority of moddable games have god awful mod APIs, compared to which a Java game without a mod API is better simply because Java is so easy to decompile.
And this is why Notch should have sold the IP to Valve rather than Microsoft.
The results are showing already.
The results are showing already.
Well, in my opinion i think that minecraft doesnt really need a sequel. Mainly because it always has been a game with no story or end, that gets updates, and with trillions of mods that put in the game from wizards to sci-fi tech stuff...
But i do think that Microsoft will use the IP to make cash, so a sequel its a really posible thing that could happen. Or maybe Microsoft will only use for merchandise, or stuff like the live-action movie that (in my opinion) wont be that good.
But i do think that Microsoft will use the IP to make cash, so a sequel its a really posible thing that could happen. Or maybe Microsoft will only use for merchandise, or stuff like the live-action movie that (in my opinion) wont be that good.
After Windows 8 and XBOne, I don't think pissing people off is anything they actually care about. They are going to need to do something to justify that $2 billion purchase. Maybe it won't be cutting off mod support, but I won't be shocked if it is.Olas said:
Minecraft 2; with 32 bit themed graphics from the start instead of the stock 16 bit themed graphics? You can argue that there already exists mods that mimic the 32 bit graphics, but so much more could be done to have far more detailed models and textures alike.
Perhaps even blocks that are not quite so cubic. Blocks that show the impact of your fists and tools. A world that remains a sandbox, but a lot more pre-existing things going for it, like different communities waging war against each other, or trying to build better tomorrow against the creepers and other monsters.
(I mean, take it a little bit more towards the single player Elder Scrolls direction. No main quest to finish, just the player, and the mess he or she creates.)
Perhaps even blocks that are not quite so cubic. Blocks that show the impact of your fists and tools. A world that remains a sandbox, but a lot more pre-existing things going for it, like different communities waging war against each other, or trying to build better tomorrow against the creepers and other monsters.
(I mean, take it a little bit more towards the single player Elder Scrolls direction. No main quest to finish, just the player, and the mess he or she creates.)