Say what you will about Microsoft, but there's a reason the company isn't bankrupt.
They know how to make a profit.
They know how to make a profit.
Military and Microsoft Butt Heads Over Training
- Thread starter Austin MacKenzie
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Hah this ^, I'd say screw it, if an American console doesn't want to lend a hand then take your business overseas just like everyone else.samsonguy920 said:
Beware soldiers with Wii-Remotes and Playstation Eye Toys
Wow, somebody has balls at microsoft to tell the army "Go buy it at retail price."
Actually, does anybody else think it's a bad idea for the Military to use 360's?
I mean, just wait, once Faux News get's a hold of the story it's "SATANIC CONSOLES ARE TEACHING YOUR KIDS HOW TO KILL, ALSO GAYS AND TERRORIST'S!!!"
Actually, does anybody else think it's a bad idea for the Military to use 360's?
I mean, just wait, once Faux News get's a hold of the story it's "SATANIC CONSOLES ARE TEACHING YOUR KIDS HOW TO KILL, ALSO GAYS AND TERRORIST'S!!!"
Where's the profit in being a buddy of the US military (or any other military in a democratic, non army-junta controlled country)? The US Military would most likely buy several thousands Xboxes and from there probably offer a contract to someone willing to develop a training game for the Xbox360 to their specs. Even if we imagine that Microsoft gets a cut in on that action (I can't say if they would, since I am unsure of exactly how the whole console-royalty deal works) they are still effectively only getting royalties on a few thousand copies of one game to the same amount of consoles.JaredXE said:
No matter which way you turn that, it is a huge loss for Microsoft. Besides, there is less prestige in saying "The army runs our console" as opposed to "We developed the game the US Army trains with" (which is the card that Bohemia pulled for example), the latter being the kind of PR a software developer can use to sell their future shooters.
It seems to be more an economic thing than reputation. Consoles are fairly universally a net loss for the producer, or at the very best it breaks even. If they sell the military a few thousand 360s, then the military goes and pays someone else to develop/publish/produce the game for it, they're just losing a bunch of money. It makes sense to stay away from the deal.uppitycracker said:
No, more like the military buys a few thousand consoles and half of them are defective within a couple of years. Individual consumers are one thing, but a single body with a million dollars worth of RROD is something they wouldn't want to deal with.Crimsane said:
The real reason for this is obvious.
Hideo Kojima is worried about gaming technology being used by the military for sinister purposes. Ergo, Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming to XBox as long as Microsoft refuse to sell 360s directly to the military.
Hideo Kojima is worried about gaming technology being used by the military for sinister purposes. Ergo, Metal Gear Solid 4 is coming to XBox as long as Microsoft refuse to sell 360s directly to the military.
If the consoles are going to be made specifically for training, can't the US military just scrounge up enough cash to design their own console, made specifically for training? I mean, they'd probably have access to the exact same technology as Microsoft, maybe even the more advanced stuff, the same materials, and the same sort of hardware/software designers to actually put the thing together, and the end result won't even need to cater for the vast majority of gamers wanting all sorts of special features in their consoles. Why do they need XBoxes?Austin MacKenzie said:
Am I the only one who sees recruits slacking off and playing Halo during training?
Also, consoles are sold at a loss. The more consoles Microsoft sells to the Army, the more money they LOSE. Do you jump at the chance to LOSE money? Now, if the Army were to sign a contract that all its software will come from Microsoft and that they'll even pay for the licence, that might work.
Beyond that, I suggest they send out their people to stores all across the USA and buy the consoles like everyone else...
Also, consoles are sold at a loss. The more consoles Microsoft sells to the Army, the more money they LOSE. Do you jump at the chance to LOSE money? Now, if the Army were to sign a contract that all its software will come from Microsoft and that they'll even pay for the licence, that might work.
Beyond that, I suggest they send out their people to stores all across the USA and buy the consoles like everyone else...
Actually in this case it seems to be violence leading people to games. And if it's going to be a loss, fair enough. But couldn't the army just offer extra to fill in that loss? It's probably still going to be much cheaper.Sev said:
Patriotism is overrated, go Microsoft!
I don't get the millitary, willing to drop money for guns and ammo but if it comes to something important like stuff for training people to use guns and ammo?
Eh...
I don't get the millitary, willing to drop money for guns and ammo but if it comes to something important like stuff for training people to use guns and ammo?
Eh...
You honestly think you know more about how to make a profit than Microsoft?JaredXE said:
Okay...
